Building myself back up
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@jk said in Building myself back up:
@taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:
@jk fark, how do you 200g.
Most stuff I read says ~30g in a sitting is the most your body processes, but I've seen some dudes that have upto 100g in a sitting.
Yeah you really need regular eats right in order to get it in and most meals are going to be heavy protein and heavy on the leafy greens and colourful veges. Not a lot of fillers.
Used to have say 2-3 shakes (and it would be rare for me to have a single scoop - usually 1.5 or maybe 2), eggs every day (3-4 for brekky or 2-3 eggs and those liquid egg whites) and then would eat two or so meals at work that were chicken/fish/beef and veges. Dinner is usually whatever wife cooks and I often will make a mousse type thing with natural yoghurt and protein before bed.
Im not like that now. I eat pretty poorly at times which is why I havent seen abs for a fair while. Still pretty fit though, just may not look it.
How many calories you reckon you did then/do now?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
@jk said in Building myself back up:
@taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:
@jk fark, how do you 200g.
Most stuff I read says ~30g in a sitting is the most your body processes, but I've seen some dudes that have upto 100g in a sitting.
Yeah you really need regular eats right in order to get it in and most meals are going to be heavy protein and heavy on the leafy greens and colourful veges. Not a lot of fillers.
Used to have say 2-3 shakes (and it would be rare for me to have a single scoop - usually 1.5 or maybe 2), eggs every day (3-4 for brekky or 2-3 eggs and those liquid egg whites) and then would eat two or so meals at work that were chicken/fish/beef and veges. Dinner is usually whatever wife cooks and I often will make a mousse type thing with natural yoghurt and protein before bed.
Im not like that now. I eat pretty poorly at times which is why I havent seen abs for a fair while. Still pretty fit though, just may not look it.
How many calories you reckon you did then/do now?
I bulk around 2800-3500 and then dieting prob average for the week around 2300 per day. I would eat more on big training days (I train in morning) and then less on the less active days. My range could be say 2000-2600 for example.
Now I am probably around 2400-2500 but don't track at all. Certainly the quality of my calories arent as good nowadays.
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@jk said in Building myself back up:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
@jk said in Building myself back up:
@taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:
@jk fark, how do you 200g.
Most stuff I read says ~30g in a sitting is the most your body processes, but I've seen some dudes that have upto 100g in a sitting.
Yeah you really need regular eats right in order to get it in and most meals are going to be heavy protein and heavy on the leafy greens and colourful veges. Not a lot of fillers.
Used to have say 2-3 shakes (and it would be rare for me to have a single scoop - usually 1.5 or maybe 2), eggs every day (3-4 for brekky or 2-3 eggs and those liquid egg whites) and then would eat two or so meals at work that were chicken/fish/beef and veges. Dinner is usually whatever wife cooks and I often will make a mousse type thing with natural yoghurt and protein before bed.
Im not like that now. I eat pretty poorly at times which is why I havent seen abs for a fair while. Still pretty fit though, just may not look it.
How many calories you reckon you did then/do now?
I bulk around 2800-3500 and then dieting prob average for the week around 2300 per day. I would eat more on big training days (I train in morning) and then less on the less active days. My range could be say 2000-2600 for example.
Now I am probably around 2400-2500 but don't track at all. Certainly the quality of my calories arent as good nowadays.
My brain used to leave my head whenever calories were talked about but I'm really quite into it now. It's pretty amazing to see the number of calories in "healthy" foods. What blew me away was how low in calories strawberries are.
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@rancid-schnitzel too much sugar and salt is in practically everything!
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@taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:
@rancid-schnitzel too much sugar and salt is in practically everything!
Anything tasty anyway!
The carbs always cop the bad rap but I don't think it's so much that carbs are evil but that they can be very high in calories.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
@jk said in Building myself back up:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
@jk said in Building myself back up:
@taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:
@jk fark, how do you 200g.
Most stuff I read says ~30g in a sitting is the most your body processes, but I've seen some dudes that have upto 100g in a sitting.
