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Wellington v Hawkes (RS)

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  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

    "Dropped", "plaster", "bad repair job".

    "How convenient" - Four Square.

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    @Donsteppa said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

    "Dropped", "plaster", "bad repair job".

    "How convenient" - Four Square.

    What is Copium?"

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      Just keeps giving, some great comments

      https://www.facebook.com/100058100049099/posts/pfbid02u57BVJuFwckY9PtYfCgaUwzZMsrQ7rzML6yYam6Dyvhmzxz7ropt4pMDkBRihVJwl/?mibextid=Nif5oz

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @Stargazer said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/300981548/the-man-who-fixes-the-ranfurly-shield-reckons-he-knows-what-the-white-powder-is

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        @mariner4life Hawkes Bay's not North Queensland, the Magpies or a visiting Val Holmes would struggle to source coke in Hastings or Napier.

        I've been trying for years without success. 😉

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          back in the day it was always said never that is never kiss the ranfurly shield

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            Was a but on stuff from Bernie McCahill, he said Peter Fatialofa looked After the shield when they had it...

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              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300981753/shattered-silverware-a-lineup-of-trophy-horror-shows-over-the-years

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                as i say, much more worried about what happened AFTER it was initially broken (photos, posted on social media, possible drugs etc) than the break itself, spirited off straight away and fixed as quick as possible would have been much better

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                  On Wednesday, NZR announced its findings from a 10-day investigation that included interviewing players and testing the shield for illicit substances.

                  The outcome supported HaWkes Bay Rugby Union chief executive Jay Campbell's claims that the damage was a "genuine accident" and not the result of excessive celebrations.

                  NZR also concluded there was insufficient evidence from both testing and the investigation to determine what the white substance shown on the shield was.

                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/10/rugby-investigation-fails-to-confirm-white-substance-on-ranfurly-shield-damage-confirmed-as-accidental.html


                  A test for illicit substances would have identified the powder as an illicit substance if there was any. I'm not surprised it wasn't. I guess there wasn't a test available to identify the substance as Plaster of Paris, which the maker of the Shield used to prevent the metal part of the Shield from denting.

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                    After suffering through innumerable episodes of Border Security etc the machines they use for testing for illicit substances are pretty thorough picking up presences even with the minutest of samples. Stands to reason that if there was any coke on it it would have been picked up without doubt. The fact that it was not detected must be a bitter blow to the knockers of the NPC Finalists. It is noticeable they have not proffered apologies for their incorrectly jumping to conclusions without the shred of actual evidence.

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                          That investigation was just a good old-fashioned white(powder)wash.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            On Wednesday, NZR announced its findings from a 10-day investigation that included interviewing players and testing the shield for illicit substances.

                            The outcome supported HaWkes Bay Rugby Union chief executive Jay Campbell's claims that the damage was a "genuine accident" and not the result of excessive celebrations.

                            NZR also concluded there was insufficient evidence from both testing and the investigation to determine what the white substance shown on the shield was.

                            https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/10/rugby-investigation-fails-to-confirm-white-substance-on-ranfurly-shield-damage-confirmed-as-accidental.html


                            A test for illicit substances would have identified the powder as an illicit substance if there was any. I'm not surprised it wasn't. I guess there wasn't a test available to identify the substance as Plaster of Paris, which the maker of the Shield used to prevent the metal part of the Shield from denting.

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                            @Stargazer said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

                            On Wednesday, NZR announced its findings from a 10-day investigation that included interviewing players and testing the shield for illicit substances.

                            The outcome supported HawKe'S Bay Rugby Union chief executive Jay Campbell's claims that the damage was a "genuine accident" and not the result of excessive celebrations.

                            NZR also concluded there was insufficient evidence from both testing and the investigation to determine what the white substance shown on the shield was.

                            https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/10/rugby-investigation-fails-to-confirm-white-substance-on-ranfurly-shield-damage-confirmed-as-accidental.html


                            A test for illicit substances would have identified the powder as an illicit substance if there was any. I'm not surprised it wasn't. I guess there wasn't a test available to identify the substance as Plaster of Paris, which the maker of the Shield used to prevent the metal part of the Shield from denting.

                            This is hardly painting anyone in a good light. In fact some might say the fact they left it in that state while NOT under the influence of anything makes them even bigger munters than initially thought.

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @Stargazer said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

                              On Wednesday, NZR announced its findings from a 10-day investigation that included interviewing players and testing the shield for illicit substances.

                              The outcome supported HawKe'S Bay Rugby Union chief executive Jay Campbell's claims that the damage was a "genuine accident" and not the result of excessive celebrations.

                              NZR also concluded there was insufficient evidence from both testing and the investigation to determine what the white substance shown on the shield was.

                              https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/10/rugby-investigation-fails-to-confirm-white-substance-on-ranfurly-shield-damage-confirmed-as-accidental.html


                              A test for illicit substances would have identified the powder as an illicit substance if there was any. I'm not surprised it wasn't. I guess there wasn't a test available to identify the substance as Plaster of Paris, which the maker of the Shield used to prevent the metal part of the Shield from denting.

                              This is hardly painting anyone in a good light. In fact some might say the fact they left it in that state while NOT under the influence of anything makes them even bigger munters than initially thought.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

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                                @Stargazer said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

                                @MN5

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                                We managed to keep the Shield in one piece

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                                  Hooroo
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                                  We are Hawke’s Bay, We’re not a bunch of fucking pricks, we promise!!!

                                  Just fucking own it

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                                    @Stargazer said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

                                    @MN5

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                                    We managed to keep the Shield in one piece

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                                    @MN5 said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

                                    @Stargazer said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

                                    @MN5

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                                    We managed to keep the Shield in one piece

                                    We broke it, you lost it. Guess neither of us is great at keeping it.

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                                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                                      We are Hawke’s Bay, We’re not a bunch of fucking pricks, we promise!!!

                                      Just fucking own it

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                                      @Hooroo Own what?

                                      They have admitted to breaking the Shield and regret that they've not treated the Shield with the care as they should have. That doesn't make them pricks and certainly not the whole team or province. They have not been more "disrespectful" to the Shield than other provinces. We all know the stories. It's just unlucky that the Shield broke, but is accidentally dropping the Shield worse than taking a bath with the Shield and causing the wood to rot (the final reason why they had to replace the original Shield with a new one)?

                                      This is, however, about the snorting of illicit substances off the Shield and it has now been proven that that hasn't happened. Why should they own something they haven't done?

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @Hooroo Own what?

                                        They have admitted to breaking the Shield and regret that they've not treated the Shield with the care as they should have. That doesn't make them pricks and certainly not the whole team or province. They have not been more "disrespectful" to the Shield than other provinces. We all know the stories. It's just unlucky that the Shield broke, but is accidentally dropping the Shield worse than taking a bath with the Shield and causing the wood to rot (the final reason why they had to replace the original Shield with a new one)?

                                        This is, however, about the snorting of illicit substances off the Shield and it has now been proven that that hasn't happened. Why should they own something they haven't done?

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                                        @Stargazer said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

                                        This is, however, about the snorting of illicit substances off the Shield and it has now been proven that that hasn't happened

                                        Just because an investigation wasn't able to substantiate that it happened is not the same thing as it being proven that it didn't happen.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Stargazer said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

                                          This is, however, about the snorting of illicit substances off the Shield and it has now been proven that that hasn't happened

                                          Just because an investigation wasn't able to substantiate that it happened is not the same thing as it being proven that it didn't happen.

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                                          @KiwiMurph If there had been illicit substances on the Shield, it would have been detected. Those tests are very sensitive and can pick up even small traces.

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