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RWC SF: England v Springboks

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    I know no one gives a fufu but the two questions remain.

    1. What happened to the ABs over the last 4 years
    2. How did we end up with this WC draw
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      JB just got into my GOAT AB team at 12

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      • BonesB Bones

        @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        @Bones My reply was sort of tongue in cheek. But it does cut out any miscommunication between coach and player. The whispering into radios seems a bit redundant when time is of the essence and no way to get the player word easily.

        Ok I see, but pretty concerning he has no faith in his players to know what decisions to make on the field.

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        @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        @Bones My reply was sort of tongue in cheek. But it does cut out any miscommunication between coach and player. The whispering into radios seems a bit redundant when time is of the essence and no way to get the player word easily.

        Ok I see, but pretty concerning he has no faith in his players to know what decisions to make on the field.

        Beaver on radio was saying his South African mates have told him Rassie coaches the team in military fashion, what he says goes and pollard in particular is a little on the outer for questioning his methods at times .

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        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

          @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          @Bones My reply was sort of tongue in cheek. But it does cut out any miscommunication between coach and player. The whispering into radios seems a bit redundant when time is of the essence and no way to get the player word easily.

          Ok I see, but pretty concerning he has no faith in his players to know what decisions to make on the field.

          Beaver on radio was saying his South African mates have told him Rassie coaches the team in military fashion, what he says goes and pollard in particular is a little on the outer for questioning his methods at times .

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          @kiwiinmelb yeah it's pretty weird a team of adult, seasoned rugby players need daddy to make decisions for them.

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            I don’t think we deserve a break, we’ve been abject for a long time. The Boks have built a great structure and have great cattle. We don’t have the player base because we dismantled our youth development and our U20s are shit now. We also have a fucked club structure which means we don’t have the ability to ensure clubs pick props for example. We don’t have the coaching structure, relying on Hail Mary hires, allowing Eddie to piss off every decent coach and swap them every five minutes, taking too long to fire Eddie and appointing a team of coaches with almost no experience or track record, meanwhile our experienced coaches coach elsewhere. On top of that, our players and coaches are pretty hard to warm too - which would be a shame if we were good, is embarrassing when we’re not.

            I understand the odd opinion on here that England have a chance this weekend, but to me it suggests those people haven’t been watching closely enough. I don’t know any England fans who genuinely think we have a chance, some with unbelieved bravado, but no more than that.

            Now I can’t stand the Boks, don’t like the way they play, don’t like many of the players, despise Rassie. But I have to hand it to them they’ve built a hell of a set up.

            I was gutted for France on Sunday, and am not surprised they’ve gone cold, hard to see how they wouldn’t when they genuinely believed this was their best ever chance. My guess is they’ll support Argentina, New Zealand, South Africa, daylight in that order when the time comes. Don’t remember being less excited about an England World Cup game…

            French don’t like the argies. They really like nz. I’d say NZ > SA > Arg > Eng imo.

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            @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            French don’t like the argies.

            Interesting, do you know why?

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                @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

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                So Rassie blocked him, whilst calling him a girl, what a tool.

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  French don’t like the argies.

                  Interesting, do you know why?

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                  @nostrildamus said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  French don’t like the argies.

                  Interesting, do you know why?

                  There’s real bad blood from previous matches thru the ages. 2007 for example. The vast majority of French are now supporting NZ.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    So, no idea if it's been covered elsewhere - but what the fuck is the deal with Rassie's lights? Why not use a radio?

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                    @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    So, no idea if it's been covered elsewhere - but what the fuck is the deal with Rassie's lights? Why not use a radio?

                    Yes it was mentioned.
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                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                      @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @Bones My reply was sort of tongue in cheek. But it does cut out any miscommunication between coach and player. The whispering into radios seems a bit redundant when time is of the essence and no way to get the player word easily.

                      Ok I see, but pretty concerning he has no faith in his players to know what decisions to make on the field.

                      Beaver on radio was saying his South African mates have told him Rassie coaches the team in military fashion, what he says goes and pollard in particular is a little on the outer for questioning his methods at times .

