SR Final - Blues v Chiefs
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@Kirwan said in SR Final - Blues v Chiefs:
@Bones said in SR Final - Blues v Chiefs:
@canefan enjoy the win, the blues had a fucking awesome season and it's been pretty to watch too. You should be proud.
But they weren't playing against international sides.
The point you are missing is we want the ABs to pick a powerful forward pack and play close before going wide.
Instead of the fluffy flair oriented crap from the past four years.
I don't know where I said otherwise.
@Bones said in SR Final - Blues v Chiefs:
@Kirwan said in SR Final - Blues v Chiefs:
@Bones said in SR Final - Blues v Chiefs:
@canefan enjoy the win, the blues had a fucking awesome season and it's been pretty to watch too. You should be proud.
But they weren't playing against international sides.
The point you are missing is we want the ABs to pick a powerful forward pack and play close before going wide.
Instead of the fluffy flair oriented crap from the past four years.
I don't know where I said otherwise.
Well that’s what we were talking about, how about you explain why the Blues game plan wouldn’t work at international level.
Or explain what your post meant. Or keep replying to points nobody is making.
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@Bones said in SR Final - Blues v Chiefs:
A better way to put it - the blues are playing world cup winning rugby just as much as Leinster and La Rochelle were last year.
Nope. The Blues are playing a style that will translate well into test level. It is a classic style that has served the ABs in the past, and will do so again. How is that difficult to understand, or are you deliberately trying to troll us?
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Only about the 3rd game I watched all season but blues were excellent to a man. Fantastic display and just wiped the floor with the chiefs.
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Kicking metres:
Different kicking tactics from the teams. Total kick metres was similar but the Blues used the halfbacks more (which makes sense given the weather) and the Chiefs relied heavily on McKenzie
Also, a few more attacking kicks adding to the variety
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I didn't realize Lam kicked that much. This is good.
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I didn't realize Lam kicked that much. This is good.
Two kicks. I only remember one but guess they both got decent metres
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Finally!
Happy for everyone involved, including the Blues boys on here.
https://i.ibb.co/q0kQ29t/champions.gif
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@Bones said in SR Final - Blues v Chiefs:
@canefan enjoy the win, the blues had a fucking awesome season and it's been pretty to watch too. You should be proud.
But they weren't playing against international sides.
Problem is I live in AKL, but I'm a Canes fan (you know, @canefan?
)@canefan said in SR Final - Blues v Chiefs:
@Bones said in SR Final - Blues v Chiefs:
@canefan enjoy the win, the blues had a fucking awesome season and it's been pretty to watch too. You should be proud.
But they weren't playing against international sides.
Problem is I live in AKL, but I'm a Canes fan (you know, @canefan?
)The road to Damascus?
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Finally!
Happy for everyone involved, including the Blues boys on here.
https://i.ibb.co/q0kQ29t/champions.gif
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Last year Schmidt wasn't available, and it seemed that MacDonald was too busy securing his AB assistant coach position.
Huge difference with Cotter this year was his 100% commitment. Which had to compensate for O’Halloran's early season withdrawal due to illness. They got Tony Brown in for a few weeks as attack coach, but they basically didn't have one for much of the season.
Was necessity the mother of invention?
Did Cotter go super-minimal to compensate?
How much of an un-sung hero was skills coach Halangahu?
How ridiculous is it that Akira Ioane is the best six by a mile in NZ and has to go overseas?
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@KiwiMurph Funnily enough, I ran past one yesterday in Chch which I found strange but funny at the same time.
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The result I feared but the Blues certainly deserved the win and made the Chiefs look very ordinary.
Happy for the Blues fans as it's been a long time between drinks.
The Blues forward pack was just far too good and the marginal tight 5 of the Chiefs just really took a battering. TT starting his first match of the season in the final showing what a mess the Chiefs made of things with their tight 5 development through the season.
Credit to Vern, he had a gameplan in mind at the start of the season with several Blues forwards bulking up and being much more physical and direct. He's got a forward dominated game but they can tick the scoreboard over in increments of 7 instead of 3.
Wayne Smith said that rugby is a complicated game and the best coach's make it simple and that's what Vern's done. It all looks simple but it's extremely effective, teams can't just flood the ruck as that leaves space out wide that the Blues have the weapons and plays to put away and score points, nor can any team seem to be able to stop them going up the middle and making yards. Brutal but effective.
The Chiefs just got beaten up in the tight and seemed to be this year the DMac show without much more substance than that. Yes DMac is a fabulous attacking weapon but there didn't seem much else attack pattern wise the Chiefs used, they need something else and to develop some depth in the tight 5.
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The result I feared but the Blues certainly deserved the win and made the Chiefs look very ordinary.
Happy for the Blues fans as it's been a long time between drinks.
The Blues forward pack was just far too good and the marginal tight 5 of the Chiefs just really took a battering. TT starting his first match of the season in the final showing what a mess the Chiefs made of things with their tight 5 development through the season.
Credit to Vern, he had a gameplan in mind at the start of the season with several Blues forwards bulking up and being much more physical and direct. He's got a forward dominated game but they can tick the scoreboard over in increments of 7 instead of 3.
Wayne Smith said that rugby is a complicated game and the best coach's make it simple and that's what Vern's done. It all looks simple but it's extremely effective, teams can't just flood the ruck as that leaves space out wide that the Blues have the weapons and plays to put away and score points, nor can any team seem to be able to stop them going up the middle and making yards. Brutal but effective.
The Chiefs just got beaten up in the tight and seemed to be this year the DMac show without much more substance than that. Yes DMac is a fabulous attacking weapon but there didn't seem much else attack pattern wise the Chiefs used, they need something else and to develop some depth in the tight 5.
@Windows97 said in SR Final - Blues v Chiefs:
teams can't just flood the ruck as that leaves space out wide that the Blues have the weapons and plays to put away and score points, nor can any team seem to be able to stop them going up the middle and making yards. Brutal but effective.
yep, this. Smash up front and either make metres or suck in defenders. Then go wide. If teams start drifting, then smash up front and make metres.
It is simple, but done right it is very very effective. The old rugby saw 'you gotta earn the right to go wide'
