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RWC SF: England v Springboks

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    Just watched delay. England had that. The starting props will want to execute their replacements. All that insane commitment for nothing.

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    • menceyM mencey

      Scrum now worries me. Lomax and De groot need to have masive shifts.

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      Bones
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      #807

      @mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

      Scrum now worries me. Lomax and De groot need to have masive shifts.

      Which they always do. I couldn't be worried less.

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      • DodgeD Dodge

        @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        What a crap match. A replay of the 2007 final. SA only have 2 tactics: high balls and scrum penalties.

        Only one tactic tonight

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        #808

        @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        What a crap match. A replay of the 2007 final. SA only have 2 tactics: high balls and scrum penalties.

        Only one tactic tonight

        Did BOK become obsessed with scrums at the end. Evidence on X that says yes

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        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

          @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          What a crap match. A replay of the 2007 final. SA only have 2 tactics: high balls and scrum penalties.

          Only one tactic tonight

          Did BOK become obsessed with scrums at the end. Evidence on X that says yes

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          #809

          @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

          What a crap match. A replay of the 2007 final. SA only have 2 tactics: high balls and scrum penalties.

          Only one tactic tonight

          Did BOK become obsessed with scrums at the end. Evidence on X that says yes

          To be fair to BOK, Reynal gave most of them from the far side which is why BOK went over

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          • DodgeD Dodge

            @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            Why are people complaining about the try?

            I couldn't see anything wrong with it.

            Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.

            Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing

            But was he held?

            Yes!

            Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.

            I understand your disappointment though @Dodge

            To be fair, it doesn’t matter what he did after that. He was tackled, got up, went for the line and was hit again. Whether it made any difference is irrelevant to how obvious a penalty it was

            https://twitter.com/kc_ryback80/status/1715831906556633287?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q

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            @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            @LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            Why are people complaining about the try?

            I couldn't see anything wrong with it.

            Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.

            Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing

            But was he held?

            Yes!

            Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.

            I understand your disappointment though @Dodge

            To be fair, it doesn’t matter what he did after that. He was tackled, got up, went for the line and was hit again. Whether it made any difference is irrelevant to how obvious a penalty it was

            https://x.com/kc_ryback80/status/1715831906556633287?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q

            I think he was flung over by the tackler, so don't agree from that view

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            • BonesB Bones

              @mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

              Scrum now worries me. Lomax and De groot need to have masive shifts.

              Which they always do. I couldn't be worried less.

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              #811

              @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

              @mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

              Scrum now worries me. Lomax and De groot need to have masive shifts.

              Which they always do. I couldn't be worried less.

              Fuck i hope u are wright

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              • DodgeD Dodge

                @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                What a crap match. A replay of the 2007 final. SA only have 2 tactics: high balls and scrum penalties.

                Only one tactic tonight

                Did BOK become obsessed with scrums at the end. Evidence on X that says yes

                To be fair to BOK, Reynal gave most of them from the far side which is why BOK went over

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                Bones
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                @Dodge So confused how anyone, especially your fellow Englishmen can rate Randomnal

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                • menceyM mencey

                  @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  @mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  Scrum now worries me. Lomax and De groot need to have masive shifts.

                  Which they always do. I couldn't be worried less.

                  Fuck i hope u are wright

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                  #813

                  @mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  @Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  @mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                  Scrum now worries me. Lomax and De groot need to have masive shifts.

                  Which they always do. I couldn't be worried less.

                  Fuck i hope u are wright

                  Similar build to Terry in my heyday

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                  • M Machpants

                    @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    Why are people complaining about the try?

                    I couldn't see anything wrong with it.

                    Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.

                    Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing

                    But was he held?

                    Yes!

                    Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.

                    I understand your disappointment though @Dodge

                    To be fair, it doesn’t matter what he did after that. He was tackled, got up, went for the line and was hit again. Whether it made any difference is irrelevant to how obvious a penalty it was

                    https://x.com/kc_ryback80/status/1715831906556633287?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q

                    I think he was flung over by the tackler, so don't agree from that view

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                    Dodge
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                    #814

                    @Machpants said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    @LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                    Why are people complaining about the try?

                    I couldn't see anything wrong with it.

                    Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.

                    Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing

                    But was he held?

                    Yes!

                    Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.

                    I understand your disappointment though @Dodge

                    To be fair, it doesn’t matter what he did after that. He was tackled, got up, went for the line and was hit again. Whether it made any difference is irrelevant to how obvious a penalty it was

                    https://x.com/kc_ryback80/status/1715831906556633287?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q

                    I think he was flung over by the tackler, so don't agree from that view

                    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

                    Whatever

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                    • menceyM mencey

                      Scrum now worries me. Lomax and De groot need to have masive shifts.

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                      akan004
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                      #815

                      @mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      Scrum now worries me. Lomax and De groot need to have masive shifts.

                      Our backup props worry me more than our starters. Ox off the bench is a better scrummager than Kitshoff, so it's a risk to select Williams and Newell imo. Would rather have Nepo and Ofa.

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                        I couldn’t care less about the volume of kicking and lack of “rugby”. That’s the great thing about rugby, more than one way to win a game. Especially in weather like that.