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                      @kiwiinmelb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      Beaver on radio was saying his South African mates have told him Rassie coaches the team in military fashion, what he says goes and pollard in particular is a little on the outer for questioning his methods at times .

                      Link please.

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                        @kiwiinmelb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                        @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                        @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                        Beaver on radio was saying his South African mates have told him Rassie coaches the team in military fashion, what he says goes and pollard in particular is a little on the outer for questioning his methods at times .

                        Link please.

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                        @Frank said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                        @kiwiinmelb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                        @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                        @W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                        Beaver on radio was saying his South African mates have told him Rassie coaches the team in military fashion, what he says goes and pollard in particular is a little on the outer for questioning his methods at times .

                        Link please.

                        I heard it live on radio

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                        • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                          @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                          So, no idea if it's been covered elsewhere - but what the fuck is the deal with Rassie's lights? Why not use a radio?

                          Yes it was mentioned.
                          Screenshot_20231021_170218_Chrome.jpg

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                          @Rancid-Schnitzel why can't he take the bottles on the pitch? Is it just the lights are quicker?

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                          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                            I know no one gives a fufu but the two questions remain.

                            1. What happened to the ABs over the last 4 years
                            2. How did we end up with this WC draw
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                            @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                            I know no one gives a fufu but the two questions remain.

                            1. What happened to the ABs over the last 4 years

                            As in their form leading up to this comp?

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                              Actually looking forward to watching England play. First time for everything

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                              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                I know no one gives a fufu but the two questions remain.

                                1. What happened to the ABs over the last 4 years
                                2. How did we end up with this WC draw
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                                #149

                                @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                I know no one gives a fufu but the two questions remain.

                                1. What happened to the ABs over the last 4 years
                                2. How did we end up with this WC draw

                                Lots of things. On the slide since 2017 but I think the key has been the players' confidence and loyalty to the coaching staff, new forwards coach in Ryan and Joe Schmidt agreeing to get more involved. Sam Cane & snr players deserve huge credit too.

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                                  @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  I know no one gives a fufu but the two questions remain.

                                  1. What happened to the ABs over the last 4 years
                                  2. How did we end up with this WC draw

                                  Lots of things. On the slide since 2017 but I think the key has been the players' confidence and loyalty to the coaching staff, new forwards coach in Ryan and Joe Schmidt agreeing to get more involved. Sam Cane & snr players deserve huge credit too.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  I know no one gives a fufu but the two questions remain.

                                  1. What happened to the ABs over the last 4 years
                                  2. How did we end up with this WC draw

                                  Lots of things. On the slide since 2017 but I think the key has been the players' confidence and loyalty to the coaching staff, new forwards coach in Ryan and Joe Schmidt agreeing to get more involved. Sam Cane & snr players deserve huge credit too.

                                  And I reckon Foz’s perseverance in sticking with the core team and supporting their learning from the mistakes/poor performance /discipline has been another factor.

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                                    Never been so excited to wake up at 5:45am for a game that the ABs aren’t playing in. Looking forward to some quality rugby without any stress.

                                    If you could promise me that the ABs win the final, then I’d choose to have defeated the Boks - but I think I’d much prefer to meet England so will be cheering them on.

                                    Hoping as always for no cards or controversy, but I’d love to see a massive physical battle and some very weary blokes at the end.

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                                      The dream for us would be this one going into sudden death extra time and drop goals at the end.

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                                        The dream for us would be this one going into sudden death extra time and drop goals at the end.

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                                        @sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                        The dream for us would be this one going into sudden death extra time and drop goals at the end.

                                        Lotsa red cards

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel why can't he take the bottles on the pitch? Is it just the lights are quicker?

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                                          @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel why can't he take the bottles on the pitch? Is it just the lights are quicker?

                                          He’s done the water carrier bit, he’s done the support staff in the backfield directing play, his done the videos, he’s done the HIA rest periods. Some of it is tactical and some of it mind games imo.

                                          Either way, he’s bad for rugby.

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