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All Blacks vs Wallabies 2

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    Aside from which - compared with the team that played the RWC Final (which, with a bit of quibbling, most sane people thought was pretty much our best), we've made 14 changes to the 23 (a couple of which are positional). That's quite a bit of change 7 tests later.

    wait on, i know you're playing the straight guy here, but that is hugely overdoing it

    if you take their current "top" side as evidenced by the week to week selections the teams are almost identical except where the player from 2023 left.
    A change at left wing.
    A change at bench halfback
    A change at bench loose forward.
    The 2nd back reserve has been a rotating name, so you could call that a change too.

    Otherwise it's changes for Mo'unga, Smith, Frizzell, Retallic, Whitelock and Laulala.

    And given the extensive chat from the coaches, you would imagine that two of those guys would be in if they were allowed.

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    @mariner4life I've miscounted - it's 13 changes - right wing is new, and Jordan has shifted to fullback. Aumua is the bench hooker.

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      #452

      If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
      We only just lost to a good SA side.
      The only bad loss being Argentina I
      I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
      Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?

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      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

        If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
        We only just lost to a good SA side.
        The only bad loss being Argentina I
        I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
        Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?

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        #453

        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

        If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
        We only just lost to a good SA side.
        The only bad loss being Argentina I
        I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
        Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?

        Then I'm in the minority.

        The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.

        Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.

        That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.

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        • gt12G gt12

          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
          We only just lost to a good SA side.
          The only bad loss being Argentina I
          I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
          Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?

          Then I'm in the minority.

          The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.

          Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.

          That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.

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          @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
          We only just lost to a good SA side.
          The only bad loss being Argentina I
          I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
          Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?

          Then I'm in the minority.

          The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.

          Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.

          That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.

          #metoo. It's been a shit show with once again injury being our best selector. 50-0 in the last 20 is unacceptable. Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out

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          • gt12G gt12

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

            If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
            We only just lost to a good SA side.
            The only bad loss being Argentina I
            I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
            Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?

            Then I'm in the minority.

            The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.

            Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.

            That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.

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            @gt12 The last 20 minutes disappointing, no doubt.

            On the other hand against a good SA side players like Williams, Vaai, Sititi, Ratima did real well, even exceeded expectations.

            In hindsight perhaps even more new players like Perofeta, Love, Proctor, Sotutu should have been tested.

            Certainly Caketin 2 feels like a senior send off

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            • No QuarterN Online
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              No Quarter
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              @BerniesCorner the fact you started with "if we win" when we are playing the 10th ranked side at home shows what a shit show this season has been so far

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              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
                We only just lost to a good SA side.
                The only bad loss being Argentina I
                I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
                Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?

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                #457

                @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
                We only just lost to a good SA side.
                The only bad loss being Argentina I

                nah I'm in the 'not happy' club. Dropping that home game was unforgiveable.

                Reality is we sneaked home vs England, got run over twice at the back end of SA games (doing to us what we used to do to them) - and then looked awful in the second 40 vs Aus.

                Some green shoots, but they could be hit by frost. We're on track to lose up 5-6 games this year .. and that is just unacceptable.

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                • BerniesCornerB Offline
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                  I'll get my coat

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                    If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
                    We only just lost to a good SA side.
                    The only bad loss being Argentina I
                    I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
                    Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?

                    Then I'm in the minority.

                    The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.

                    Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.

                    That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.

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                    #459

                    @gt12 agree mate, although it maybe fact, I can never accept where we lose a few tests in year as better than OK!
                    Not saying I don't understand the reality or anything, just how I always feel, any loss is not end of the world, but disappointing none the less.
                    One of reasons I don't go with the lets bring in all the young uns for the future, these are all still test matches!

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                    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                      @gt12 The last 20 minutes disappointing, no doubt.

                      On the other hand against a good SA side players like Williams, Vaai, Sititi, Ratima did real well, even exceeded expectations.

                      In hindsight perhaps even more new players like Perofeta, Love, Proctor, Sotutu should have been tested.

