Blues vs. Chiefs
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@Stargazer I misphrased it. He is a very promising young player (would love it if the Blues signed him), and is developing well (continues to perform very well for his age), but by All Black standards (for 2017 selection) he's hasn't had a good year.
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@Tim I don't think anyone has been suggesting he should be playing for the ABs this year, or even next year. What people have been saying is that he has all the potential to become a good All Black hooker in the future. Personally, I have suggested that - considering the relative lack of depth at hooker (Coltman is pretty average, Parsons is shit as an AB hooker, Harris is very injury prone) - it would be a good idea to bring him in the AB environment sooner rather than later (as an apprentice) to learn as much as he can, as soon as he can, to prime him for when multiple injuries strike again.
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@Tim said in Blues vs. Chiefs:
@Stargazer I misphrased it. He is a very promising young player (would love it if the Blues signed him), and is developing well (continues to perform very well for his age), but by All Black standards (for 2017 selection) he's hasn't had a good year.
He's in danger of being the next Rhys Marshall, whose career went downhill after he left the Magpies ....
Our hooking stocks aren't great if Coltman is in the frame (I may have mentioned this once or twice before).
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@Stargazer Those lineout stats are surprising to me - in that they suggest that pretty much every team wins nine out of ten lineouts on their own throw.
My perception from watching would have been that even the very best lineouts would only win about 8/10.
I wonder at what point they call the lineout "won"?
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@Stargazer said in Blues vs. Chiefs:
@Tim I don't think anyone has been suggesting he should be playing for the ABs this year, or even next year. What people have been saying is that he has all the potential to become a good All Black hooker in the future. Personally, I have suggested that - considering the relative lack of depth at hooker (Coltman is pretty average, Parsons is shit as an AB hooker, Harris is very injury prone) - it would be a good idea to bring him in the AB environment sooner rather than later (as an apprentice) to learn as much as he can, as soon as he can, to prime him for when multiple injuries strike again.
How do you judge someone's selection worth on being "injury prone"?
Unless they show a repeating tendency to technically do something poorly that causes injuries, it is just bad luck.
Saying "let's not invest in this guy because he gets injured " is silly and I think you'll find the AB selectors think the same. -
@Crucial This wasn't about "selection worth". I didn't mention Harris being injury prone as a reason for not selecting him. It was about the need (in my view) to prep a talent like Riccitelli for AB duties in case Harris (or other AB hookers) is injured. Read the last part of my paragraph!
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@Stargazer said in Blues vs. Chiefs:
@Crucial This wasn't about "selection worth". I didn't mention Harris being injury prone as a reason for not selecting him. It was about the need (in my view) to prep a talent like Riccitelli for AB duties in case Harris (or other AB hookers) is injured. Read the last part of my paragraph!
fair enough. Reading comprehension at 6am not all it should be.
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@Crucial said in Blues vs. Chiefs:
DMac putting his hand up bigtime for a utility spot. He has taken control of things for the Chiefs and not just with broken running. Great decision making and kicking.
If for some bizarre reason he doesn't get selected, I'll adopt him so he can play for Wales
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@MiketheSnow said in Blues vs. Chiefs:
@Crucial said in Blues vs. Chiefs:
DMac putting his hand up bigtime for a utility spot. He has taken control of things for the Chiefs and not just with broken running. Great decision making and kicking.
If for some bizarre reason he doesn't get selected, I'll adopt him so he can play for Wales
Not Damian, but you can have Marty
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Did I miss comments on Chiefs scrum? Hames had Charlie F in real trouble a couple of times, something one doesn't often see. Laulala also seemed to shade Tu-ungafasi, who I thought didn't go badly. Pat T didn't show much. Neither did Bird, who was not amused when substituted on 53! Thought Blues loosies again were the more impressive. Cane seemed to me somewhat of a one man band.
Interesting that Crusaders top the table, with perhaps 9 All black forwards, but only two backs.
