RWC SF: England v Springboks
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What was the point of picking Billy V? The guy was slow, made handling errors and was ineffective. Great in the past but is well past it now. They should have gone with Mercer who is a far superior player.
@akan004 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
What was the point of picking Billy V? The guy was slow, made handling errors and was ineffective. Great in the past but is well past it now. They should have gone with Mercer who is a far superior player.
Yeah he added nothing but made two crucial errors
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The old loose forward in me fucking loved that. Just a dirty shitfight
The English back row were so fucking good. In fact England won everything except....
The 2nd half scrums. And it killed them. Everything south africa either fashioned, or used to get themselves out of trouble, was off a scrum penalty. And that brought England back and rammed home their inability to turn pressure in to points.
Both teams could and probably should have just picked two extra loose forwards to play in th3 midfield for all they did. Game completely bypassed them.
Hard to call it a deserved victory, but in a game like that you just need to find a way to be in front at the end. South Africa found the scrum.
Seeing as they lost by one, I guess the loss can be put down to Farrell getting marched 10 for mouth. Lol.
@mariner4life said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Seeing as they lost by one, I guess the loss can be put down to Farrell getting marched 10 for mouth. Lol.
To paraphrase Johnny Sexmoaner 'sometimes you get what you deserved'
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@Dodge exactly. The tactics were right because the Boks arial game out wide is not one of their strengths.
I wouldâve been livid with the ABs if we started trying to ârun itâ in those conditions when there was opportunity to kick to the wings and have the likes of Jordan, Jordie and Telea creating havoc on the kick chase.
Still baffled by that last scrum penalty.
Well at least Hawkes Bay lost.
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge exactly. The tactics were right because the Boks arial game out wide is not one of their strengths.
I wouldâve been livid with the ABs if we started trying to ârun itâ in those conditions when there was opportunity to kick to the wings and have the likes of Jordan, Jordie and Telea creating havoc on the kick chase.
Still baffled by that last scrum penalty.
Well at least Hawkes Bay lost.
Not sure our kick chase is that good. What SA do is they get as many around the ball as possible and great confusion. Plus their wingers attack the ball in the air better. We should stick to our game. A close game with few points favours Springboks.
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Peak Walrus. Comedy gold! England have made 4 finals. This wouldnât rank in the top 10 England performances for me.
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Peak Walrus. Comedy gold! England have made 4 finals. This wouldnât rank in the top 10 England performances for me.
Fuck me that is embarrassing, he's getting worse!
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@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Peak Walrus. Comedy gold! England have made 4 finals. This wouldnât rank in the top 10 England performances for me.
Fuck me that is embarrassing, he's getting worse!
@Machpants hospitality drinks affect journalism
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@Machpants hospitality drinks affect journalism
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Machpants hospitality drinks affect journalism
Looks like the results of substances stronger than alcohol
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Ironically the slow pace England forced on the game gave them control but I think ultimately cost them the game as those fat fuck saffer props had the energy to just push in scrums.
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Thoughts on the deciding penalty? Aerial view looked like the green shirt angling in a lot more than white?
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@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Peak Walrus. Comedy gold! England have made 4 finals. This wouldnât rank in the top 10 England performances for me.
Fuck me that is embarrassing, he's getting worse!
@Machpants said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Peak Walrus. Comedy gold! England have made 4 finals. This wouldnât rank in the top 10 England performances for me.
Fuck me that is embarrassing, he's getting worse!
He loves this style of game beautiful it gives a chance to think and write.
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@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
Yes!
Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.
I understand your disappointment though @Dodge
To be fair, it doesnât matter what he did after that. He was tackled, got up, went for the line and was hit again. Whether it made any difference is irrelevant to how obvious a penalty it was
https://twitter.com/kc_ryback80/status/1715831906556633287?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
Yes!
Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.
I understand your disappointment though @Dodge
To be fair, it doesnât matter what he did after that. He was tackled, got up, went for the line and was hit again. Whether it made any difference is irrelevant to how obvious a penalty it was
https://twitter.com/kc_ryback80/status/1715831906556633287?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q
I'm talking after he was tackled. It's not clear to me that he got to his feet. That replay in that tweet is inconclusive. Would like to see that angle rolled on through.
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@mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England werenât making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.
Yep spot on. My nerves are fucked already. Not sure if it is the beer or the sheer fear of not winning the 4th world cup and letting SA get ahead of us. As someone said, we play the best type of rugby in the world. that should win for rugby sake.
France are better than you and play better rugby
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England werenât making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.
Yep spot on. My nerves are fucked already. Not sure if it is the beer or the sheer fear of not winning the 4th world cup and letting SA get ahead of us. As someone said, we play the best type of rugby in the world. that should win for rugby sake.
France are better than you and play better rugby
Are they in the final ?
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@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England werenât making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.
Yep spot on. My nerves are fucked already. Not sure if it is the beer or the sheer fear of not winning the 4th world cup and letting SA get ahead of us. As someone said, we play the best type of rugby in the world. that should win for rugby sake.
France are better than you and play better rugby
Are they in the final ?
@mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England werenât making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.
Yep spot on. My nerves are fucked already. Not sure if it is the beer or the sheer fear of not winning the 4th world cup and letting SA get ahead of us. As someone said, we play the best type of rugby in the world. that should win for rugby sake.
France are better than you and play better rugby
Are they in the final ?
Only in our hearts
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Ox Nche MoM for Boks. Scrum impact changed the game.
Wonder how well he would scrum after being run ragged a bit, because he doesnât look too mobile. Need to test his fitness.
Any SA fans care to comment on his game outside of scrummaging?
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Ox Nche MoM for Boks. Scrum impact changed the game.
Wonder how well he would scrum after being run ragged a bit, because he doesnât look too mobile. Need to test his fitness.
Any SA fans care to comment on his game outside of scrummaging?
Bongi plays full 80 too, when they can slow it down to that pace. If the Boks are allowed to slow it like this game, ABs will really struggle. And vice versa
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@mencey said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge 2 tactics - scrum and wait for a mistake. When England werenât making mistakes, SA had nothing. No creativity. Then Ox came on and started winning them penalties and field position.
Yep spot on. My nerves are fucked already. Not sure if it is the beer or the sheer fear of not winning the 4th world cup and letting SA get ahead of us. As someone said, we play the best type of rugby in the world. that should win for rugby sake.
France are better than you and play better rugby
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@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
Yes!
Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.
I understand your disappointment though @Dodge
To be fair, it doesnât matter what he did after that. He was tackled, got up, went for the line and was hit again. Whether it made any difference is irrelevant to how obvious a penalty it was
https://twitter.com/kc_ryback80/status/1715831906556633287?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q
I'm talking after he was tackled. It's not clear to me that he got to his feet. That replay in that tweet is inconclusive. Would like to see that angle rolled on through.
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
Yes!
Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.
I understand your disappointment though @Dodge
To be fair, it doesnât matter what he did after that. He was tackled, got up, went for the line and was hit again. Whether it made any difference is irrelevant to how obvious a penalty it was
https://twitter.com/kc_ryback80/status/1715831906556633287?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q
I'm talking after he was tackled. It's clear to me that he got to his feet. That replay in that tweet is inconclusive. Would like to see that angle rolled on through.
How is it inconclusive? He lands, then physically stands up in that shot
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Thoughts on the deciding penalty? Aerial view looked like the green shirt angling in a lot more than white?
@mariner4life said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Thoughts on the deciding penalty? Aerial view looked like the green shirt angling in a lot more than white?
I thought the opposite in my single viewing of thatshot. Dunno who went first though.
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The old loose forward in me fucking loved that. Just a dirty shitfight
The English back row were so fucking good. In fact England won everything except....
The 2nd half scrums. And it killed them. Everything south africa either fashioned, or used to get themselves out of trouble, was off a scrum penalty. And that brought England back and rammed home their inability to turn pressure in to points.
Both teams could and probably should have just picked two extra loose forwards to play in th3 midfield for all they did. Game completely bypassed them.
Hard to call it a deserved victory, but in a game like that you just need to find a way to be in front at the end. South Africa found the scrum.
Seeing as they lost by one, I guess the loss can be put down to Farrell getting marched 10 for mouth. Lol.
@mariner4life I actually thought that may have helped them. They would have put it in the corner, although England defended those lineout mauls really well.
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@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
Yes!
Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.
I understand your disappointment though @Dodge
To be fair, it doesnât matter what he did after that. He was tackled, got up, went for the line and was hit again. Whether it made any difference is irrelevant to how obvious a penalty it was
https://twitter.com/kc_ryback80/status/1715831906556633287?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q
I'm talking after he was tackled. It's clear to me that he got to his feet. That replay in that tweet is inconclusive. Would like to see that angle rolled on through.
How is it inconclusive? He lands, then physically stands up in that shot
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@LABCAT said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Why are people complaining about the try?
I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
Shame England didn't win as I doubt they would have any chance against the All Blacks.
Because the runner off the back of the lineoit was tackled to the ground and got up and went again without releasing
But was he held?
Yes!
Just looked. Yes he was, but it's unclear to me what he did after that, there's no clear replay of what happened. It certainly looked real-time as if he got up, but potentially just rolled over. Would like to see that from the sideline camera.
I understand your disappointment though @Dodge
To be fair, it doesnât matter what he did after that. He was tackled, got up, went for the line and was hit again. Whether it made any difference is irrelevant to how obvious a penalty it was
https://twitter.com/kc_ryback80/status/1715831906556633287?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q
I'm talking after he was tackled. It's * not * clear to me that he got to his feet. That replay in that tweet is inconclusive. Would like to see that angle rolled on through.
How is it inconclusive? He lands, then physically stands up in that shot
Typo in the previous post - I missed the "not" which have inserted above.
I'm yet to be convinced. That replay needs to roll through. It's possible he didn't actually get to his feet. You're kind if hoping he did. He might have. Not clear.
I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I'm yet to be convinced.
Don't want to pick a fight though as I know what you're dealing with.
