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All Blacks vs Wallabies 2

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  • gt12G gt12

    How good to have two bench props who can cover ground and get turnovers? Williams and Tosi should have locked in the bench spot - arguably Williams should be in line for the start.

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    @gt12

    I wouldn't be surprised if Tosi has won more turnovers than Blackadder has for the AB's despite the difference in game time.

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    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

      @Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.

      They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.

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      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      @Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.

      They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.

      LJ much more of an impact tackler.

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      • NTAN NTA

        The ABs won, and probably would have won without those couple of lapses by the Wallabies, however I think this AB team is papering over cracks, and running out of glue.

        1. Your scrum got slapped around by a guy on one leg. I think perhaps you're missing a big grunter with technical nous in your second row.

        2. I thought - besides Sititi's tearing runs - your backrow got outplayed. Savea did a couple of nice things but you surely can't keep Cane on.

        3. Your defensive lineout is good. Attacking lineout generally OK but if the 10th ranked team is picking you off, the top 6N sides are going to be licking their lips.

        4. This helter-skelter bullshit in general play isn't going to cut it against top opponents with patience and cohesion. There aren't many guys in the starting 8 who are rolling up their sleeves and smashing blokes TBH. I don't think the ABs were dominant in contact as many times as the scoreline might otherwise suggest.

        I think Razor needs to be a bit honest with himself and his coaching panel and get these blokes to knuckle down or fuck off.

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        @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

        The ABs won, and probably would have won without those couple of lapses by the Wallabies, however I think this AB team is papering over cracks, and running out of glue.

        1. Your scrum got slapped around by a guy on one leg. I think perhaps you're missing a big grunter with technical nous in your second row.

        2. I thought - besides Sititi's tearing runs - your backrow got outplayed. Savea did a couple of nice things but you surely can't keep Cane on.

        3. Your defensive lineout is good. Attacking lineout generally OK but if the 10th ranked team is picking you off, the top 6N sides are going to be licking their lips.

        4. This helter-skelter bullshit in general play isn't going to cut it against top opponents with patience and cohesion. There aren't many guys in the starting 8 who are rolling up their sleeves and smashing blokes TBH. I don't think the ABs were dominant in contact as many times as the scoreline might otherwise suggest.

        I think Razor needs to be a bit honest with himself and his coaching panel and get these blokes to knuckle down or fuck off.

        EDG seemed far from his best. I wonder if his neck injury is still impeding him.

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        • P pakman

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          @Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.

          They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.

          LJ much more of an impact tackler.

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          @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          @Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.

          They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.

          LJ much more of an impact tackler.

          lead dominate tackling with 3 for both side according to rugbypass

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          • P pakman

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

            @Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

            Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.

            They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.

            LJ much more of an impact tackler.

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            @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

            @Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

            Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.

            They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.

            LJ much more of an impact tackler.

            From memory he was one of the leaders in Super rugby.

            I think his best spot at International level is at 7. He could be the option for the 7 shirt for the EOYT.

            I don’t know what Paps has done but he’s clearly out in the cold.

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            • gt12G gt12

              @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

              @Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

              Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.

              They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.

              LJ much more of an impact tackler.

              From memory he was one of the leaders in Super rugby.

              I think his best spot at International level is at 7. He could be the option for the 7 shirt for the EOYT.

              I don’t know what Paps has done but he’s clearly out in the cold.

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              @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

              I don’t know what Paps has done

              Tubby Ryan finally clicked he's from the Blues too ...

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                I don’t know what Paps has done

                Tubby Ryan finally clicked he's from the Blues too ...

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                @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                I don’t know what Paps has done

                Tubby Ryan finally clicked he's from the Blues too ...

                I find it quite difficult to get a guage on Paps because for some reason I have difficulty seeing him in games. It even happens when I make an effort to look out for him. He needs a big bushy beard or something so he stands out.

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                • M Machpants

                  @kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                  We look like we can score at will. But our D is soft and and scrum is ineffective.

                  Yeah what has happened to our scrum???

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                  @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                  @kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                  We look like we can score at will. But our D is soft and and scrum is ineffective.

                  Yeah what has happened to our scrum???

                  Poor refereeing. Tupou can't take a hit, folds like a bitch and as a result EdG overextends. Tupou should be penalised off the park for intentionally collapsing.

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    Cane has the worst dummy pass in international rugby.

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                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                    Cane has the worst dummy pass in international rugby.

                    Worse than Ardie's stupid fake pass?

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                      Cane has the worst dummy pass in international rugby.

                      Worse than Ardie's stupid fake pass?

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                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                      Cane has the worst dummy pass in international rugby.