                      Certainly Caketin 2 feels like a senior send off

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                      #460

                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                      Certainly Caketin 2 feels like a senior send off

                      Caketin 2: Wheelchairs of Destiny.

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                      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                        I'll get my coat

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                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                        I'll get my coat

                        nah screw it I'll run a poll! See where the majority are

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                          https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/529236/all-blacks-v-australia-has-robertson-missed-an-opportunity

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                          • M Machpants

                            https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/529236/all-blacks-v-australia-has-robertson-missed-an-opportunity

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                            @Machpants

                            Reads the fern.

                            I havent even read the article and I can bet what it says.

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                              @gt12 agree mate, although it maybe fact, I can never accept where we lose a few tests in year as better than OK!
                              Not saying I don't understand the reality or anything, just how I always feel, any loss is not end of the world, but disappointing none the less.
                              One of reasons I don't go with the lets bring in all the young uns for the future, these are all still test matches!

                              The results are disappointing because he keeps selecting the same underperforming players with the same results, and won't give form SR players a proper trial run. And undeserving Saders homeboys to bulk out the squad

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                              @canefan RD ride the pine refresh, super sub

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                              • M Machpants

                                https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/529236/all-blacks-v-australia-has-robertson-missed-an-opportunity

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                                @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/529236/all-blacks-v-australia-has-robertson-missed-an-opportunity

                                A hopefully healthy Ethan Blackadder on the blind and Will Jordan transitioning to fullback….

                                I can’t wait til @Bones reads this article

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                                  The All Blacks marketing team are trying to make a big thing about this being "TJ Perenera's last start for the team."

                                  I don't give a fuck.

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                    If we win this one I think most people will be happy heading to the EOYT.
                                    We only just lost to a good SA side.
                                    The only bad loss being Argentina I
                                    I'm frustrated Proctor and Love haven't had more game time. The backline could certainly do with some more attacking options.
                                    Hopefully we can find a quick 7. Lakai EOYT ?

                                    Then I'm in the minority.

                                    The results are only OK - they really should have won one of those games in SA.

                                    Our attack (early) looks good but we can't finish games strongly. The lack of points in the last 30 - as a pattern - is a huge concern.

                                    That has to be addressed or we are going to get run over by teams.

                                    #metoo. It's been a shit show with once again injury being our best selector. 50-0 in the last 20 is unacceptable. Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out

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                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                    Razor had a ton of goodwill, he should've used it to grow the future, losses would be accepted. Instead we have cane, undropable Ardie, TJ, BB at ten, havili, and some of SR best players left right out

                                    That summarises my pissed-off feeling too. I think there's a real risk we'll have the worst of both worlds - wasted a year of potential development and lost a heap of games.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/529236/all-blacks-v-australia-has-robertson-missed-an-opportunity

                                      A hopefully healthy Ethan Blackadder on the blind and Will Jordan transitioning to fullback….

                                      I can’t wait til @Bones reads this article

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                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      hopefully healthy

                                      "Hopefully Healthy" sounds like a good moniker for Blackadder

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                                        Bloody great day in the nations beautiful capital today. Reasonably warm for Wellington ( I’ve got one of my less thick hoodies on today ) barely a breath of wind…..perfect for the All Blacks to either hammer the Wallabies or trip up yet again at the Caketin.

                                        I’ve got the porterhouse and home brew ready for tonight !

                                        Game fucken on !!!!!!

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          Bloody great day in the nations beautiful capital today. Reasonably warm for Wellington ( I’ve got one of my less thick hoodies on today ) barely a breath of wind…..perfect for the All Blacks to either hammer the Wallabies or trip up yet again at the Caketin.

                                          I’ve got the porterhouse and home brew ready for tonight !

                                          Game fucken on !!!!!!

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                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                          Bloody great day in the nations beautiful capital today. Reasonably warm for Wellington ( I’ve got one of my less thick hoodies on today ) barely a breath of wind…..perfect for the All Blacks to either hammer the Wallabies or trip up yet again at the Caketin.

                                          I’ve got the porterhouse and home brew ready for tonight !

                                          Game fucken on !!!!!!

                                          Enjoy

                                          The steak 😉

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