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Wallabies vs Springboks 2

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  • M Mr Fish

    The truth is that the biggest hindrance to the Springbok's attack has always been their mindset.

    You look at the players they've had over the last two WC cycles - Am, Kolbe, Pollard etc - and they're all guys who can run the ball with the best. Yes, the Boks have had some good success in the WC but they would've been a much better team and done better overall had they embraced the talent they had on the team and better utilised it, rather than opting for the conservative kick-oriented strategies.

    Players like Pollard have gone backwards due to the restrictions imposed on them - look at Tony Brown's comments from this week and he seems to think the same thing (at least with Pollard's regression). This Boks team has basically typically played just good enough to win matches, when they could've been doing so much more.

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    @Mr-Fish said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

    The truth is that the biggest hindrance to the Springbok's attack has always been their mindset.

    You look at the players they've had over the last two WC cycles - Am, Kolbe, Pollard etc - and they're all guys who can run the ball with the best. Yes, the Boks have had some good success in the WC but they would've been a much better team and done better overall had they embraced the talent they had on the team and better utilised it, rather than opting for the conservative kick-oriented strategies.

    Players like Pollard have gone backwards due to the restrictions imposed on them - look at Tony Brown's comments from this week and he seems to think the same thing (at least with Pollard's regression). This Boks team has basically typically played just good enough to win matches, when they could've been doing so much more.

    Or they could have played differently and not won back to back WCs

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      @Mr-Fish said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

      The truth is that the biggest hindrance to the Springbok's attack has always been their mindset.

      You look at the players they've had over the last two WC cycles - Am, Kolbe, Pollard etc - and they're all guys who can run the ball with the best. Yes, the Boks have had some good success in the WC but they would've been a much better team and done better overall had they embraced the talent they had on the team and better utilised it, rather than opting for the conservative kick-oriented strategies.

      Players like Pollard have gone backwards due to the restrictions imposed on them - look at Tony Brown's comments from this week and he seems to think the same thing (at least with Pollard's regression). This Boks team has basically typically played just good enough to win matches, when they could've been doing so much more.

      Or they could have played differently and not won back to back WCs

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      @MiketheSnow the Stormers play running rugby and more then often end up on the losing side when it get to tight games. Still thats the way the Faithful want them to play and the reason for the attendances. Thats why they produce players like Willemse and SFM.

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        @MiketheSnow the Stormers play running rugby and more then often end up on the losing side when it get to tight games. Still thats the way the Faithful want them to play and the reason for the attendances. Thats why they produce players like Willemse and SFM.

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        @OomPB said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

        @MiketheSnow the Stormers play running rugby and more then often end up on the losing side when it get to tight games. Still thats the way the Faithful want them to play and the reason for the attendances. Thats why they produce players like Willemse and SFM.

        Agreed

        But it’s not the only way

        And winners are a combination of many skill sets and strategies

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        • M Mr Fish

          The truth is that the biggest hindrance to the Springbok's attack has always been their mindset.

          You look at the players they've had over the last two WC cycles - Am, Kolbe, Pollard etc - and they're all guys who can run the ball with the best. Yes, the Boks have had some good success in the WC but they would've been a much better team and done better overall had they embraced the talent they had on the team and better utilised it, rather than opting for the conservative kick-oriented strategies.

          Players like Pollard have gone backwards due to the restrictions imposed on them - look at Tony Brown's comments from this week and he seems to think the same thing (at least with Pollard's regression). This Boks team has basically typically played just good enough to win matches, when they could've been doing so much more.

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          @Mr-Fish said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

          This Boks team has basically typically played just good enough to win matches,

          I'm a Wallabies fan.

          Where do I sign?

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            This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

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              wonder if it’s less of a case of treating Australia like Portugal and more of a case of giving Argies the respect they earned?

              It’s a also a helluva way to show the players in your squad you trust them.

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              • W W32

                This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

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                @W32 said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

                Seems a very solid backline and half a very solid forward pack, with a very solid bench. Doesn't seem that ambitious? Hopefully he's more ambitious against the ABs.

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                • W W32

                  This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

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                  @W32 said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                  This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

                  Joe Schmidt has already capped 10 new Wallabies in 4 tests this year. There may be one more for the weekend. The rebuild is on and so Rassie trying a few things is not so risky at this point.

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                    Or just a very different mindset

                    Instead of 'I wonder how player y will go if my favoured player x gets injured?' Rassie is not going to die wondering

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                      @W32 said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                      This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

                      Seems a very solid backline and half a very solid forward pack, with a very solid bench. Doesn't seem that ambitious? Hopefully he's more ambitious against the ABs.

