RWC SF: England v Springboks
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@OomPB I think they have. Getting this far for them is a great result with how limited they are. They're just not very good.
@African-Monkey I think England will be competitive for about 50 mins, then the SA grind game will beat them into submission and run away with it, especially once they utilise thier HIA bench
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We’re going to get smashed. Our forwards are no physical match for the Boks, in the loose or at the set piece. And our backs aren’t good enough to live off shit ball, which is all they’ll get. Mitchell is going to get squashed going backwards.
Actually dreading how embarrassing it might be.
@Dodge England beat the Boks last time they played in 2021. Marcus Smith was playing 10 though
Teams from that day:
England Team
1 Bevan Rodd
2 Jamie Blamire
3 Kyle Sinckler
4 Maro Itoje
5 Jonny Hill
6 Courtney Lawes (Captain)
7 Sam Underhill
8 Tom Curry
9 Ben Youngs
10 Marcus Smith
11 Jonny May
12 Manu Tuilagi
13 Henry Slade
14 Joe Marchant
15 Freddie StewardSouth Africa Team
1 Ox Nché
2 Bongi Mbonambi
3 Trevor Nyakane
4 Eben Etzebeth
5 Lood de Jager
6 Siya Kolisi (Captain)
7 Kwagga Smith
8 Duane Vermeulen
9 Cobus Reinach
10 Handré Pollard
11 Makazole Mapimpi
12 Damian de Allende
13 Lukhanyo Am
14 Jesse Kriel
15 Willie le Roux -
@Dodge England beat the Boks last time they played in 2021. Marcus Smith was playing 10 though
Teams from that day:
England Team
1 Bevan Rodd
2 Jamie Blamire
3 Kyle Sinckler
4 Maro Itoje
5 Jonny Hill
6 Courtney Lawes (Captain)
7 Sam Underhill
8 Tom Curry
9 Ben Youngs
10 Marcus Smith
11 Jonny May
12 Manu Tuilagi
13 Henry Slade
14 Joe Marchant
15 Freddie StewardSouth Africa Team
1 Ox Nché
2 Bongi Mbonambi
3 Trevor Nyakane
4 Eben Etzebeth
5 Lood de Jager
6 Siya Kolisi (Captain)
7 Kwagga Smith
8 Duane Vermeulen
9 Cobus Reinach
10 Handré Pollard
11 Makazole Mapimpi
12 Damian de Allende
13 Lukhanyo Am
14 Jesse Kriel
15 Willie le RouxAre you forgetting the November 2022 game when we got mullered?
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I think the English back row can live with the Boks. I'm not sure the tight 5 can. And i don't know where their points are coming from.
I think some are underselling the Fijian pack a little. They are really physical, and really hard at the breakdown, and the English beat them.
South Africa will have to work to win this, but it i think it's the weapons out wider that will make the difference. -
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
We’re going to get smashed. Our forwards are no physical match for the Boks, in the loose or at the set piece. And our backs aren’t good enough to live off shit ball, which is all they’ll get. Mitchell is going to get squashed going backwards.
Actually dreading how embarrassing it might be.
How I wish that your post becomes reality Dodge.
But I think you're being overly pessimistic.
England are starting to put it together when it counts.
Their self belief has grown considerably and player performance with it.
They have settled on a game plan which is well suited to knockout rugby.As a Bok fan, I am nervous for this game. I'm hoping we didn't play our "final" this Sunday against France.
There is a memory from a 2019 semi England played in that is haunting me....@Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
There is a memory from a 2019 semi England played in that is haunting me....
You'll be fine, I'm sure
RassieNienaber wont change the make up of the team to combat one aspect of England's play and then not combat that aspect at all during the game. -
I think the English back row can live with the Boks. I'm not sure the tight 5 can. And i don't know where their points are coming from.
I think some are underselling the Fijian pack a little. They are really physical, and really hard at the breakdown, and the English beat them.
South Africa will have to work to win this, but it i think it's the weapons out wider that will make the difference.@mariner4life said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
I think the English back row can live with the Boks. I'm not sure the tight 5 can. And i don't know where their points are coming from.
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Are you forgetting the November 2022 game when we got mullered?
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@Catogrande did England play last November? I thought they took the time off
Touche mon frère!
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Ben O’Keeffe (New Zealand) will take charge of England v South Africa in Saint-Denis on Saturday, 21 October (21:00 CET). He will be joined by assistant referees Andrew Brace (Ireland) and Paul Williams (New Zealand) and TMO Brendon Pickerill (New Zealand).
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Happy with B.O.K.
Despite all the flak he copped recently, I rate him as the best ref at the RWC.
I just hope all the criticism doesn't change the way he oversees a game normally. -
Happy with B.O.K.
Despite all the flak he copped recently, I rate him as the best ref at the RWC.
I just hope all the criticism doesn't change the way he oversees a game normally. -
@Billy-Webb He'll be watching the review of the France game and pinging the Boks all night at the breakdown
Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that. -
Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that.@Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
But to be honest, Iexpect him tohope he'll be better than that.FIFY
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Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that.@Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
But to be honest, Iexpect him tohope he won't be better than that.FIFY
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Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring
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Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring
And then it'll still be close
