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RWC QF: England v Fiji

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  • M Machpants

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

    Fiji had stage fright last night and played withing themselves and as individuals

    They won't make the same mistake again

    If they can keep their discipline and keep 15 on the park then they have every opportunity to make their first RWC SF

    This would be helped by Borthwick selecting Farrell and Ford in the backline

    It doesn't work

    I'm going for Fiji by more than 9

    You're hoping for 😉

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    @Machpants said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

    Fiji had stage fright last night and played withing themselves and as individuals

    They won't make the same mistake again

    If they can keep their discipline and keep 15 on the park then they have every opportunity to make their first RWC SF

    This would be helped by Borthwick selecting Farrell and Ford in the backline

    It doesn't work

    I'm going for Fiji by more than 9

    You're hoping for 😉

    Taking the performances to date and who England struggle against

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      @Machpants said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

      @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

      Fiji had stage fright last night and played withing themselves and as individuals

      They won't make the same mistake again

      If they can keep their discipline and keep 15 on the park then they have every opportunity to make their first RWC SF

      This would be helped by Borthwick selecting Farrell and Ford in the backline

      It doesn't work

      I'm going for Fiji by more than 9

      You're hoping for 😉

      Taking the performances to date and who England struggle against

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      @MiketheSnow Did you watch Fiji's last 2 games? They are on a downward, not upward curve.

      England can dust off the Argentina game tactics and win in multiples of 3.

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      • CatograndeC Catogrande

        @nostrildamus

        I found myself thinking earlier on this morning that even if the unthinkable happened and we won the thing would this make me accept what Borthwick has been doing and I honestly felt that no, it wouldn't. I was then wondering if you Kiwis felt the same re Foster?

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        @Catogrande said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

        @nostrildamus

        I found myself thinking earlier on this morning that even if the unthinkable happened and we won the thing would this make me accept what Borthwick has been doing and I honestly felt that no, it wouldn't. I was then wondering if you Kiwis felt the same re Foster?

        Same.
        I'd feel smug on the outside and dirty on the inside.

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        • S stodders

          @MiketheSnow Did you watch Fiji's last 2 games? They are on a downward, not upward curve.

          England can dust off the Argentina game tactics and win in multiples of 3.

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          @stodders said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

          @MiketheSnow Did you watch Fiji's last 2 games? They are on a downward, not upward curve.

          England can dust off the Argentina game tactics and win in multiples of 3.

          I did

          Did you watch England's play in the Pool stages?

          These sides are evenly matched

          Both had their best performance early

          Both have been inaccurate and stuttering but have ground out a win and/or a losing BP to advance

          The big difference between England and Fiji is Fiji knows how to score tries

          They can't spill as much ball and butcher that many chances again

          They'll be the underdogs in this fight and that will suit them

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            @stodders said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

            @MiketheSnow Did you watch Fiji's last 2 games? They are on a downward, not upward curve.

            England can dust off the Argentina game tactics and win in multiples of 3.

            I did

            Did you watch England's play in the Pool stages?

            These sides are evenly matched

            Both had their best performance early

            Both have been inaccurate and stuttering but have ground out a win and/or a losing BP to advance

            The big difference between England and Fiji is Fiji knows how to score tries

            They can't spill as much ball and butcher that many chances again

            They'll be the underdogs in this fight and that will suit them

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            @MiketheSnow Fiji looked completely unstructured last night. England have shown (albeit in patches) that they can isolate ball carriers and win turnover penalties. That is all they need to do if Fiji play anything like they did last night.

            And they won't have to win by scoring tries

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              Same reason I am tipping Wales to win their game - England are decent at this knock-out stuff.

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                God knows. Would be nice to pick players in the right positions. Get rid of the Ford, Farrell, Tuilagi axis. Pick a quick winger. We won’t though.

                If we turn out the same team as this weekend, then Fiji will cause havoc in the outside channels

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                • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                  Same reason I am tipping Wales to win their game - England are decent at this knock-out stuff.

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                  @Billy-Webb Wales have a decent coach though. England? Jury is out.

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                  • S stodders

                    @Billy-Webb Wales have a decent coach though. England? Jury is out.

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                    @stodders said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

                    @Billy-Webb Wales have a decent coach though. England? Jury is out.

                    Jury is in

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      @NTA Did you watch the Samoa game?

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                      @Catogrande said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

                      @NTA Did you watch the Samoa game?

                      Now I have.

                      England didn't do much, but they did enough.

                      The question is whether Fiji will let them into the game the way Samoa did.

                      I counted three poor kicks from Sopoaga that probably had more effect than the disallowed try; important to note that the try was disallowed in the first half so England had plenty of time to recover. Who is to say they don't score 2 of their own before the break? Sliding doors.

                      I barely heard Ford's name in the commentary. Or Farrell's, either. TBH that first 20 minutes the Poms looked unhappy and a bit stunned, like they didn't know what to do.

                      If Fiji play like they did for the last 20 minutes against Wales, maybe they're a short, but they'll have to seriously lift their discipline.

                      England? Well if they forget they've got backs and just bosh-penalty-lineout-maul-penalty-lineout-bosh-try etc they should do it.

                      Worked since forever.

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                        Said it soon as Fiji beat England in the Warm Ups

                        Kick long, kick dead, compete at lineout

                        Take 3 points every time it's offered

                        Drubbing, and England won't have to get out of 3rd gear

                        Which is good because I don't think they have a 4th

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                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                          Said it soon as Fiji beat England in the Warm Ups

                          Kick long, kick dead, compete at lineout

                          Take 3 points every time it's offered

                          Drubbing, and England won't have to get out of 3rd gear

                          Which is good because I don't think they have a 4th

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                          @MiketheSnow

                          We have a third?

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                            @MiketheSnow

                            We have a third?

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                            @Catogrande said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

                            @MiketheSnow

                            We have a third?

                            You used it against Chile

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              @Catogrande said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

                              @MiketheSnow

                              We have a third?

                              You used it against Chile

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                              @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

                              @Catogrande said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

                              @MiketheSnow

                              We have a third?

                              You used it against Chile

                              OK so that's had though rather than have :anguished_face:

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                                Referee: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
                                Assistant Referee 1: Nic Berry (RA)
                                Assistant Referee 2: Pierre Brousset (FFR)
                                TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

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                                  Thank fuck we can't have Whitehouse

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                                    Does the pedantic nature of Raynal favour Fiji or England, I can't decide.

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                                    • frugbyF frugby

                                      Does the pedantic nature of Raynal favour Fiji or England, I can't decide.

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                                      @frugby said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

                                      Does the pedantic nature of Raynal favour Fiji or England, I can't decide.

                                      England

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                                        According to reports in the British press Ford won't be in the starting xv, Farrell at 10 & Smith at fullback

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          According to reports in the British press Ford won't be in the starting xv, Farrell at 10 & Smith at fullback

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                                          @Duluth said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

                                          According to reports in the British press Ford won't be in the starting xv, Farrell at 10 & Smith at fullback

                                          Can I change my vote?

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