Yeah you really need regular eats right in order to get it in and most meals are going to be heavy protein and heavy on the leafy greens and colourful veges. Not a lot of fillers.
Used to have say 2-3 shakes (and it would be rare for me to have a single scoop - usually 1.5 or maybe 2), eggs every day (3-4 for brekky or 2-3 eggs and those liquid egg whites) and then would eat two or so meals at work that were chicken/fish/beef and veges. Dinner is usually whatever wife cooks and I often will make a mousse type thing with natural yoghurt and protein before bed.
Im not like that now. I eat pretty poorly at times which is why I havent seen abs for a fair while. Still pretty fit though, just may not look it.
How many calories you reckon you did then/do now?
I bulk around 2800-3500 and then dieting prob average for the week around 2300 per day. I would eat more on big training days (I train in morning) and then less on the less active days. My range could be say 2000-2600 for example.
Now I am probably around 2400-2500 but don't track at all. Certainly the quality of my calories arent as good nowadays.
My brain used to leave my head whenever calories were talked about but I'm really quite into it now. It's pretty amazing to see the number of calories in "healthy" foods. What blew me away was how low in calories strawberries are.
Strawberries are awesome eh! One of the best
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@taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:
@jk fark, how do you 200g.
Most stuff I read says ~30g in a sitting is the most your body processes, but I've seen some dudes that have upto 100g in a sitting.
Get those mushashi bars from the supermarket or servo. They’re about 45 grams a pop and the salted caramel one is sensational !!
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
The carbs always cop the bad rap but I don't think it's so much that carbs are evil but that they can be very high in calories.
Its not so much they are high in calories as they are the same calories per gram on protein its more that they dont satisfy easy, they can be process quickly and often leave you wanting more and more.
The other point is that we all are different and our bodies behave differently depending on the foods we eat. I know that I respond better to high protein, high/mod fats and low carbs. The wife though is quite the opposite and does very well on a high carb diet - she eats heaps of fruit and pasta etc and feels (and looks) flat without it.
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@mn5 said in Building myself back up:
@taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:
@jk fark, how do you 200g.
Most stuff I read says ~30g in a sitting is the most your body processes, but I've seen some dudes that have upto 100g in a sitting.
Get those mushashi bars from the supermarket or servo. They’re about 45 grams a pop and the salted caramel one is sensational !!
They had a special on those the other week. I bought 20!
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@jk I've never really tracked my eating for any sustained period, usually a few weeks max then stop.
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@jk said in Building myself back up:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
The carbs always cop the bad rap but I don't think it's so much that carbs are evil but that they can be very high in calories.
Its not so much they are high in calories as they are the same calories per gram on protein its more that they dont satisfy easy, they can be process quickly and often leave you wanting more and more.
The other point is that we all are different and our bodies behave differently depending on the foods we eat. I know that I respond better to high protein, high/mod fats and low carbs. The wife though is quite the opposite and does very well on a high carb diet - she eats heaps of fruit and pasta etc and feels (and looks) flat without it.
True dat and its also a hell of alot easier to consume more carbs than protein. I'm thinking that the breakdown itself (protein/fat/carbs) isn't that important. The important thing is to get enough protein and to stay under that calories threshold.
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@taniwharugby said in Building myself back up:
@jk I've never really tracked my eating for any sustained period, usually a few weeks max then stop.
I've never done it before but having a proper Garmin and the apps has made me much more aware of it and I find it really interesting. But ultimately you don't want it to rule your life.
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Don't think I've logged any training this week.
Very solid. Reckon I've probably got the right formula now although boot camp is getting a bit meh. Might have to offer some suggestions to liven it up a bit. Some good ones from @JK recent workouts might do the trick.
Big thing is getting the diet right.
