Blues v Hurricanes
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Collins again in an NZ derby got exposed. He has improved during the season but his error rate is way too high.
Long term the Blues need to give Perofeta some gametime this season. Same with Nock.
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Hurricanes:
Collins again in an NZ derby got exposed. He has improved during the season but his error rate is way too high.
Long term the Blues need to give Perofeta some gametime this season. Same with Nock.
When is Nock back from injury?
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@Bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
And can I say what a relief that TJ wasn't the commentator.
Yep, was good to hear Sumo calling out the weaknesses in the Blues game, laying into the lack of continuity and turnovers and not getting whinged at.
Luatua outplayed Savea who was pretty disappointing i thought, completely missing on that last blues try.
Williams outplayed by Laumape, what a muppet play not feeding Nanai on that break. Canes definitely missed Proctor though.
Congratulations to Barrett on getting through a half of rugby without seeing a card.
Jordie's set piece kicking is ace eh, but his phase kicking is a bit naff.
Jane should have been on at half time at least...
Have no problem with a commentator calling what he sees, just irritating when it's wrapped in a condescending tone and he doesn't apply it to the other team.
TJ is terrible when he gets a Blues game.
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BB is unbelievable. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a 10 as influential as he is for the Canes.
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@ACT-Crusader What does it matter? He was offside and on the ground.
@Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@ACT-Crusader What does it matter? He was offside and on the ground.
I'm not disputing the YC call. They were saying it was a deliberate knock down. It wasn't. Even the replay showed he grabbed the arm.
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@Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@ACT-Crusader What does it matter? He was offside and on the ground.
I'm not disputing the YC call. They were saying it was a deliberate knock down. It wasn't. Even the replay showed he grabbed the arm.
@ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@ACT-Crusader What does it matter? He was offside and on the ground.
I'm not disputing the YC call. They were saying it was a deliberate knock down. It wasn't. Even the replay showed he grabbed the arm.
Let's say you are right (you aren't), he was off his feet, part of the ruck and played the halfback to stop out attack in the red zone. A few paths to the YC.
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@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
BB is unbelievable. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a 10 as influential as he is for the Canes.
Mr Carter?
@canefan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
BB is unbelievable. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a 10 as influential as he is for the Canes.
Mr Carter?
Carter was also amazing, but he wasn't as influential as BB is. Barrett seems to appear out of no-where to field kicks, make tackles, give away try saving fouls, take intercepts, chip kick to himself (and on and on). Things just happen when he is anywhere near the ball.
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@canefan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
BB is unbelievable. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a 10 as influential as he is for the Canes.
Mr Carter?
Carter was also amazing, but he wasn't as influential as BB is. Barrett seems to appear out of no-where to field kicks, make tackles, give away try saving fouls, take intercepts, chip kick to himself (and on and on). Things just happen when he is anywhere near the ball.
@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@canefan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
BB is unbelievable. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a 10 as influential as he is for the Canes.
Mr Carter?
Carter was also amazing, but he wasn't as influential as BB is. Barrett seems to appear out of no-where to field kicks, make tackles, give away try saving fouls, take intercepts, chip kick to himself (and on and on). Things just happen when he is anywhere near the ball.
He has become a total freak. I find myself expecting us to score almost everytime he touches the ball, from anywhere
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@kiwiinmelb What were they saying? The bottom line is that he hasn't produced wins against NZ teams, and hasn't recruited a 10.
@Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kiwiinmelb What were they saying? The bottom line is that he hasn't produced wins against NZ teams, and hasn't recruited a 10.
Just saying , he still isnt getting the results , still the worst team in NZ blah blah blah
Led by Phil gifford I think it was ,
I just think if you believe they are improving , you have to be careful throwing out the baby with the bathwater , when you dont know where that improvement stops
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@Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kiwiinmelb What were they saying? The bottom line is that he hasn't produced wins against NZ teams, and hasn't recruited a 10.
Just saying , he still isnt getting the results , still the worst team in NZ blah blah blah
Led by Phil gifford I think it was ,
I just think if you believe they are improving , you have to be careful throwing out the baby with the bathwater , when you dont know where that improvement stops
@kiwiinmelb That's the other side of the coin - he'd look like a lot better coach if he had a top notch number 10. As Graham Henry used to say, "It's a lot easier to coach a team with McCaw and Carter in it."
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@canefan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
BB is unbelievable. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a 10 as influential as he is for the Canes.
Mr Carter?
Carter was also amazing, but he wasn't as influential as BB is. Barrett seems to appear out of no-where to field kicks, make tackles, give away try saving fouls, take intercepts, chip kick to himself (and on and on). Things just happen when he is anywhere near the ball.
@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@canefan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
BB is unbelievable. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a 10 as influential as he is for the Canes.
Mr Carter?
Carter was also amazing, but he wasn't as influential as BB is. Barrett seems to appear out of no-where to field kicks, make tackles, give away try saving fouls, take intercepts, chip kick to himself (and on and on). Things just happen when he is anywhere near the ball.
