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Blues v BI Lions

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    Just watched that last line out again for a laugh and I think the hooker is being hard done by copping the blame for that. The Lions come into line late and Itoje makes a call to himself while Marler is no where near ready. Whether Itoje should have checked or Marler should have been ready is kind of a moot point. They were the ones that fucked it up.
    The call was clearly to Itoje and if the lifters had got him up quick enough the throw was fine the front two line out players had peeled around to start the maul.
    Looks like it was Marlers fault to me. he wasn't paying attention

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    @Crucial it looked to me like they made the call before they got to the line out. The advantage to this is everyone knows what is happening in advance. The problem is, without the call to go off as usual, everyone's timing gets thrown out. Players get used to the rhythm of how the set piece works, and you need to stick to it.

    I called line outs for a long time, and learned early on, even when you get the chance to call early, still call it at the line like usual. Otherwise you would be astounded how often even a simple play gets fucked up. For a composit team that need for the prompts would be even greater

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      @Crucial it looked to me like they made the call before they got to the line out. The advantage to this is everyone knows what is happening in advance. The problem is, without the call to go off as usual, everyone's timing gets thrown out. Players get used to the rhythm of how the set piece works, and you need to stick to it.

      I called line outs for a long time, and learned early on, even when you get the chance to call early, still call it at the line like usual. Otherwise you would be astounded how often even a simple play gets fucked up. For a composit team that need for the prompts would be even greater

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      @mariner4life said in Blues v BI Lions:

      @Crucial it looked to me like they made the call before they got to the line out. The advantage to this is everyone knows what is happening in advance. The problem is, without the call to go off as usual, everyone's timing gets thrown out. Players get used to the rhythm of how the set piece works, and you need to stick to it.

      I called line outs for a long time, and learned early on, even when you get the chance to call early, still call it at the line like usual. Otherwise you would be astounded how often even a simple play gets fucked up. For a composit team that need for the prompts would be even greater

      You can see Itoje calling to the hooker just before the throw so he is probably doing just what you say.
      The set up timing may have been out for Marler as there was a delay while an extra ball was removed from the field. Nonetheless he wasn't ready to lift when Itoje called.
      Just think blaming the hooker for that is harsh. His throw looks to go spot on to where Itoje was meant to be.

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      • pukunuiP pukunui

        Woooo awesome win for the Blues and NZ rugby in general.

        Others have mentioned it but Ioane, SBW and Luatua were the best on the park.
        Great to see SBW find some form before the tests.
        NZRU need to buy out Luatua's contract like they did with Naholo (and Charlie F's too)
        Even as a Savea fan I think Ioane needs to start at 11 now unless Savea destroys the Lions in their game.

        Didn't think Perofeta was too bad. Great pass for the first try. As West showed it isn't that easy to throw that sort of ball. He went pretty well for a young guy making his starting debut against the Lions with shitty service from Pulu who was fucking slow to clear the ball as usual..

        I must have missed the good stuff Collins did. He looked his usual slow, unable to beat a tackle or take a gap self.
        Nanai would have had a field day with that shitty lions defence. What did Collins actually do other than not fuck up?

        As for the Lions, what can you say. The pressure has just ramped up. Itoje looked a bit over rated to me but might get better. Hopefully any future refs will ping their 9 if he continues to pick the ball up and place it at the back of the ruck.

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        @pukunui said in Blues v BI Lions:

        Didn't think Perofeta was too bad. Great pass for the first try. As West showed it isn't that easy to throw that sort of ball. He went pretty well for a young guy making his starting debut against the Lions with shitty service from Pulu who was fucking slow to clear the ball as usual..

        I must have missed the good stuff Collins did. He looked his usual slow, unable to beat a tackle or take a gap self.
        Nanai would have had a field day with that shitty lions defence. What did Collins actually do other than not fuck up?

        A error free game from Collins - that's surely the very first thing you want from your fullback?

        Caught everything that was kicked to him, including an excellent mark under intense pressure during the downpour (which he converted into a free kick) and the contested take that led to West's try.

        Kick returns were all well judged - including that very nicely judged one that found touch 40 metres upfield that you've dismissed as "lucky".