                      Worse than Ardie's stupid fake pass?

                      Ardie's worked once, didn't it?

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        why is Cane still there?

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                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                        why is Cane still there?

                        Because Sititi can't do it all by himself.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          A proper 9 qnd 10

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                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                          A proper 9 qnd 10

                          TJ and Beaudy were everything we feared in this game. Especially TJ - absolute dogshit.

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                          • gt12G gt12

                            Thanks Sam, you were great, but 100 and out I’d say. Just not up with the play effectively enough and we need more than a full time cleaner at 7.

                            I think the rugby pod is correct and that Blackadder will get the 7 shirt next, but it will be interesting to see if they bring in Lakai.

                            I’d consider bringing along the young Waikato kid as an apprentice - although he might be a year away from that. He’ll be an AB though, I’m sure of it.

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                            @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                            I’d consider bringing along the young Waikato kid as an apprentice - although he might be a year away from that. He’ll be an AB though, I’m sure of it.

                            Who is that? Not watching NPC.

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                              @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                              I’d consider bringing along the young Waikato kid as an apprentice - although he might be a year away from that. He’ll be an AB though, I’m sure of it.

                              Who is that? Not watching NPC.

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                              @Frank

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                              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                Tosi is a monster, fuck he's good

                                Sititi, Tosi, Hotham, Darry, Ratima, Proctor didn’t fluff their lines when given their chances.

                                And our experienced guys stank the place up.

                                Savea and SB and Taylor (good all year) were ok tonight.

                                Savea was very average. But I was more talking about TJ, cane, and BB.

                                Not Savea of old but he had some good carries and I think put in quite a few tackles (haven't seen the stats).

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                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                Tosi is a monster, fuck he's good

                                Sititi, Tosi, Hotham, Darry, Ratima, Proctor didn’t fluff their lines when given their chances.

                                And our experienced guys stank the place up.

                                Savea and SB and Taylor (good all year) were ok tonight.

                                Savea was very average. But I was more talking about TJ, cane, and BB.

                                Not Savea of old but he had some good carries and I think put in quite a few tackles (haven't seen the stats).

                                LOL. He was practically anonymous. Laughable that he gets to start at 8.

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                                  It’s the 2nd week in a row that a Wallaby has scored off a weak Ardie tackle attempt on the goal line. A weak shoulder on Paisami last week and awful body height v McReight last night

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                                    Cane missed at least one tackle for failing to cover the channel from a lineout. So we are lacking speed on defence. The Wallabies seemed to run through us far too easily, something the Boks had a harder time doing generally

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      Tosi is a monster, fuck he's good

                                      Sititi, Tosi, Hotham, Darry, Ratima, Proctor didn’t fluff their lines when given their chances.

                                      And our experienced guys stank the place up.

                                      Savea and SB and Taylor (good all year) were ok tonight.

                                      Savea was very average. But I was more talking about TJ, cane, and BB.

                                      Not Savea of old but he had some good carries and I think put in quite a few tackles (haven't seen the stats).

                                      LOL. He was practically anonymous. Laughable that he gets to start at 8.

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                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      Not Savea of old but he had some good carries and I think put in quite a few tackles (haven't seen the stats).

                                      LOL. He was practically anonymous. Laughable that he gets to start at 8.

                                      19 tackles. https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-australia-bledisloe-cup-ii/
                                      I wouldn't have chosen him to start at 8 but he wasn't terrible.

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        Cane missed at least one tackle for failing to cover the channel from a lineout. So we are lacking speed on defence. The Wallabies seemed to run through us far too easily, something the Boks had a harder time doing generally

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                                        @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                        Cane missed at least one tackle for failing to cover the channel from a lineout. So we are lacking speed on defence. The Wallabies seemed to run through us far too easily, something the Boks had a harder time doing generally

                                        I think he alluded to it in the post match chat with Joey Wheeler that he's too slow.

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                          Not Savea of old but he had some good carries and I think put in quite a few tackles (haven't seen the stats).

                                          LOL. He was practically anonymous. Laughable that he gets to start at 8.

                                          19 tackles. https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-australia-bledisloe-cup-ii/
                                          I wouldn't have chosen him to start at 8 but he wasn't terrible.

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                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                          Not Savea of old but he had some good carries and I think put in quite a few tackles (haven't seen the stats).

                                          LOL. He was practically anonymous. Laughable that he gets to start at 8.

                                          19 tackles. https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-australia-bledisloe-cup-ii/
                                          I wouldn't have chosen him to start at 8 but he wasn't terrible.

                                          Does that soft piece of shit on the try line where McReight went over him count in the 19?

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