QF - Canterbury v Auckland
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Well done Cantab. Deserving winners.
Not a high quality game.
Would be nice if next year Auckland picked some players from the best club and got some better coaches.
I live in hope.
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Who do we play next week?
@ACT-Crusader said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
Who do we play next week?
If Wellington wins, the 3rd ranked semi-finalist.
If Wellington loses, the 4th ranked semi-finalist.No, not quite right. It all depends on who the highest ranked, 2nd-highest ranked, 3rd-highest ranked and lowest ranked winning quarter-finalists are.
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@ACT-Crusader said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
Who do we play next week?
If Wellington wins, the 3rd ranked semi-finalist.
If Wellington loses, the 4th ranked semi-finalist.No, not quite right. It all depends on who the highest ranked, 2nd-highest ranked, 3rd-highest ranked and lowest ranked winning quarter-finalists are.
@Stargazer it’s all based on seeds. The highest seeded team plays the lowest seeded team until the final. So if Naki and Welly lose, Canterbury will become the highest seed.
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@Stargazer it’s all based on seeds. The highest seeded team plays the lowest seeded team until the final. So if Naki and Welly lose, Canterbury will become the highest seed.
@Canes4life It's exactly how I wrote it in my last sentence. I've actually looked it up in the Competition Regulation Handbook.
Edit: If Wellington win, they are the highest ranked winning quarter-finalist; if Taranaki wins as well, they are the 2nd-ranked winning quarter-finalst, but if - say - Taranaki loses, then Canterbury become the 2nd-ranked winning quarter-finalist. etc etc
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@Canes4life It's exactly how I wrote it in my last sentence. I've actually looked it up in the Competition Regulation Handbook.
Edit: If Wellington win, they are the highest ranked winning quarter-finalist; if Taranaki wins as well, they are the 2nd-ranked winning quarter-finalst, but if - say - Taranaki loses, then Canterbury become the 2nd-ranked winning quarter-finalist. etc etc
@Stargazer you hadn’t updated your comment when I posted but yes, correct.
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I think you’ll find a few of the crap players were on multi year contracts. Should be some deadwood moving on now
Worth noting some of the best players this year were the inexperienced tight 5, Clark, XTH etc.
@Duluth said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
I think you’ll find a few of the crap players were on multi year contracts. Should be some deadwood moving on now
Worth noting some of the best players this year were the inexperienced tight 5, Clark, XTH etc.
Been impressed with how he’s developed. From what I’ve seen this season he’s looked really solid. Has good athleticism around the park and at the lineout.
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@KiwiMurph said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
Thought Grace played pretty well
Ran the ball with a bit of purpose (and didn’t break)
@ACT-Crusader said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
@KiwiMurph said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
Thought Grace played pretty well
Ran the ball with a bit of purpose (and didn’t break)
I have a feeling he did break. Just prior to going off the medics were looking at his shoulder, then a few moments later he had a short run down the sideline and looked weird in the way he took the contact with his shoulder. He wasn't seen on camera again.
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@ACT-Crusader said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
@KiwiMurph said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
Thought Grace played pretty well
Ran the ball with a bit of purpose (and didn’t break)
I have a feeling he did break. Just prior to going off the medics were looking at his shoulder, then a few moments later he had a short run down the sideline and looked weird in the way he took the contact with his shoulder. He wasn't seen on camera again.
@Crazy-Horse said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
@ACT-Crusader said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
@KiwiMurph said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
Thought Grace played pretty well
Ran the ball with a bit of purpose (and didn’t break)
I have a feeling he did break. Just prior to going off the medics were looking at his shoulder, then a few moments later he had a short run down the sideline and looked weird in the way he took the contact with his shoulder. He wasn't seen on camera again.
I said the same thing to me Dad, I’m sure he was hurt.
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A sad indictment on NZ rugby that two of the biggest provinces in the country finished the game with a 12 playing at 10. Scary the lack of depth.
In good news, I thought Burke has really improved this season, seems the most composed 10 in the comp. Hopefully the injury isn't as bad as it looked.
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A sad indictment on NZ rugby that two of the biggest provinces in the country finished the game with a 12 playing at 10. Scary the lack of depth.
