RWC SF: England v Springboks
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And even the tone of it suggests it is shouted at the team and not to a specific person... Or at least that is what it sounds like to me
Also if it was aimed at the English it would have had a fluffy bunny prefix
@thelemmning70 so we're back to Curry is a moron. Quelle surprising
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@thelemmning70 so we're back to Curry is a moron. Quelle surprising
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@thelemmning70 so we're back to Curry is a moron. Quelle surprising
No.... Think he has just made wrong assumptions. And you know what they say about assumptions.
Did you listen to the clip? What is your opinion.... Especially the afrikaans in it?
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@thelemmning70 so we're back to Curry is a moron. Quelle surprising
No.... Think he has just made wrong assumptions. And you know what they say about assumptions.
Did you listen to the clip? What is your opinion.... Especially the afrikaans in it?
@thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Think he has just made wrong assumptions.
Yeah it wasn't even directed at him, it was being shouted repeatedly like an instruction and he decides it's for him and follows up by going up to the ref in the middle of the match with a very serious accusation that he knows will be heard on the mic.
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@thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Think he has just made wrong assumptions.
Yeah it wasn't even directed at him, it was being shouted repeatedly like an instruction and he decides it's for him and follows up by going up to the ref in the middle of the match with a very serious accusation that he knows will be heard on the mic.
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Think he has just made wrong assumptions.
Yeah it wasn't even directed at him, it was being shouted repeatedly like an instruction and he decides it's for him and follows up by going up to the ref in the middle of the match with a very serious accusation that he knows will be heard on the mic.
Perfect summary
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@Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Relief.
That was my overwhelming emotion after that game.
I was concerned that the Boks were coming off that epic battle against France and would be flat.
And they were. They were at least 10% down on individual performance across the park.Having said that, I give immense credit to England for blunting the Boks in almost every facet of the game - bar the scrums once Ox and Koch came on. They kicked and chased well, were excellent in the lineouts and the loose and their defence was heroic. They suffocated the Boks virtually out of the game. In the end, it was immensely unlucky and almost cruel for them to lose the game in the 78th minute.
On the (one tiny) plus side for the Boks, they showed enough character to win ugly when they really were well outplayed. I'll take that. But if that level of performance is repeated in the final we are going to see our backsides against the ABs.
I also felt relief. But it was more the kind of ecstatic satisfaction that follows a tough night of spadework with an aloof smokeshow with her motherhen constantly trying to cockblock you and a constant stream of dickheads with no real hope of scoring trying to interfere. And then when you finally get back to her place youāre regretting all those brandy & cokes and the nagging doubts start rolling through. But when you step up to the tee, in the swirling wind and the driving rain with the hostile crowd booing and BOK struggling, you know you were designed by god for this moment. And the rapture sweeps you away as you drive it straight home.
At least, thatās how it felt from where I was sitting on the halfway, up where the air was thin amongst the sour French, glib kiwis and at first disbelieving, then hopeful and as KLH knocked it on, gloating, English.
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@thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Think he has just made wrong assumptions.
Yeah it wasn't even directed at him, it was being shouted repeatedly like an instruction and he decides it's for him and follows up by going up to the ref in the middle of the match with a very serious accusation that he knows will be heard on the mic.
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Think he has just made wrong assumptions.
Yeah it wasn't even directed at him, it was being shouted repeatedly like an instruction and he decides it's for him and follows up by going up to the ref in the middle of the match with a very serious accusation that he knows will be heard on the mic.
Well, as said above, it needed to be investigated. My take is most likely explanation is Bongi taking Afrikaans and Curry not understanding. If Curry did understand or was shit-stirring however...
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@thelemmning70 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Think he has just made wrong assumptions.
Yeah it wasn't even directed at him, it was being shouted repeatedly like an instruction and he decides it's for him and follows up by going up to the ref in the middle of the match with a very serious accusation that he knows will be heard on the mic.
Well, as said above, it needed to be investigated. My take is most likely explanation is Bongi taking Afrikaans and Curry not understanding. If Curry did understand or was shit-stirring however...