                        I’m very glad we don’t play like that though!

                        What irks me is the constant stoppages and time wasting and using medics and water runners to coach. They need to get the fuck off the field. They shouldn’t even be miked up.

                        If it carries on like this, we might have to go to neutral medics and the players can drink the rain from the sky

                        Absolute disgrace

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                        • voodooV voodoo

                          I couldn’t care less about the volume of kicking and lack of “rugby”. That’s the great thing about rugby, more than one way to win a game. Especially in weather like that.

                          I’m very glad we don’t play like that though!

                          What irks me is the constant stoppages and time wasting and using medics and water runners to coach. They need to get the fuck off the field. They shouldn’t even be miked up.

                          If it carries on like this, we might have to go to neutral medics and the players can drink the rain from the sky

                          Absolute disgrace

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                          Dodge
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                          @voodoo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                          I couldn’t care less about the volume of kicking and lack of “rugby”. That’s the great thing about rugby, more than one way to win a game. Especially in weather like that.

                          I’m very glad we don’t play like that though!

                          What irks me is the constant stoppages and time wasting and using medics and water runners to coach. They need to get the fuck off the field. They shouldn’t even be miked up.

                          If it carries on like this, we might have to go to neutral medics and the players can drink the rain from the sky

                          Absolute disgrace

                          Couldn’t agree more. Forget this evening from an England point of view, the time it takes to set a scrum, to throw into a lineout, every time a forward needs to replace a contact lens etc drives me nuts.

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                          • DodgeD Dodge

                            @Billy-Tell said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                            What a crap match. A replay of the 2007 final. SA only have 2 tactics: high balls and scrum penalties.

                            Only one tactic tonight

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                            stodders
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                            @Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England weren’t making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.

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                              That’s not the style of rugby that we may enjoy but I thought that was a great game, tense and close with both teams trying manipulate through kicking and set piece.

                              I hope SA are tired next week because their ability to come back is very impressive.

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                              • voodooV voodoo

                                I couldn’t care less about the volume of kicking and lack of “rugby”. That’s the great thing about rugby, more than one way to win a game. Especially in weather like that.

                                I’m very glad we don’t play like that though!

                                What irks me is the constant stoppages and time wasting and using medics and water runners to coach. They need to get the fuck off the field. They shouldn’t even be miked up.

                                If it carries on like this, we might have to go to neutral medics and the players can drink the rain from the sky

                                Absolute disgrace

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                                @voodoo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                I couldn’t care less about the volume of kicking and lack of “rugby”. That’s the great thing about rugby, more than one way to win a game. Especially in weather like that.

                                I’m very glad we don’t play like that though!

                                What irks me is the constant stoppages and time wasting and using medics and water runners to coach. They need to get the fuck off the field. They shouldn’t even be miked up.

                                If it carries on like this, we might have to go to neutral medics and the players can drink the rain from the sky

                                Absolute disgrace

                                We should just keep on playing, unless you need a stretcher, he can hobble off and bring on a sub.
                                No need to blow the whistle and stop the game.
                                Props boot comes off, then scrum without a boot.
                                Go down injured, don't care play on.
                                Just don't stop the game.

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                                  @Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England weren’t making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.

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                                  @stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  @Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England weren’t making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.

                                  Yep spot on. My nerves are fucked already. Not sure if it is the beer or the sheer fear of not winning the 4th world cup and letting SA get ahead of us. As someone said, we play the best type of rugby in the world. that should win for rugby sake.

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                                    England wanted to play from static ball and put SA under pressure in the channels in the air - that was out chance. NZ have to play them off their feet (after hitting up front), kicking more intelligently at the right times than France - but play with pace and get the fucking medics off the field

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                                    • menceyM mencey

                                      @stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      @Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England weren’t making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.

                                      Yep spot on. My nerves are fucked already. Not sure if it is the beer or the sheer fear of not winning the 4th world cup and letting SA get ahead of us. As someone said, we play the best type of rugby in the world. that should win for rugby sake.

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                                      #823

                                      @mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      @stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      @Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England weren’t making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.

                                      Yep spot on. My nerves are fucked already. Not sure if it is the beer or the sheer fear of not winning the 4th world cup and letting SA get ahead of us. As someone said, we play the best type of rugby in the world. that should win for rugby sake.

                                      France are better than you and play better rugby

                                      😎

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                                      • DodgeD Dodge

                                        England wanted to play from static ball and put SA under pressure in the channels in the air - that was out chance. NZ have to play them off their feet (after hitting up front), kicking more intelligently at the right times than France - but play with pace and get the fucking medics off the field

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                                        stodders
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                                        @Dodge I’m sure Foster will have a chat with the ref before the game about the medics.

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                                        • DodgeD Dodge

                                          @mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          @stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                          @Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England weren’t making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.

                                          Yep spot on. My nerves are fucked already. Not sure if it is the beer or the sheer fear of not winning the 4th world cup and letting SA get ahead of us. As someone said, we play the best type of rugby in the world. that should win for rugby sake.

                                          France are better than you and play better rugby

                                          😎

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                                          stodders
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                                          @Dodge France are better in pool games with no pressure 😉

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