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                      @Bones said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                      @W32 said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                      This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

                      Seems a very solid backline and half a very solid forward pack, with a very solid bench. Doesn't seem that ambitious? Hopefully he's more ambitious against the ABs.

                      7 players in the starting 15 with 5 caps or less

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                        Wow. 10 changes.

                        Thats 2006 Allblacks stuff.

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                        • W W32

                          @Bones said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                          @W32 said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                          This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

                          Seems a very solid backline and half a very solid forward pack, with a very solid bench. Doesn't seem that ambitious? Hopefully he's more ambitious against the ABs.

                          7 players in the starting 15 with 5 caps or less

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                          @W32 said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                          @Bones said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                          @W32 said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                          This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

                          Seems a very solid backline and half a very solid forward pack, with a very solid bench. Doesn't seem that ambitious? Hopefully he's more ambitious against the ABs.

                          7 players in the starting 15 with 5 caps or less

                          Pussy.

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                            I'm backing cohesion this week.

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                              5:3 bench, WTAF? That's against the spirit of rugby, or some similar whine

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                              • W W32

                                This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

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                                @W32 said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                                This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

                                I think SA currently has the depth to do it. This appears to be their version of our 2004-07 squad.

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                                  Its about player management and building depth.

                                  Our URC squad players is now in reconditioning phase. The Springboks in the local teams will get their 8 weeks break after the November NH internationals. The others playing for NH clubs and in Japan need to be manage carefully.

                                  The Springboks have a very experience pool of players and Rassie need to plan their replacements.

                                  The youngsters he selected thus far (BJD, SFM, Louw, Moerat) has been excellent. The others like Fassie, Nortje, Wessels & Grobbies were in excellent URC form. The other changes like Mapimpi, Am, Escom plus the bench are world cup winners.

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                                    Referee for this game will be Paul Williams. He of Nic White oscars fame

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                                      @W32 said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                                      This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

                                      I think SA currently has the depth to do it. This appears to be their version of our 2004-07 squad.

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                                      @antipodean said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                                      @W32 said in Wallabies vs Springboks 2:

                                      This might be a little too ambitious from rassie. He treating Australia like Portugal. If he pulls it off it will be awesome…

                                      I think SA currently has the depth to do it. This appears to be their version of our 2004-07 squad.

                                      Lots to lose though. If they’re trying to win the championship, this is risky. But in the bigger picture, great to be putting new players out there to see what they’re made of.
                                      It’s definitely going to be entertaining!

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                                        https://www.rugby.com.au/news/wallabies-side-to-face-springboks-perth-test-squad-announcement-marika-koroibete-2024815

                                        1 Angus Bell (28 Tests) – Hunters Hill Rugby
                                        2 Josh Nasser (3 Tests) - Easts Tigers
                                        3 Allan Alaalatoa (c) (71 Tests) – West Harbour Juniors
                                        4 Angus Blyth (3 Tests) – Casuarina Beach Rugby Club
                                        5 Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (33 Tests) – Randwick
                                        6 Rob Valetini (43 Tests) – Harlequin Junior Rugby Club
                                        7 Carlo Tizzano (1 Test) - University of Western Australia
                                        8 Harry Wilson (14 Tests) – Gunnedah Red Devils
                                        9 Nic White (68 Tests) – Maitland Blacks
                                        10 Noah Lolesio (20 Tests) – Tuggeranong Vikings
                                        11 Marika Koroibete (59 Tests) – Nasinu Secondary College, Fiji
                                        12 Hunter Paisami (28 Tests) - Harlequin Junior Rugby Club
                                        13 Len Ikitau (30 Tests) – Tuggeranong Vikings
                                        14 Andrew Kellaway (30 Tests) – Hunters Hill Rugby
                                        15 Tom Wright (29 Tests) – Clovelly Eagle

                                        16 Billy Pollard (3 Tests) – Lindfield Junior Rugby Club
                                        17 James Slipper (137 Tests) – Bond Pirates
                                        18 Zane Nonggorr (7 Tests) – Gold Coast Eagles
                                        19 Tom Hooper (9 Tests) – Bathurst Bulldogs
                                        20 Seru Uru* - Wests Bulldogs
                                        21 Tate McDermott (32 Tests) – Flinders Rugby Club
                                        22 Ben Donaldson (9 Tests) – Clovelly Eagles
                                        23 Max Jorgensen* - Balmain Wolves

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                                          My money’s on Mustard this week.

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