@Victor-Meldrew thing is, he's shouting it for everyone to hear and it's not even seemingly being said targeting Curry, so why would he take it that way? Unless he didn't...
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@nostrildamus not apparently. There's nothing and no one anywhere claiming the ref heard it, except for you with zero to back it up. That's absurd.
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@nostrildamus not apparently. There's nothing and no one anywhere claiming the ref heard it, except for you with zero to back it up. That's absurd.
"since the ref apparently also heard it" I said. I'm happy to concede it is not clear the ref meant he heard it or he meant if it happens he'll do something. As he did not seem to talk to the Boks the latter is quite likely. I'm not fussed either way. Not sure why you want to get me to say I claimed it. Anyway forget it, you be you.
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@nostrildamus not apparently. There's nothing and no one anywhere claiming the ref heard it, except for you with zero to back it up. That's absurd.
"since the ref apparently also heard it" I said. I'm happy to concede it is not clear the ref meant he heard it or he meant if it happens he'll do something. As he did not seem to talk to the Boks the latter is quite likely. I'm not fussed either way. Not sure why you want to get me to say I claimed it. Anyway forget it, you be you.
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@Smuts I was in E12. At the end a couple of Bok fellas were ecstatic with relief. Leaping around like jumping jacks!
@pakman said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Smuts I was in E12. At the end a couple of Bok fellas were ecstatic with relief. Leaping around like jumping jacks!
Canāt take them out of Pretoria.
The correct response was to finish Swing Low on your own.
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@Victor-Meldrew thing is, he's shouting it for everyone to hear and it's not even seemingly being said targeting Curry, so why would he take it that way? Unless he didn't...
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew thing is, he's shouting it for everyone to hear and it's not even seemingly being said targeting Curry, so why would he take it that way? Unless he didn't...
Because deep down he knows what he is. But then every openside worth our salt rejoice in the same knowledge.
Sidenote: happened to be standing next to his family as he walked to the touchline after the game. Heād obviously given everything he had and more. His first words were: I broke my nose. Looked like heād met a cement mixer after going the wrong way down a one way street. Guy played a blinder. We lose that game if Bongi hadnāt been the cement mixer.
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@Victor-Meldrew thing is, he's shouting it for everyone to hear and it's not even seemingly being said targeting Curry, so why would he take it that way? Unless he didn't...
@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew thing is, he's shouting it for everyone to hear and it's not even seemingly being said targeting Curry, so why would he take it that way? Unless he didn't...
If true, it's getting a little complicated...
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@Bones said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew thing is, he's shouting it for everyone to hear and it's not even seemingly being said targeting Curry, so why would he take it that way? Unless he didn't...
If true, it's getting a little complicated...
@Victor-Meldrew I take it all back. Curry is smarter than SBW.
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@Victor-Meldrew I take it all back. Curry is smarter than SBW.
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@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel are you as willing to accept that curry might have made it up ?
Yeah sure. For shits and giggles during the middle of the game Curry decided to make up a story about hearing a racial slur. He even planned it out with Marler and Farrell in advance. They made a pact to do it.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel are you as willing to accept that curry might have made it up ?
Yeah sure. For shits and giggles during the middle of the game Curry decided to make up a story about hearing a racial slur. He even planned it out with Marler and Farrell in advance. They made a pact to do it.
Youāre saying curry isnāt capable of gamesmanship?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel are you as willing to accept that curry might have made it up ?
Yeah sure. For shits and giggles during the middle of the game Curry decided to make up a story about hearing a racial slur. He even planned it out with Marler and Farrell in advance. They made a pact to do it.
Youāre saying curry isnāt capable of gamesmanship?
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel are you as willing to accept that curry might have made it up ?
Yeah sure. For shits and giggles during the middle of the game Curry decided to make up a story about hearing a racial slur. He even planned it out with Marler and Farrell in advance. They made a pact to do it.
Youāre saying curry isnāt capable of gamesmanship?
