All Blacks vs Wallabies 2

[Machpants]

@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Machpants And what did South Africa do against Australia in the second game? They're World Number 1 because they take risks. That side is capable of beating the Number 9 side in the world handsomely.

And some guys have played a lot of minutes already this year. We need to manage their remaining minutes ahead of huge challenges to come at Twickenham, in Dublin and at the Stade de France.

Yes but they were coming from a dominant win on a settled team. We're coming from a huge pile of shit (c.f.)

[KiwiMurph]

The experienced players and so called leaders have sucked in Wellington the last 5 tests or so there

Let the youngsters have a crack. They can hardly do worse

[BerniesCorner]

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Compared to 2-3 years ago they are creating much more opportunities to score tries.

But not when it matters - like in the second half.

Strong leadership would sort a lot of this out. Calm TF down.

We have regressed. Back to where we were on the EOYT a couple of years ago

Even GOAT took a year or three to warm to the job

[brodean]

@sparky

There's a lack of leadership and combination in your selection.

[canefan]

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Victor-Meldrew nah man. So chuck in Plummer with Hotham at halfback and Jacobson at 8, Havili at 12? Doesn't sound like a fair chance to me.

Oh, I'm not saying go that far. More like start Proctor to see how he goes with JB, give Hotham and Plummer some game time and maybe LJ at 7 (he was pretty good there in SR)

Just not all at the same time. You wont learn anything about Plummer or Proctor unless they get a run with the starters

[Mr Fish]

Suspect we'll see something along the lines of:

1 De Groot
2 Aumua
3 Lomax
4 Barrett
5 Vaa'i
6 Sititi
7 Cane
8 Savea
9 Ratima
10 McKenzie
11 Clarke
12 Lienert-Brown
13 Ioane
14 Jordan
15 Perofeta

Bench: Taylor/Bell, Williams, Tosi, Darry, Blackadder, Hotham, Plummer, Proctor

Aumua needs a start under his belt to get a little bit of momentum. Cane will get his 100th. If Jordie Barrett is out then can't see them swapping out Ioane too, so it's an ALB /Ioane midfield with Proctor getting a shot off the bench. Can't see the point in using Tele'a or Reece on the right wing so Jordan shifts out there and Perofeta makes his return at fullback (though you have to wonder why he wasn't used on the bench ahead of Plummer, or starting at fullback already, and also didn't get a run for Taranaki - is he still injured and the coaches aren't being forthcoming?). Give Hotham and Plummer minutues off the bench too, and then maybe start them together against Japan.

[SBW1]

What happened to Beauden, is he right to go in Wellington?

[Machpants]

@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

What happened to Beauden, is he right to go in Wellington?

Illness, and hopefully not

[canefan]

@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

What happened to Beauden, is he right to go in Wellington?

Illness, and hopefully not

If JB is also out, could we see some time with Plummer at 10, and Proctor in MF?

[SBW1]

Will Sevu get dropped for Telea? Surely Sotutu gets the nod.

[Frank]

@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Will Sevu get dropped for Telea? Surely Sotutu gets the nod.

Telea is worse than Sevu and Sotutu isn't even in the squad.
Well done, two atrocious takes, a true nuffie post. (I'm proud of you)

[brodean]

I thought Jacobson was a lot better than Cane yesterday.

Cane's defense wasn't even Super Rugby standard yesterday.

Not sure why people are calling for Cane to start again.

I don't recall a NZ 7 making so little tackles and missing so many in Super Rugby game this year.

[Bovidae]

@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

I thought Jacobson was a lot better than Cane yesterday.

Cane's defense wasn't even Super Rugby standard yesterday.

7 tackles, no misses in 17 mins plus the ruck turnover. Cane only made 5 tackles with three misses before being replaced.

[brodean]

@Bovidae

Cane missed 3 according to RugbyPass stats.

One of those of course resulted in a try.

[Bovidae]

@brodean Yes, a typo and have corrected.

[kpkanz]

@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Machpants And what did South Africa do against Australia in the second game? They're World Number 1 because they take risks. That side is capable of beating the Number 9 side in the world handsomely.

And some guys have played a lot of minutes already this year. We need to manage their remaining minutes ahead of huge challenges to come at Twickenham, in Dublin and at the Stade de France.

That world beating SA side just lost to Argentina, a team Australia managed to beat just a fortnight ago.

It's difficult to gauge where the other TRC teams are right now (apart from SA) as they're all transitioning with new coaching teams.

[Duluth]

@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Not sure why people are calling for Cane to start again.

Emotions. 100th Test etc

[brodean]

@Duluth

I remember a time when players were ruthlessly dropped from the AB's when they weren't performing.

Buck Shelford never played that bad.

[MN5]

With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

[brodean]

The games I've seen Proctor play at 12 have been good but it will be ALB at 12.