RWC SF: England v Springboks
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@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Machpants said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
England brave as anything but they had 56% possession and couldn’t manage a single clean break.
Sooner or later they are going to need to find some 5/8s and Centres who can pass the ball.
To be fair, they played the Boks at their own game and but for a decision here or there did it much better. France lost chucking it wide, England have bigger 3/4s and sent them up to compete as that was their advantage. It worked. Not pretty but rugby is about winning
And we didn’t. Fuck
They got to comfortable with the lead, then didn't adjust after the try. Kick it long, every time. Even the ABs have put away the defensive bomb!
It was a mistake, not a tactic, we kicked to compete all night and it worked all night, it just didn’t go far enough.
I disagree, is still a risk. Things had changed because any knock on meant scrum which was penalty toSA. Good game managers would've changed at that point. Not worth the risk, as shown
@Machpants said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Machpants said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
England brave as anything but they had 56% possession and couldn’t manage a single clean break.
Sooner or later they are going to need to find some 5/8s and Centres who can pass the ball.
To be fair, they played the Boks at their own game and but for a decision here or there did it much better. France lost chucking it wide, England have bigger 3/4s and sent them up to compete as that was their advantage. It worked. Not pretty but rugby is about winning
And we didn’t. Fuck
They got to comfortable with the lead, then didn't adjust after the try. Kick it long, every time. Even the ABs have put away the defensive bomb!
It was a mistake, not a tactic, we kicked to compete all night and it worked all night, it just didn’t go far enough.
I disagree, is still a risk. Things had changed because any knock on meant scrum which was penalty toSA. Good game managers would've changed at that point. Not worth the risk, as shown
Easy with hindsight, but if it goes another 15 / 20
Metres and he wins it we win the game. -
@game_film said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
I’m glad that the teams that did the hard work of beating France and Ireland made it
Yeah good way of looking at it. From that perspective there’s no way England deserved to be there.
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@Machpants said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
I'm looking forward to playing SA after that. They're tuckered
I doubt it, they had so many rests
Imagine how burnt their retina are from having to make all those decisions though
@Bones You're on fire tonight mate.
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@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
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@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
Yes! He bounced off the first tackler but Vunipola completed it, brought him to ground and then he stood up
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
England panicked. Young team but they should have won from there. Great game
Young team?!
EDIT: Now not sure if this is sarcasm. I’m drunk and emotional.
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
England panicked. Young team but they should have won from there. Great game
Young team?!
EDIT: Now not sure if this is sarcasm. I’m drunk and emotional.
I'm no Borthwick but he seemed to be making note of it.
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@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
England panicked. Young team but they should have won from there. Great game
Young team?!
EDIT: Now not sure if this is sarcasm. I’m drunk and emotional.
I'm no Borthwick but he seemed to be making note of it.
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
England panicked. Young team but they should have won from there. Great game
Young team?!
EDIT: Now not sure if this is sarcasm. I’m drunk and emotional.
I'm no Borthwick but he seemed to be making note of it.
You don’t have his sparkling repartee.
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Was stupid to select reserves props who can't scrum against a team like SA, and in a game like this where there were plenty of stoppages, there was no need to bring them on so early. Borthwick fucked up.
@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Was stupid to select reserves props who can't scrum against a team like SA, and in a game like this where there were plenty of stoppages, there was no need to bring them on so early. Borthwick fucked up.
We don’t have any props who can scrummage! Why do you think dads army were there in the first place. Blame the Premiership not the coach
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@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Was stupid to select reserves props who can't scrum against a team like SA, and in a game like this where there were plenty of stoppages, there was no need to bring them on so early. Borthwick fucked up.
We don’t have any props who can scrummage! Why do you think dads army were there in the first place. Blame the Premiership not the coach
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Was stupid to select reserves props who can't scrum against a team like SA, and in a game like this where there were plenty of stoppages, there was no need to bring them on so early. Borthwick fucked up.
We don’t have any props who can scrummage! Why do you think dads army were there in the first place. Blame the Premiership not the coach
Then why replace the starters so early? It's not like they weren't having rest breaks every 5 minutes.
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@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Was stupid to select reserves props who can't scrum against a team like SA, and in a game like this where there were plenty of stoppages, there was no need to bring them on so early. Borthwick fucked up.
We don’t have any props who can scrummage! Why do you think dads army were there in the first place. Blame the Premiership not the coach
Then why replace the starters so early? It's not like they weren't having rest breaks every 5 minutes.
@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Was stupid to select reserves props who can't scrum against a team like SA, and in a game like this where there were plenty of stoppages, there was no need to bring them on so early. Borthwick fucked up.
We don’t have any props who can scrummage! Why do you think dads army were there in the first place. Blame the Premiership not the coach
Then why replace the starters so early? It's not like they weren't having rest breaks every 5 minutes.
Because the guys who had been on for 55 mins got folded in half after the Boks changed their front row
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@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Was stupid to select reserves props who can't scrum against a team like SA, and in a game like this where there were plenty of stoppages, there was no need to bring them on so early. Borthwick fucked up.
We don’t have any props who can scrummage! Why do you think dads army were there in the first place. Blame the Premiership not the coach
Then why replace the starters so early? It's not like they weren't having rest breaks every 5 minutes.
Because the guys who had been on for 55 mins got folded in half after the Boks changed their front row
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Was stupid to select reserves props who can't scrum against a team like SA, and in a game like this where there were plenty of stoppages, there was no need to bring them on so early. Borthwick fucked up.
We don’t have any props who can scrummage! Why do you think dads army were there in the first place. Blame the Premiership not the coach
Then why replace the starters so early? It's not like they weren't having rest breaks every 5 minutes.
Because the guys who had been on for 55 mins got folded in half after the Boks changed their front row
Including "that" Mitchell kick after having it on a string for 50 minutes
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@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
Yes! He bounced off the first tackler but Vunipola completed it, brought him to ground and then he stood up
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
Yes!
Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.
I understand your disappointment though @Dodge