Carter also never played for the Canes to his immense detriment
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No shame in losing like that as often as it happens to us. Beauden Barrett was pure magic tonight as has been stated by everyone. Dare I say that we're not a bad side, unfortunately for the Blues the other 4 NZ sides are on another level.
Pleased with our 2nd row. They were everywhere and probably our best tonight. Gibson and Luatua were also very good. Francis was terrible. Maybe Gatland to start in our next match if West isn't back?
Oh well, as we say every season, there's always next year.
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Canes fans will remember the days of Gopperth v Carter (or Mehrts). That's what it was like for the Blues tonight.
An awesome 10 can make a hell of a lot difference to a team and BB was the man tonight.
I think the Blues are a decent team. They're just the worst of the NZ teams at the moment, in the past the Highlanders and Chiefs held that title for a long time and they've both turned it around to become regular finalists.
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Canes fans will remember the days of Gopperth v Carter (or Mehrts). That's what it was like for the Blues tonight.
An awesome 10 can make a hell of a lot difference to a team and BB was the man tonight.
I think the Blues are a decent team. They're just the worst of the NZ teams at the moment, in the past the Highlanders and Chiefs held that title for a long time and they've both turned it around to become regular finalists.
@Nepia said in Blues v Hurricanes:
Canes fans will remember the days of Gopperth v Carter (or Mehrts). That's what it was like for the Blues tonight.
An awesome 10 can make a hell of a lot difference to a team and BB was the man tonight.
I think the Blues are a decent team. They're just the worst of the NZ teams at the moment, in the past the Highlanders and Chiefs held that title for a long time and they've both turned it around to become regular finalists.
I think this blues team is possibly the best worst team we have had
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@ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@ACT-Crusader What does it matter? He was offside and on the ground.
I'm not disputing the YC call. They were saying it was a deliberate knock down. It wasn't. Even the replay showed he grabbed the arm.
Let's say you are right (you aren't), he was off his feet, part of the ruck and played the halfback to stop out attack in the red zone. A few paths to the YC.
@Kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@ACT-Crusader What does it matter? He was offside and on the ground.
I'm not disputing the YC call. They were saying it was a deliberate knock down. It wasn't. Even the replay showed he grabbed the arm.
Let's say you are right (you aren't), he was off his feet, part of the ruck and played the halfback to stop out attack in the red zone. A few paths to the YC.
He isn't disputing the YC. I don't think anyone is. But to say he got a 3rd yellow card for a deliberate knock on is fake news. His crime was being offside and he rightly got carded because Blues were hot on attack.
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I said last week that I hoped BB would miss the game, but I'm bloody glad he didn't now! Talk about being the difference between the 2 teams.
I've had a serious man crush on BB for several seasons now, but this is almost getting too hot to handle. Fark me what a player. Bad miss on SBW but he sure lined him up after that. Yellow card thing is becoming a concern though...
I really like the Blues but your kingdom for a decent 9 and 10. A lower error rate would help too. But damn, if this team does sneak into the finals they could cause some serious damage. Duffy has to be an ab this year.
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Made a last minute decision to jump on the train and take the boy to his first Super game.
Was a good crowd in, created a great atmosphere and they got their moneys worth despite the loss.
The first half was awesome, both teams playing great footy. Things tightened up in the 2nd 40 and when the Blues went ahead I was sure they would push on, but they probably lack a bit leadership in the final 20 to put games like that away, which comes back to their 10.
Anyway a few things I noted...
Canes really missed Proctor at 13, it is pretty clear the positive influence he has on Laumape, who while running strongly was a bit lost and lacked vision.
Another player that lacks vision is SBW, who is very much a one-tricky pony, the trick being take the contact and look for an offload, even when an obvious and simple draw and pass would put his outside away. I noticed it when he was playing 7s too, always looking for the contact/offload instead of passing to the man in space. That's really not the attributes you want in a test 12, so if he must be in the ABs I hope he doesn't start.
Beauden is something else. MOTM by a country mile, and if I'm being honest if he's in a Blue jersey tonight they win that game pretty comfortably. As noted by @Nepia after years and years of sub-standard 10s at the Canes I am absolutely savouring having him there. Can feel Blues fans pain in that regard.
Also mentioned by @Nepia is how quick Rieko is. Watching him chase BB live he was gaining on him but dived too early. May not have got him anyway but fuck he's good to watch in full flight, can see why the AB selectors like him.
The ball didn't go J Savea's way tonight but for such an experienced AB I expected him to impose himself a lot more. As @hydro11 mentioned he's actually been very good this year, I think the break last week was bad for him - the more he plays the better he gets.
Anyway I'm probably rambling a bit now but there's really nothing between the NZ teams again this year, while SA and Aus go through their struggles our teams are going from strength to strength. There's a heap of great work going on behind the scenes across all of NZ to make that happen - long may it continue.
