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Blues v Crusaders

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    #243

    Well that was easy. Easily could have scored four or five more, which is enjoyable with a 20 point win in very wet conditions.

    Great wet weather tactics from us, completely dominated them. Picked a good game to go to.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

      @Stockcar86 said in Blues v Crusaders:

      What is up with the hooker standing in play to throw to the line out. When was that legal

      Same time not straight scrum feeds became legal

      Actually they are legal now. Are you serious about the throw ins?

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      @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

      @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

      @Stockcar86 said in Blues v Crusaders:

      What is up with the hooker standing in play to throw to the line out. When was that legal

      Same time not straight scrum feeds became legal

      Actually they are legal now. Are you serious about the throw ins?

      No I was taking the piss, didn't realise legal

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      • KirwanK Offline
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        #245

        alt text

        Great return from injury

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          • TimT Away
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            #247

            I think a player the Crusaders really miss is Sione Havili. They don't have a defensive hitter in their loose forwards, and without one you can't stop opposition momentum easily.

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            • TimT Away
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              Tim
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              #248

              Zarn Sullivan injured his knee. Scan tomorrow.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

                Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

                BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

                He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

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                MiketheSnow
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                #249

                @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

                Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

                BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

                He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

                Agreed

                Thought he was the difference in the backs

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                • BonesB Bones

                  Oh hi @African-Monkey

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                  African Monkey
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                  #250

                  @Bones HI how's it going?

                  Yeah, just watching now, and yes, I'll concede, the Crusaders are in full rebuild. A lot of kids in the pack mixed with a lot of past it old men. Watching Joe Moody getting dominated by Marcel Renata of all people was quite sad to watch in a way as he was once a great player, but now it's barely a shadow of himself.

                  Dare I say the Blues should be a bit disappointed not getting a BP? we left a fair few points out there. Obviously conditions didn't help, but I did feel like we should have had about 2 more tries with better option taking.

                  Still, any win against the Crusaders is a good win no matter the situation so we'll take it.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    So is Wilson calling Grace and Christie inexperienced now?

                    TJ whinging about the players not there, get over it. Every team goes through it.

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                    #251

                    @Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:

                    So is Wilson calling Grace and Christie inexperienced now?

                    TJ whinging about the players not there, get over it. Every team goes through it.

                    Tell me about it. If we ever had injuries over the years and attempted to bring it up during our dark days we got laughed out of town for it.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

                      BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

                      He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

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                      booboo
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                      #252

                      @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

                      BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

                      He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

                      You don't expect me to watch more than his obvious highlights?

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                        Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                        Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

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                        Bones
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                        #253

                        @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                        Hannah missed 7

                        You're welcome.

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

                          BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

                          He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

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                          Bones
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                          @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          upgrade on JRK

                          On evidence so far this year, I'm not sold on that one.

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                          • KiwiMurphK Online
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                            Tuipulotu excellent. What a game from him. McWhannell also played very well.

                            Ricciitelli threw well (as did Vikena).

                            Cotter really has the Blues playing like a top 14 French team haha.

                            Grace might have to be the most disappointing Crusader. Just hasn't lifted and taked on a senior role.

                            Hotham and Hannah went well for Crusaders I thought.

                            Hard to get a read on many Crusaders cos they never got into their game and haven't all season.

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                              Billy Tell
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                              What’s missing in this modern age is good old fashioned honesty. Ricatelli and Aumua hang your heads in shame. Just admit you dropped the ball and spare us needless TMO intervention.

                              Crusaders are hopeless this year. When your recruits are crusaders players from 5 to 10 years ago you’re in trouble. Newell and Hannah the best of the forwards. No stand outs in the backs, that 10 is a world class journeyman.

                              I will never rate PT as he is hopeless in the line out at international level but he was good around the field. Solid win for the blues.

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                              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                What’s missing in this modern age is good old fashioned honesty. Ricatelli and Aumua hang your heads in shame. Just admit you dropped the ball and spare us needless TMO intervention.

                                Crusaders are hopeless this year. When your recruits are crusaders players from 5 to 10 years ago you’re in trouble. Newell and Hannah the best of the forwards. No stand outs in the backs, that 10 is a world class journeyman.

                                I will never rate PT as he is hopeless in the line out at international level but he was good around the field. Solid win for the blues.

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                                Bones
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                                #257

                                @Billy-Tell said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                he is hopeless in the line out at international level

                                And yet one of the notable things about whenever he came off the bench was he seemed to steal the first lineout.

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                                • DuluthD Offline
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                                  Duluth
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                                  #258

                                  Rucks less than 3 seconds:

                                  Blues: 56 (46%)
                                  Crus: 11 (22%)

                                  Ruck arrival stats
                                  Screenshot 2024-03-24 at 11.50.00 AM.png

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                                    Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                                    Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

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                                    Nevorian
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                                    @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                    A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                                    Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                                    Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                                    23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

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                                      @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                                      Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                                      Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                                      23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

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                                      Duluth
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                                      @Nevorian said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                                      Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                                      Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                                      23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

                                      77% for the game is low

                                      Crusaders have missed more tackles than any other team in SR. Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                                      It's definitely a problem

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                                        antipodean
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                                        Finally able to watch the game and a few things really stick out for me. In no particular order:

                                        1. Reece is, by orders of magnitude, the best player in the Crusaders.
                                        2. Perofeta's decision making is shit. He costs points. Not a good trait for someone playing at 10.
                                        3. Christie is an abysmal halfback. Shit pass, takes far too long to make a decision at rucks. Two phases in a row he waddled along while other players actually made an effort to do his job for him, quickly clearing the ball and passing. How he keeps getting minutes is a mystery.
                                        4. The difference in this match was summed up by Clarke's brilliant defensive effort on Aumua.
                                        5. How many games will Penney lose before he's sacked?
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                                          The Crusaders are a mess and some players are just not up to this level and the others are floundering about headless. Lineout was an absolute disgrace. Even the commentators were dumbfounded by their decision to keep doing the same lineout formation failure after failure. The coaching box is not up to it, pure and simple.
                                          Sad to see Moody's form. Reece and Newell were pretty good.
                                          Blues on the other hand, doing the basics well esp. in the forward pack. Basically, did a Crusaders on the Crusaders, attacked the set piece, great maul defense, and bollocked them at the breakdown.

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