In good news, I thought Burke has really improved this season, seems the most composed 10 in the comp. Hopefully the injury isn't as bad as it looked.
@TJ said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
A sad indictment on NZ rugby that two of the biggest provinces in the country finished the game with a 12 playing at 10. Scary the lack of depth.
Maybe that was a selection decision as Harford played at 1st 5 the week before. Poihipi played 1st 5 a lot at 1st XV level, and even had a game there for the Chiefs this year (vs Force).
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@TJ said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
A sad indictment on NZ rugby that two of the biggest provinces in the country finished the game with a 12 playing at 10. Scary the lack of depth.
Maybe that was a selection decision as Harford played at 1st 5 the week before. Poihipi played 1st 5 a lot at 1st XV level, and even had a game there for the Chiefs this year (vs Force).
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@TJ said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
A sad indictment on NZ rugby that two of the biggest provinces in the country finished the game with a 12 playing at 10. Scary the lack of depth.
Maybe that was a selection decision as Harford played at 1st 5 the week before. Poihipi played 1st 5 a lot at 1st XV level, and even had a game there for the Chiefs this year (vs Force).
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@Bovidae it probably was a selection decision, but that suggests there are no 10s they trust enough for a Quarterfinal. Poihipi was good and has filled in there before, but he isn't going to be a long term 10.
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@Bovidae it probably was a selection decision, but that suggests there are no 10s they trust enough for a Quarterfinal. Poihipi was good and has filled in there before, but he isn't going to be a long term 10.
@TJ said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
it probably was a selection decision, but that suggests there are no 10s they trust enough for a Quarterfinal.
Plummer was injured. I would've started Evans in the midfield and had McKenzie on the bench (with Tele'a or XTH). McKenzie is good enough.
So it was just a selection risk they took (or perhaps McKenzie was injured too? There's been no injury list published)
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Did Harford play against Auckland? Fegus Burke got an injury, Saders will definetly be after a new 10 next year.
They have signed Rivez Reihana,But they will need another First Five as cover for Burke by the looks of that injury.
Harford didn't play against Auckland they dropped him out of the 23 after he had a shocker against Waikato the previous week.
I doubt the Crusaders will sign him he has not had a great NPC when he has been given game time. -
@TJ said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
it probably was a selection decision, but that suggests there are no 10s they trust enough for a Quarterfinal.
Plummer was injured. I would've started Evans in the midfield and had McKenzie on the bench (with Tele'a or XTH). McKenzie is good enough.
So it was just a selection risk they took (or perhaps McKenzie was injured too? There's been no injury list published)
@Duluth it just strikes me as wild that the 3rd best 10 in Auckland and the 3rd best 10 in Canterbury (incl Mounga) are players who predominantly play midfield and most likely won't play 10 regularly at a higher level.
I have been thinking for a while that NZ is extremely poor in the development of 10s, would love to know if the talent just isn't coming through or if there just isn't trust in young 10s, they so often seem to get pushed to fullback to develop.
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@Duluth it just strikes me as wild that the 3rd best 10 in Auckland and the 3rd best 10 in Canterbury (incl Mounga) are players who predominantly play midfield and most likely won't play 10 regularly at a higher level.
I have been thinking for a while that NZ is extremely poor in the development of 10s, would love to know if the talent just isn't coming through or if there just isn't trust in young 10s, they so often seem to get pushed to fullback to develop.
@TJ said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:
@Duluth it just strikes me as wild that the 3rd best 10 in Auckland and the 3rd best 10 in Canterbury (incl Mounga) are players who predominantly play midfield and most likely won't play 10 regularly at a higher level.
I have been thinking for a while that NZ is extremely poor in the development of 10s, would love to know if the talent just isn't coming through or if there just isn't trust in young 10s, they so often seem to get pushed to fullback to develop.
I think this is a tad overreaction. It goes in cycles. We’ve had periods where there were more 1st 5s than you could poke a stick at. Then there have been lean periods.
Given how the game is these days and the use of bench players, versatility is more important so I don’t think the Canterbury selections were that risky really.
