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RWC QF: France v South Africa

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  • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

    @stodders said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

    South Africa 0/1 with BOK reffing them this World Cup 😬.

    Just kidding. He reffed the Ire/SA game well I thought. Kiwi ARs will be kept v busy policing two of the most egregiously offside defensive lines in world rugby 😂

    Interesting side fact for you Stodders - the Boks defensive line is aggressively quick and has been for a number of years. This caused some refereeing issues with the Boks feeling they were quite frequently being called offside incorrectly, something opposing fans latched on to - hence your view.
    To combat that, the Boks now train to explicitly line up 1 meter behind the offside line before shooting up in defence. And they have been clear in communicating this to the officials. Unsurprisingly, they are being pinged far less often for being offside these days.

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    @Billy-Webb Not disputing Boks aggressiveness or line speed when the ball is slow. I can also see at times they start 1m back (Siya in 100m blocks position).

    However when ruck speed is 2-3 secs for consecutive phases, any team, even the Boks brilliant rush defence, finds it hard to get their arses back on onside 😉

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      @Billy-Webb Not disputing Boks aggressiveness or line speed when the ball is slow. I can also see at times they start 1m back (Siya in 100m blocks position).

      However when ruck speed is 2-3 secs for consecutive phases, any team, even the Boks brilliant rush defence, finds it hard to get their arses back on onside 😉

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      @stodders said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

      @Billy-Webb Not disputing Boks aggressiveness or line speed when the ball is slow. I can also see at times they start 1m back (Siya in 100m blocks position).

      However when ruck speed is 2-3 secs for consecutive phases, any team, even the Boks brilliant rush defence, finds it hard to get their arses back on onside 😉

      Sure. Not claiming they are never offside, just that they are far less so than is the common belief.

      As for France - I can't really comment because I haven't paid enough attention. No doubt I will be doing so on Sunday and will repeatedly be telling my television set that the bloomin Frogs are camping offside :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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        @Rancid-Schnitzel if France win, England (assuming they beat Fiji) will not be stopping them. This isn't the pig headed English team from 2007 with over the hill greats playing a swansong.

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        @stodders said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

        @Rancid-Schnitzel if France win, England (assuming they beat Fiji) will not be stopping them. This isn't the pig headed English team from 2007 with over the hill greats playing a swansong.

        No, but they may field goal them into oblivion. It's France. Anything is possible.

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          @stodders said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

          @Billy-Webb Not disputing Boks aggressiveness or line speed when the ball is slow. I can also see at times they start 1m back (Siya in 100m blocks position).

          However when ruck speed is 2-3 secs for consecutive phases, any team, even the Boks brilliant rush defence, finds it hard to get their arses back on onside 😉

          Sure. Not claiming they are never offside, just that they are far less so than is the common belief.

          As for France - I can't really comment because I haven't paid enough attention. No doubt I will be doing so on Sunday and will repeatedly be telling my television set that the bloomin Frogs are camping offside :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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          @Billy-Webb France definitely don't give themselves a 1m gap 😉

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            France’s biggest vice is Exocet to the ruck

            Haven’t been pulled up on it yet

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              France’s biggest vice is Exocet to the ruck

              Haven’t been pulled up on it yet

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              @MiketheSnow yeah. Add it to the list:

              Hands on ground before going for ball (Aldritt excepted who is brilliant at pilfering), flopping on the tackler, lazy roll aways, side entries, encroaching offside.

              Thing is, they haven't even been subtle about it. They just haven't been pulled up for it. I'd hate for it to start happening on Sunday 😉

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                @MiketheSnow yeah. Add it to the list:

                Hands on ground before going for ball (Aldritt excepted who is brilliant at pilfering), flopping on the tackler, lazy roll aways, side entries, encroaching offside.

                Thing is, they haven't even been subtle about it. They just haven't been pulled up for it. I'd hate for it to start happening on Sunday 😉

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                @stodders said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

                Hands on ground before going for ball (Aldritt excepted who is brilliant at pilfering), flopping on the tackler, lazy roll aways, side entries, encroaching offside.

                Ireland thread is elsewhere.

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                  @stodders said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

                  Hands on ground before going for ball (Aldritt excepted who is brilliant at pilfering), flopping on the tackler, lazy roll aways, side entries, encroaching offside.

                  Ireland thread is elsewhere.

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                  @Bones Best teams do it I'm told. Advantage NH teams 🙂

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                    @Bones Best teams do it I'm told. Advantage NH teams 🙂

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                    @stodders it's gonna be a whitewash, all the SH teams are favourites at with betting agencies.

                    Unless you actually check of course.

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                      BOK Is an excellent ref and hasn’t got the credit on these boards at least for the last couple years... Very happy to have him rather than Raynal….

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                        BOK Is an excellent ref and hasn’t got the credit on these boards at least for the last couple years... Very happy to have him rather than Raynal….

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                        @mantissanet You were never getting Raynal 😉

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                          For the SA crew:

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                            @Rancid-Schnitzel If Fiji win their QF final with England, I hope they beat France as payback for the Paddy O'Brien refereeing tragedy that was the 1999 QF.

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                            @stodders said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

                            @Rancid-Schnitzel If Fiji win their QF final with England, I hope they beat France as payback for the Paddy O'Brien refereeing tragedy that was the 1999 QF.

                            (Pool match)

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                              SA are fucked now.

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                                SA are fucked now.

                                FB_IMG_1697185801843.jpg

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                                @Bones said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

                                SA are fucked now.

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                                More inaccurate memes, who the fuck is Adam Buchanan? Even google doesn't help.

                                Help me Bones One Colby, you're my only hope

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                                  @Bones said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

                                  SA are fucked now.

                                  FB_IMG_1697185801843.jpg

                                  More inaccurate memes, who the fuck is Adam Buchanan? Even google doesn't help.

                                  Help me Bones One Colby, you're my only hope

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                                  @Machpants I believe autocorrect fucked over the sky caption guy.

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                                    @Machpants I believe autocorrect fucked over the sky caption guy.

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                                    @Bones said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

                                    @Machpants I believe autocorrect fucked over the sky caption guy.

                                    That is fucking funny

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                                      @Bones said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

                                      SA are fucked now.

                                      FB_IMG_1697185801843.jpg

                                      More inaccurate memes, who the fuck is Adam Buchanan? Even google doesn't help.

                                      Help me Bones One Colby, you're my only hope

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                                      @Machpants said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

                                      Help me Bones One Colby, you're my only hope

                                      Their halfback. The cheek of it. You know him by name and product, he invented Lycra, Teflon, Kevlar, Freon, Lucite, Nylon...

                                      Choose #Truthiness #HalfArsedAccuracy

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                                        https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/news/877679/south-africa-announce-squad-to-play-france

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                                          This is good:

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