        Nice save when your man Perofeta dropped the ball on his own line.

        At least one nice running break returning the ball.

        Was he spectacular? Not particularly - just very solid in everything he did. So my assessment - given how much criticism he's copped on here - was that he was "pretty good". I think that's accurate. Your remarks about him for this game seem pretty unfair.

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          Should've been a card for the neck-roll.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @pukunui said in Blues v BI Lions:

            Didn't think Perofeta was too bad. Great pass for the first try. As West showed it isn't that easy to throw that sort of ball. He went pretty well for a young guy making his starting debut against the Lions with shitty service from Pulu who was fucking slow to clear the ball as usual..

            I must have missed the good stuff Collins did. He looked his usual slow, unable to beat a tackle or take a gap self.
            Nanai would have had a field day with that shitty lions defence. What did Collins actually do other than not fuck up?

            A error free game from Collins - that's surely the very first thing you want from your fullback?

            Caught everything that was kicked to him, including an excellent mark under intense pressure during the downpour (which he converted into a free kick) and the contested take that led to West's try.

            Kick returns were all well judged - including that very nicely judged one that found touch 40 metres upfield that you've dismissed as "lucky".

            Nice save when your man Perofeta dropped the ball on his own line.

            At least one nice running break returning the ball.

            Was he spectacular? Not particularly - just very solid in everything he did. So my assessment - given how much criticism he's copped on here - was that he was "pretty good". I think that's accurate. Your remarks about him for this game seem pretty unfair.

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            @Chris-B. Yeah credit to Collins - that's about his peak performance - and that's all you can ask for. He made 0 errors which was great Well done that man.

            A few other Blues also played to their peak. Pulu for example made very few errors. His passing isn't the best but overall he played at his best.

            Not known for being a team to go 80 mins seeing the likes of Luatua, Akira and SBW emptying the tank and playing with so much energy late in the game was impressive.

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              Itoje and Marlor carried on like complete piston wristed gibbons, hopefully both of them get put in their place by the end of the tour.

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                Did you guys see the Rugby Heaven op ed slamming the Blues haka as inappropriate and disrespectful in light of the London attacks?

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                  Did you guys see the Rugby Heaven op ed slamming the Blues haka as inappropriate and disrespectful in light of the London attacks?

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                  @Mokey https://twitter.com/jcorrigangolf/status/872503592351137792

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                    https://gfycat.com/SoulfulShamefulCero

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                      Great work but man that was a try butchered

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @Mokey https://twitter.com/jcorrigangolf/status/872503592351137792

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                        @antipodean said in Blues v BI Lions:

                        @Mokey https://twitter.com/jcorrigangolf/status/872503592351137792

                        The people that write drivel like this are a scourge on humanity.

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                          Lets not ruin my greatest day with shitty clickbait.

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                          • dogmeatD dogmeat

                            Great work but man that was a try butchered

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                            @dogmeat I'm not convinced that pass was thrown forward.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              @dogmeat I'm not convinced that pass was thrown forward.

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                              @Tim said in Blues v BI Lions:

                              @dogmeat I'm not convinced that pass was thrown forward.

                              Yeah I agree.

                              And "butchered" is not the correct word anyway, there wasn't an overlap, Reiko ran through 3 guys.

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                                @dogmeat I'm not convinced that pass was thrown forward.

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                                @Tim I'm not convinced it was either and I've looked at it numerous times to try and determine.

                                However it was marginal enough to get called and if butchered was an exaggeration I still think pass and draw was a better option.

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                                  https://www.facebook.com/AllBlacks/videos/10154687701961915/

                                  https://www.facebook.com/AllBlacks/videos/10154687661446915/

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                                    people who film in portrait mode should be rounded up and placed in re-education camps.

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      people who film in portrait mode should be rounded up and placed in re-education camps.

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                                      @antipodean NZRU in action.

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                                        @Mokey said in Blues v BI Lions:

                                        Did you guys see the Rugby Heaven op ed slamming the Blues haka as inappropriate and disrespectful in light of the London attacks?

                                        Yup, what a wankpuffin.

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                                          Sumo was quick to respond on Twitter:

                                          http://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/872588119995895812

                                          http://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/872589119590768641

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