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@rancid-schnitzel
These recent workouts are quite different to normal bodybuilding style weights I usually do in the gym. Just needed to get moving again after a week off when I was sick early in lockdown.No training today as had my vax shot yesterday and arms been a bit sore. Got some mountain biking done this arvo so not totally inactive today
Fat Amy tomorrow
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@jk said in Building myself back up:
@rancid-schnitzel
These recent workouts are quite different to normal bodybuilding style weights I usually do in the gym. Just needed to get moving again after a week off when I was sick early in lockdown.No training today as had my vax shot yesterday and arms been a bit sore. Got some mountain biking done this arvo so not totally inactive today
Fat Amy tomorrow
GF got the shot on Tuesday. Could barely lift her arm the first few days. I'm up in October. Dreading it. Had the Swine flu one back in the day and was knocked out for days. Hopefully no dramas this time
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Absolutely brutal period of work recently. Too much coffee and not enough sleep but training and diet (other than coffee) on point. Back in the day I would have sacrificed the training but not any more. Would be a wreck without that. Also managed 3rd week without treat meal. Going OK actually. Definitely feel much better on Sundays. Most important thing is to stay full and not starve. Added loads of cauliflower and broccoli which helps. Protein cake (or rather mash) is also more satisfying than a simple shake.
Reckon it has been good long term. I may have deserved the cheat days but they were absolutely ridiculous.
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8 days...getting slack.
Bizarre occurrence on Saturday. In fact rather mindfucking. Got out of the pool on Saturday and the dad of one of the triathlete kids who swim right after told me to stop training there because I was making people envious and making the other dads look bad. Obviously that was meant as a compliment and my frail ego was lifted greatly. But that evening when being the good son and going over to my parents to watch the game my mum was all stroppy with me. I pushed as to why and she then burst into tears about how I was so thin and she couldn't bare it! Like full on farking tear session. I will say that the lack of cheat day now has me at a stupidly low body fat level but I'm still nowhere near farking marathon runner thin. Nowhere close. It's absolutely bizarre. It's like that generation think you're thin if you're not 5-10 kilos overweight.
Interestingly enough Lote Tiquiri (who is the exact same age as me) popped up on the TV to promote tourism up north. Now there's a guy who has let himself go. Looks like a bag of shit. I rather rudely commented on how well he was looking and asked my dear mum whether that was something I should aspire to.
Anyway, it's an absolutely bizarre situation when everyone around you (including complete strangers) are complementing you on your fitness, except for your own mother who is literally in tears about it. I want off this planet.
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I’m 5 ft 9.5 and just dipped below 87kg. Wife saw me and said I’m looking really thin.
I have trained her well.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
8 days...getting slack.
Bizarre occurrence on Saturday. In fact rather mindfucking. Got out of the pool on Saturday and the dad of one of the triathlete kids who swim right after told me to stop training there because I was making people envious and making the other dads look bad. Obviously that was meant as a compliment and my frail ego was lifted greatly. But that evening when being the good son and going over to my parents to watch the game my mum was all stroppy with me. I pushed as to why and she then burst into tears about how I was so thin and she couldn't bare it! Like full on farking tear session. I will say that the lack of cheat day now has me at a stupidly low body fat level but I'm still nowhere near farking marathon runner thin. Nowhere close. It's absolutely bizarre. It's like that generation think you're thin if you're not 5-10 kilos overweight.
Interestingly enough Lote Tiquiri (who is the exact same age as me) popped up on the TV to promote tourism up north. Now there's a guy who has let himself go. Looks like a bag of shit. I rather rudely commented on how well he was looking and asked my dear mum whether that was something I should aspire to.
Anyway, it's an absolutely bizarre situation when everyone around you (including complete strangers) are complementing you on your fitness, except for your own mother who is literally in tears about it. I want off this planet.
I saw that travel show masquerading as a promotion for the game the other night. I thought Lote definitely looked a bit less ripped than his playing days but I’d hardly say he’s let himself go. Geez you’re a hard taskmaster !
Well done on the other compliments though ! Closest I’ve had lately is that the other half and I look like a “fit and active couple”. Coming from the lardarse who said it didn’t mean too much though haha.
