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Hurricanes vs Blues

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    Unless you're a Canes fan I think it will be hard for anyone to understand how much he f'd with that team while he was in charge. The selections at times were completely bemusing and there are countless threads from the past that had so many of us scratching our heads.

    I'm so glad he's gone.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

    Unless you're a Canes fan I think it will be hard for anyone to understand how much he f'd with that team while he was in charge. The selections at times were completely bemusing and there are countless threads from the past that had so many of us scratching our heads.

    I'm so glad he's gone.

    I don't disagree with the bemusing selections at times with Holland - especially in the forwards (Blackwell, Prinsep etc etc)

    However - i do think there's nuance involved - he had challenges from a selection point of view Laidlaw hasn't had to deal with yet. Ruben Love was not available through injury, Naholo was unavailable a lot through injury, Cameron was injured. He had to fit in Ardie which is something Laidlaw doesn't have to deal with (i.e. someone from the current loosie mix has to miss out).

    Holland selected Roigard at 9 last year and backed him. Holland stuck with Jordie at 12 last year. Holland gave Lakai starts last year but to be perfectly honest Lakai is much more physically ready this season which is not Holland's fault etc.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

      Unless you're a Canes fan I think it will be hard for anyone to understand how much he f'd with that team while he was in charge. The selections at times were completely bemusing and there are countless threads from the past that had so many of us scratching our heads.

      I'm so glad he's gone.

      I don't disagree with the bemusing selections at times with Holland - especially in the forwards (Blackwell, Prinsep etc etc)

      However - i do think there's nuance involved - he had challenges from a selection point of view Laidlaw hasn't had to deal with yet. Ruben Love was not available through injury, Naholo was unavailable a lot through injury, Cameron was injured. He had to fit in Ardie which is something Laidlaw doesn't have to deal with (i.e. someone from the current loosie mix has to miss out).

      Holland selected Roigard at 9 last year and backed him. Holland stuck with Jordie at 12 last year. Holland gave Lakai starts last year but to be perfectly honest Lakai is much more physically ready this season which is not Holland's fault etc.

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      @KiwiMurph I see what you're saying, it's more the continued selections of the likes of Prinsep, Savea, Blackwell and a few others when his hand wasn't forced that completely didn't make sense and hamstrung us more often than not. There was rarely a week where the selection of two or three players on the team wasn't questioned, compared to this year where there really hasn't been much to argue with tbh.

      Anyway to refrain from the negativity I'm really looking forward to this clash on Saturday. No excuses for both sides and I hope we see a competitive game that will likely come down to a few big moments.

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        It is going to be a good indication of where the teams are at I think. Which tight five is going to stand and deliver? Looking forward to it.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          Unless you're a Canes fan I think it will be hard for anyone to understand how much he f'd with that team while he was in charge. The selections at times were completely bemusing and there are countless threads from the past that had so many of us scratching our heads.

          I'm so glad he's gone.

          I don't disagree with the bemusing selections at times with Holland - especially in the forwards (Blackwell, Prinsep etc etc)

          However - i do think there's nuance involved - he had challenges from a selection point of view Laidlaw hasn't had to deal with yet. Ruben Love was not available through injury, Naholo was unavailable a lot through injury, Cameron was injured. He had to fit in Ardie which is something Laidlaw doesn't have to deal with (i.e. someone from the current loosie mix has to miss out).

          Holland selected Roigard at 9 last year and backed him. Holland stuck with Jordie at 12 last year. Holland gave Lakai starts last year but to be perfectly honest Lakai is much more physically ready this season which is not Holland's fault etc.

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          @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          Holland selected Roigard at 9 last year and backed him. Holland stuck with Jordie at 12 last year. Holland gave Lakai starts last year but to be perfectly honest Lakai is much more physically ready this season which is not Holland's fault etc.

          Your examples are not great.

          With HB he had no choice with Booth in terrible form the other main option.

          Holland started Lakai in week 1 but what then? Eventually just dopped him from the 23 even when available

          Regarding Barrett. When Cameron was injured, I would have moved Barrett to 1st and started Higgins at 2nd. He did neither and instead went for the limited Morgan at first

          He was just a limited coach and was super happy when he went. And nothing that's happened so far this year has changed my mind

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            foobaNZ
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            Struggling to fathom Holland would have defenders to be honest. There was obviously something there, as I'm sure Razor wouldn't have wanted him otherwise, but in terms of player management and selections, I'm so happy to see the back of him.

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              Mr Fish
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              I don't think Holland was great and I think he made some awful selections, but I don't think we've seen anywhere close to enough from Laidlaw yet to suggest he's any different.

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                nzzp
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                Marshall just described Christie's pass as superb. FFS. He's got strengths, but a comparison to Aaron Smith isn't right Justin

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                  Kirwan
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                  Looking forward to this, two strong teams.

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                    Machpants
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                    Finlay Christay, apparently. Go commentary team

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                      Kirwan
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                      Some good signs on d and attack. Sullivan with a great break

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                        I like a ref that doesn’t talk every two seconds.

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                          I see Higgins is one of those players that has to run in an pat every single player at every set piece or penalty win 🤮

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                            Sullivan for AB fullback bandwagon starts here

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                              Another high quality game.

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                                Impressive start from both sides.

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                                  Nepia
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                                  WTF was Perofta doing there? Why wasn't he urgent and try and clear it rather than leaving it for either a 50/20 or goal line drop out (am I on a league thread 😉 ).

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                                    Kirwan
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                                    Nice kick to set that up, good area to kick.

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                                      7-0 Canes

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                                        Some quality rugby here

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                                          VG ongoing play by the Canes
                                          Try in the corner

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