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Waratahs v Crusaders

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  • ChrisC Chris

    We are playing some dumb arse rugby this season.
    Sure we have lost a few great players but there is enough SR experience in that side to still be playing much better.
    The Crusaders need to flush Penny and a few players who are not going to add much .
    Build the team again next year they still have a decent base to build on to.

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    @Chris said in Waratahs v Crusaders:

    We are playing some dumb arse rugby this season.
    Sure we have lost a few great players but there is enough SR experience in that side to still be playing much better.
    The Crusaders need to flush Penny and a few players who are not going to add much .
    Build the team again next year they still have a decent base to build on to.

    Find a top coach and the rest should (maybe slowly) fall into place. And Ellison isn't a top head coach. Good assistant but that's all.

    I hope the Crusaders have a few lean years. One team always winning is boring

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      @Chris said in Waratahs v Crusaders:

      We are playing some dumb arse rugby this season.
      Sure we have lost a few great players but there is enough SR experience in that side to still be playing much better.
      The Crusaders need to flush Penny and a few players who are not going to add much .
      Build the team again next year they still have a decent base to build on to.

      Find a top coach and the rest should (maybe slowly) fall into place. And Ellison isn't a top head coach. Good assistant but that's all.

      I hope the Crusaders have a few lean years. One team always winning is boring

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      @Winger said in Waratahs v Crusaders:

      @Chris said in Waratahs v Crusaders:

      We are playing some dumb arse rugby this season.
      Sure we have lost a few great players but there is enough SR experience in that side to still be playing much better.
      The Crusaders need to flush Penny and a few players who are not going to add much .
      Build the team again next year they still have a decent base to build on to.

      Find a top coach and the rest should (maybe slowly) fall into place. And Ellison isn't a top head coach. Good assistant but that's all.

      I hope the Crusaders have a few lean years. One team always winning is boring

      It is boring for the Losers.
      We will be back not this year but by 2026.

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        Crusaders are less than the sum of their parts. Coaching staff problem. Blackadder and Reece were bloody good though. Have been a constant Grace supporter but this year hasn't brought the biscuits.

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          Two B grade sides that have porous defence, make far too many mistakes and threw it around a bit.

          Even if we won that, it still would’ve been a poor game.

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            @Canes4life said in Waratahs v Crusaders:

            @Canerbry honestly I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a disfunctional Saders side. It’s bloody odd.

            Razor seems to have that Klopp quality how he takes average/good players and makes them look great in his system. And once they leave Klopp's side to go play elsewhere they suffer what looks like a shocking drop-off in form but in reality they just finally play to their actual level.

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            @ruggabee said in Waratahs v Crusaders:

            @Canes4life said in Waratahs v Crusaders:

            @Canerbry honestly I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a disfunctional Saders side. It’s bloody odd.

            Razor seems to have that Klopp quality how he takes average/good players and makes them look great in his system. And once they leave Klopp's side to go play elsewhere they suffer what looks like a shocking drop-off in form but in reality they just finally play to their actual level.

            Missing a decent 10 that can steer the team around. Plus we’ve had quality experience which you need around those average players to get the most out of them. And without Barrett or Whitelock or Mo’unga, we haven’t got much out there.

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            • M Machpants

              How can some one, taking a kick get told by the ref 'you can run the clock out' take the kick before the clock runs out??????????????????????????????????

              I still really don't understand the utter moronitude of that

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              @Machpants he kicked it at 80.01 shows it on the feed.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                Well you can blame that loss on Reihana

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                @Canes4life could hear ref say right before kick, he needed to make the shot clock, not leaving him much time to kick it over. I'd be blaming the restart and intercept that lead to the penalty

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                  Check out the first Waratahs try. How lazy was Grace? Worst defender in the competition.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Check out the first Waratahs try. How lazy was Grace? Worst defender in the competition.

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                    @Tim Absolute lazy fluffybunny. I don't want to see him anywhere near a Black Jersey until he fixes this massive flaw in his game.

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                      Cullen Grace to Blues fans is what Akira Ioane was to Crusaders fans circa 2019 haha.

                      Was that pass from Reece on the inside when he was going out in the lead up to the Lio Willie try not forward?

                      Good game that, the Tahs have been in some great contests this year. We'll played both sides.

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                      • A akan004

                        I'm still shaking my head in disbelief as to what Reihana did. He didn't even have to kick it, they were a point ahead.

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                        @akan004

                        Good point, although he did kick it once the clock was red on the screen.

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                        • A African Monkey

                          Cullen Grace to Blues fans is what Akira Ioane was to Crusaders fans circa 2019 haha.

                          Was that pass from Reece on the inside when he was going out in the lead up to the Lio Willie try not forward?

                          Good game that, the Tahs have been in some great contests this year. We'll played both sides.

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                          @African-Monkey

                          I can’t see Grace adding much to the All Blacks based on what I have seen from him this year.

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                            After watching game , I went to nbed thinking I had just watched a couple of bog standard teams play, and the game's saving grace was score alternating. For Crusaders Reece was full energy bunny, but generally apart from maybe Hannah ,I didn't think any really put hand up. Have to agree with @DaGrubster ,I not sure Grace looks test class, good in lineouts, but fairly average apart from that? Backline just seem flat as f*** to me, headless chooks at time. Defence quite optional.
                            Tahs deserved win, but were hardly a real good team either!

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                              What is the actual law on restart after scoring. Had a quick flick through the laws on line but gave up.

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                                Just further to the above, in the men's 7s last week France tried to forfeit the conversion in order to allow the restart. (But ref ruled try was scored after the hooter.)

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                                  Having just watched the end of the match Berry seems to be saying to Reihana that the stadium clock is correct, which is not always in sync with the TV clock. I noticed that the TV clock kept ticking over when they were checking Lilo-Willie's try. There was about 30 secs wasted there. I'm not absolving Reihana, just adding to the confusion.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Having just watched the end of the match Berry seems to be saying to Reihana that the stadium clock is correct, which is not always in sync with the TV clock. I noticed that the TV clock kept ticking over when they were checking Lilo-Willie's try. There was about 30 secs wasted there. I'm not absolving Reihana, just adding to the confusion.

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                                    @Bovidae it's not like it's pro sports where the clock matters right? Just let it roll baby, don't be bothered with details.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Having just watched the end of the match Berry seems to be saying to Reihana that the stadium clock is correct, which is not always in sync with the TV clock. I noticed that the TV clock kept ticking over when they were checking Lilo-Willie's try. There was about 30 secs wasted there. I'm not absolving Reihana, just adding to the confusion.

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                                      Ruginmel
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                                      @Bovidae my brother inlaw was there at the game, he said Reihana had kicked it after 80th minute so was confused as to why the ref restarted.

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                                        I wouldn't have even kicked it.

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                                        • A akan004

                                          I wouldn't have even kicked it.

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                                          @akan004 said in Waratahs v Crusaders:

                                          I wouldn't have even kicked it.

                                          Yeah I was thinking that myself timed out game over.

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