RWC SF: England v Springboks
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
The big question is why the RFU are doubling down. Could be that they're still salty about the SF, but they really have zero to gain from doing this. Before I was firmly in the camp that it there was nothing in it and that Curry should have focussed on the biggest game of his life and not bad words hurting his feelings. Now I not so sure. Again, why double down?
We're talking about the RFU here.
Not really the paragon of a thoughtful well run organization with a bunch of geniuses at the top of late are they?Whilst I agree with you view on the RFU, what makes me wonder is that they have effectively broken ranks with the status quo and that is not really in their DNA.
That's what intrigues me. If it were Comical Eddie I'd say he was shit-stirring. But Borthwick doesn't strike me as a bloke to play games.
Certainly not rugby!
But yeah, he’s a straight up sort of bloke and as I’ve alluded to previously, the RFU aren’t known for rocking the boat, more sit back, drink the gin and it will all blow over sort of thing. For both to come out as strongly as they have, there must be a perceived grievance. Whether that is lack of due process or a belief that Bongi is a serial offender I don’t know. But something ain’t right.
If it is related to Bongi, I’m thinking that it would be an issue but it might be getting over inflated. But maybe that’s my age showing.
@Catogrande does he strike you as an ALL CAPS user? Or the gin guzzlers either for that matter?
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@Dodge He was. The RFU say so. They just don’t like the DO’s assessment of his testimony.
The more interesting question is why did the RFU put out a statement that left reasonable English supporters confused.
@Smuts said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge He was. The RFU say so. They just don’t like the DO’s assessment of his testimony.
The more interesting question is why did the RFU put out a statement that left reasonable English supporters confused.
Where does it say that? I’m not disagreeing, I just don’t understand where it’s been said he’s had his voice heard?
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It obviously doesn't need to be explained that this is an ultra, hyper sensitive issue. There are appurtenant and reasonable questions to ask about why the English camp are putting their neck out like this. Simply slagging them off with accusations of sour grapes and manipulating the press is pretty damn weak.
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3rd para they say Curry spoke to the investigators and then in the 5th they whinge that WR is not putting “THE EVIDENCE” before a disciplinary panel so “HIS ACCOUNT” can be assessed against the other available evidence.
@Smuts said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
3rd para they say Curry spoke to the investigators and then in the 5th they whinge that WR is not putting “THE EVIDENCE” before a disciplinary panel so “HIS ACCOUNT” can be assessed against the other available evidence.
Mate, I’m drunk and definitely not trying to be a dick (it comes naturally), but can you post a link to what you’re talking about? I can only find the WRU statement above
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@Smuts said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
3rd para they say Curry spoke to the investigators and then in the 5th they whinge that WR is not putting “THE EVIDENCE” before a disciplinary panel so “HIS ACCOUNT” can be assessed against the other available evidence.
Mate, I’m drunk and definitely not trying to be a dick (it comes naturally), but can you post a link to what you’re talking about? I can only find the WRU statement above
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Thanks, hadn’t seen that.
Edit: don’t know what that link actually says or is complaining about to be honest. “Informed by Tom Curry” might mean in writing, rather than interviewed by a panel? Don’t know, either way, it appears he was able to present his case - even if it was in writing - it was just decided that there wasn’t enough evidence to proceed with a charge. Thems the breaks.
The ferocity of the RFU and Borthwick’s response speaks volumes for them sticking up for their player, but I don’t know what it says about the truth of the incident.
Overall, and last word on it from me, I’ve still got no idea if it happened, still feel sorry for Curry about how he’s been treated and suspect players have learned a simple truth that complaining about this sort of thing isn’t good for you, so they won’t
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@Catogrande RFU alleging that Mbonambi is a repeat offender. Ooer
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Catogrande RFU alleging that Mbonambi is a repeat offender. Ooer
He did yell it several times.
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No due process, repeat accusation, can only imagine the gnashing of teeth if the accusation had been the other way around. The abuse Tom Curry has received online is shameful
@Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
No due process, repeat accusation, can only imagine the gnashing of teeth if the accusation had been the other way around. The abuse Tom Curry has received online is shameful
I will not be shamed for my reliably eyes and ears informed position that Curry is a moron.
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Thanks, hadn’t seen that.
Edit: don’t know what that link actually says or is complaining about to be honest. “Informed by Tom Curry” might mean in writing, rather than interviewed by a panel? Don’t know, either way, it appears he was able to present his case - even if it was in writing - it was just decided that there wasn’t enough evidence to proceed with a charge. Thems the breaks.
The ferocity of the RFU and Borthwick’s response speaks volumes for them sticking up for their player, but I don’t know what it says about the truth of the incident.
Overall, and last word on it from me, I’ve still got no idea if it happened, still feel sorry for Curry about how he’s been treated and suspect players have learned a simple truth that complaining about this sort of thing isn’t good for you, so they won’t
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I’m sure deflecting from this genuine racism has nothing to do with the posture the RFU has constructed regarding Curry’s unsubstantiated allegations: https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/s/wfPVRf35jw
“ Sarek was introduced to the RFU volunteer, who said Sarek used the term, “not another black fluffybunny””
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I’m sure deflecting from this genuine racism has nothing to do with the posture the RFU has constructed regarding Curry’s unsubstantiated allegations: https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/s/wfPVRf35jw
“ Sarek was introduced to the RFU volunteer, who said Sarek used the term, “not another black fluffybunny””
But, but he was born a Nigerian and has been there too.
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Any more on the Curry/Mbonambi saga? Seems chickenshit of England to suggest their man was right and yet do nothing about it after making a big fuss.
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Any more on the Curry/Mbonambi saga? Seems chickenshit of England to suggest their man was right and yet do nothing about it after making a big fuss.
@W32 said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Any more on the Curry/Mbonambi saga? Seems chickenshit of England to suggest their man was right and yet do nothing about it after making a big fuss.
Nah mate. They’ve said their piece. If they kept going on about it people would think they’re blinkered, sour, South Africans.
No offence.
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