RWC SF: England v Springboks
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@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
even with a 4 man advantage and a hobbling winger we'd fuck up an overlap
A moot point as by the time the scrum half has waited for the requisite number of pods to get into position, the overlap has gone.
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England have a pack that can compete in grunt stakes. A decent stable of props, hookers and second rows.
The back row of Lawes, Curry and Earl is full of mongrel.
It is in the backline where concerns are raised, because even if the forwards get (near) parity in their battle with the Boks, what the hell are the backs going to do with it?
Our props arenāt that good. Genge a good rather than great scrummager but a mongrel around the park. Sinckler an ok scrummager, good hands and a good carrier. Marler is just vanilla these days outside of his after match comments. Cole can scrum but is glacial around the park. Rodd and Stewart are not up to the job in any department.
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Although I generally like the Springboks, I would enjoy the most if England hammer them like they did the ABs in 2019 and then go down in a whimper to the ABs in the final, again as in 2019 only it was to the Boks. If Argentina win the semi, I want the Boks to win and then win the final too. Argentina always with the soccer theatrics, don't like them
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āEngland's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.ā
From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.
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āEngland's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.ā
From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
āEngland's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.ā
From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.
I think he meant performances, not form. Cos he is like an overzealous actor out there, the fucking tool
Rodd and Stewart are not up to the job in any department.
He had a few banger songs, so that's a bit harsh
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āEngland's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.ā
From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.
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āEngland's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.ā
From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
āEngland's Ben Earl would be close to getting into a World XV based on his form at the Rugby World Cup, defence coach Kevin Sinfield has said.ā
From the Beeb. Earl has played v well. A standout for England. Tough competition though at no 8 in a World XV.
Give yourself an uppercut Kevin
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Gatland voices his opinion on Rassie and suggests what Borthwick should bring up with officials pre-match
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Stransky does a 2003 Fitzy
. Heād better hope they win. Humble pie is difficult to swallow 
The first part of the quote probably describes SAās gameplan quite well too.
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South African media bullish about Bok chances:
"Yet while the different routes they took to the semifinals may be Englandās big hope, meaning that less may have been taken out of them than has been taken out of the South Africans, that didnāt really look to be the case after their close win over Fiji in Marseille. They were playing lesser opponents and it was definitely a lower tier and inferior game to either of the Paris quarterfinals, but Owen Farrellās team had to work as hard for victory as the Boks did.
They also don't have the depth, no other team has, that the Boks have, and therefore don't have the leeway their opponents may have when it comes to ensuring or even creating freshness."
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Iād prefer to see England win this one. Itād be great for them to make the final after all the crap theyāve been through in the last 12 months or so.
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@sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Iād prefer to see England win this one. Itād be great for them to make the final after all the crap theyāve been through in the last 12 months or so.
Please elaborate
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@MN5 They took a lot of stick from sections of their own media after losses last autumn and in the Six Nations. They even got booed off by their own fans.
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Itās a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Donāt think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.
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Itās a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Donāt think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.
@Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Itās a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Donāt think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.
Typical French fluffybunnies
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Itās a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Donāt think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.
@Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Itās a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Donāt think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.
I hear a lot of England fans and London-based Saffas are heading to Paris this weekend.
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@MN5 They took a lot of stick from sections of their own media after losses last autumn and in the Six Nations. They even got booed off by their own fans.
@sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@MN5 They took a lot of stick from sections of their own media after losses last autumn and in the Six Nations. They even got booed off by their own fans.
What ? This has happened in England since the dawn of competitive sport and media covering it. Cry me a river and maybe watch the Beckham doco for some perspective.
Go South Africa !!!!
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Itās a real shame this game is not Fra vs Eng. Here in France the enthusiasm for the tournament (in a country where rugby is mainly followed in the SW) has faded right away. A NZ vs Fra final would have brought real rugby fervour. Donāt think either semifinal is going to sell out now either.
@Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Donāt think either semifinal is going to sell out now either
3 countries whose people are known for travelling and upping sticks to far flung countries, and a country just a train ride from London?
I'd be very surprised if a game as close to a friendly as you can get sells out in London when England isn't involved, I'd be pretty surprised if these games don't.
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@sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@MN5 They took a lot of stick from sections of their own media after losses last autumn and in the Six Nations. They even got booed off by their own fans.
What ? This has happened in England since the dawn of competitive sport and media covering it. Cry me a river and maybe watch the Beckham doco for some perspective.
Go South Africa !!!!