Of course he is capable of it. Is Mbonambi capable of calling Curry a White fluffybunny? Of course he is capable of that. In neither case though does that mean either happened. If you want to consider probability, it is more likely that Bongi called him a White fluffybunny in the heat of the moment than that Curry suddenly decided to make up a story about a racial slur. Just as likely though is Bongi calling out in Afrikaans and Curry mistakenly taking exception to it.
For once WR seem to be taking the right stance. Investigation, consideration, decision.
Likely outcome? Nothing to see here, move on.
The thing that strikes me as funny though is that if Bongi did call him a White fluffybunny, everyone will be up in arms only about the bit that is indisputable. Curry is definitely white, whether heās a fluffybunny or not is just a matter of opinion.
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@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel are you as willing to accept that curry might have made it up ?
Yeah sure. For shits and giggles during the middle of the game Curry decided to make up a story about hearing a racial slur. He even planned it out with Marler and Farrell in advance. They made a pact to do it.
Youāre saying curry isnāt capable of gamesmanship?
Of course he is capable of it. Is Mbonambi capable of calling Curry a White fluffybunny? Of course he is capable of that. In neither case though does that mean either happened. If you want to consider probability, it is more likely that Bongi called him a White fluffybunny in the heat of the moment than that Curry suddenly decided to make up a story about a racial slur. Just as likely though is Bongi calling out in Afrikaans and Curry mistakenly taking exception to it.
For once WR seem to be taking the right stance. Investigation, consideration, decision.
Likely outcome? Nothing to see here, move on.
The thing that strikes me as funny though is that if Bongi did call him a White fluffybunny, everyone will be up in arms only about the bit that is indisputable. Curry is definitely white, whether heās a fluffybunny or not is just a matter of opinion.
@Catogrande if heād just called him a fluffy bunny (allegedly for @Bones) there would be nothing to see here.
But weāre in a vicious spiral to the bottom in an era of identity politics. So using the colour of someones skin as an adjective when verbally having a pop at someone is a no go zone. Assume pitchforks and torches are waiting if you do.
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@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel are you as willing to accept that curry might have made it up ?
Yeah sure. For shits and giggles during the middle of the game Curry decided to make up a story about hearing a racial slur. He even planned it out with Marler and Farrell in advance. They made a pact to do it.
Youāre saying curry isnāt capable of gamesmanship?
Of course he is capable of it. Is Mbonambi capable of calling Curry a White fluffybunny? Of course he is capable of that. In neither case though does that mean either happened. If you want to consider probability, it is more likely that Bongi called him a White fluffybunny in the heat of the moment than that Curry suddenly decided to make up a story about a racial slur. Just as likely though is Bongi calling out in Afrikaans and Curry mistakenly taking exception to it.
For once WR seem to be taking the right stance. Investigation, consideration, decision.
Likely outcome? Nothing to see here, move on.
The thing that strikes me as funny though is that if Bongi did call him a White fluffybunny, everyone will be up in arms only about the bit that is indisputable. Curry is definitely white, whether heās a fluffybunny or not is just a matter of opinion.
@Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel are you as willing to accept that curry might have made it up ?
Yeah sure. For shits and giggles during the middle of the game Curry decided to make up a story about hearing a racial slur. He even planned it out with Marler and Farrell in advance. They made a pact to do it.
Youāre saying curry isnāt capable of gamesmanship?
Of course he is capable of it. Is Mbonambi capable of calling Curry a White fluffybunny? Of course he is capable of that. In neither case though does that mean either happened. If you want to consider probability, it is more likely that Bongi called him a White fluffybunny in the heat of the moment than that Curry suddenly decided to make up a story about a racial slur. Just as likely though is Bongi calling out in Afrikaans and Curry mistakenly taking exception to it.
For once WR seem to be taking the right stance. Investigation, consideration, decision.
Likely outcome? Nothing to see here, move on.
The thing that strikes me as funny though is that if Bongi did call him a White fluffybunny, everyone will be up in arms only about the bit that is indisputable. Curry is definitely white, whether heās a fluffybunny or not is just a matter of opinion.
The point I'm making is that @Rancid-Schnitzel Is convinced it happened.
I'm just pointing out that he quick to jump to conclusions. Agree with your dialog.
