Blues v Highlanders
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@steven-harris said in Blues v Highlanders:
@kiwimurph we had team stacked with All Blacks and big names when Pat Lam coached them and we stumbled into the playoffs and got cleaned up the Reds..you arguably say even our better selected sides have been a massive disappointment.
The Pat Lam side wasn’t that bad. If he had the resources Tana has it would be interesting to think about what might have been.
@kirwan said in Blues v Highlanders:
@steven-harris said in Blues v Highlanders:
@kiwimurph we had team stacked with All Blacks and big names when Pat Lam coached them and we stumbled into the playoffs and got cleaned up the Reds..you arguably say even our better selected sides have been a massive disappointment.
The Pat Lam side wasn’t that bad. If he had the resources Tana has it would be interesting to think about what might have been.
We got better each year under Lam except the last year where we had a crazy injury toll and lost our two most influential players in Toeava and Kaino for the season in round 2 against the Chiefs.
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@canerbry said in Blues v Highlanders:
ALMOST feel sorry for Auckland Rugby supporters right now.
Jesus has it really got that bad? Never thought I'd ever see a post like that from you.
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@canerbry add Harbour and Northland supporters into your thoughts as well.
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@canerbry said in Blues v Highlanders:
ALMOST feel sorry for Auckland Rugby supporters right now.
Jesus has it really got that bad? Never thought I'd ever see a post like that from you.
@no-quarter
Obviously there's an awful lot of joy being enjoyed, decades of built-up Schadenfreude etc. -
If you want to know if this is the lowest ever point for the Blues then @Canerbry just thinking about maybe having a tiny bit of sympathy for Aucklanders should tell you all you need to know.
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Wow, that was bad, really bad. Blues looked like an Aussie side out there.....
The Landers played with speed and were able to get through and around Blues defenders.
Impressed with Hammington again. Good awareness and a swift pass to boot.
Blues look laboured and disorganised in attack.
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@bones Li and tearing up should not be in the same sentence, he's a joke.
Oh, and Aaron Smith is also a former Blues squad member
@african-monkey said in Blues v Highlanders:
@bones Li and tearing up should not be in the same sentence, he's a joke.
Oh, and Aaron Smith is also a former Blues squad member
Not this year dude
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Before I read the rest of the thread which I imagine is a extended call for Tana to resign I worked something out during the game. Not an excuse for Tana but:
- Manu
- Apisai
- Tu'ungafasi
- Cowley-Tuioti
- Scrafton
- Kaino
- Gibson
- ?
- Pulu
- Black
- Nanae
- Moala
- SBW
- Duffie
- Collins
How many of them would be in the first team? 6 of the backline and 5 of the forwards?
Just saying
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Wow, that was bad, really bad. Blues looked like an Aussie side out there.....
The Landers played with speed and were able to get through and around Blues defenders.
Impressed with Hammington again. Good awareness and a swift pass to boot.
Blues look laboured and disorganised in attack.
@act-crusader said in Blues v Highlanders:
Blues look laboured and disorganised in attack.
Looked a bit like us when Toddy would try to cram Danny, Slade and Tom Taylor into the backline?
Tana needs to get them moving the ball from side to side - probing for the gap that never comes!
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@rocky-rockbottom totally agree,even the stats are quite hard to believe,
Highlanders. Blues Tackles made 158. 61 Missed Tackles. 17. 10 Offloads in Tackle. 8. 16 Turn overs conceded. 19. 17 Clean Breaks. 1. 2 Penalties Conceeded. 9. 7Only stat that counts is the score line I guess,they should add another couple of other stats when they put these together
Good decisions
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Well, I left early. It was shit. Our halfback seemed to think that slow, looping passes were a good idea, and it didn't get better. The second Landers try was ropey as fark, ball was on the ground stopped and then somehow over the line.
Crowd was utterly deflated. As negative as I've seen at EP. It's just like a long, slow train wreck. Team played poorly, no evidence of structure or effectiveness, and consistently poor skills for a professional outfit.
I'm just .... empty inside.
@nzzp said in Blues v Highlanders:
Well, I left early. It was shit. Our halfback seemed to think that slow, looping passes were a good idea, and it didn't get better.
Yep. Ruru was just as much at fault as Gatland for the first try. The pass was taken above his head.
As others have said, a lot of that backline is Development level only.
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Before I read the rest of the thread which I imagine is a extended call for Tana to resign I worked something out during the game. Not an excuse for Tana but:
- Manu
- Apisai
- Tu'ungafasi
- Cowley-Tuioti
- Scrafton
- Kaino
- Gibson
- ?
- Pulu
- Black
- Nanae
- Moala
- SBW
- Duffie
- Collins
How many of them would be in the first team? 6 of the backline and 5 of the forwards?
Just saying
@booboo just an update on your team - Manu started (though Hodgman is injured you could put him in there), Apisai is fit but not able to make the 23 cos he is awful and Duffie was on the bench.
As for some players who played well I thought Tamaioeta actually went well in his first start at tighthead, Papalii shows a lot of promise and Duffie played his best game of the year off the bench.
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And what was the excuse when more of those players were fit earlier in the season? Or last year?
The fact is that injuries happen, and you have to rely on your squad (which Tana picked). Look at what the injuries the Chiefs had, and that all still look like a coached team and their new players look like they understand the team pattern and contribute to the result.
I defy you to describe the Blues pattern/gameplan on attack or defence. We have disintegrated into a team of individuals.
Just look at things like the non-selection of Ben Lam. Or plays his counties favourites over Akira last year.
The problems start at the board, obviously as they keep picking celebrities for coaches, but Tana is clearly out of his depth and should quit. Or be sacked.
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And what was the excuse when more of those players were fit earlier in the season? Or last year?
The fact is that injuries happen, and you have to rely on your squad (which Tana picked). Look at what the injuries the Chiefs had, and that all still look like a coached team and their new players look like they understand the team pattern and contribute to the result.
I defy you to describe the Blues pattern/gameplan on attack or defence. We have disintegrated into a team of individuals.
Just look at things like the non-selection of Ben Lam. Or plays his counties favourites over Akira last year.
The problems start at the board, obviously as they keep picking celebrities for coaches, but Tana is clearly out of his depth and should quit. Or be sacked.
@kirwan TBF, Lam really has only come of age this season, was all kinds of average when with the Blues (would have slotted in nicely with this bunch...) and even last year with the canes wasnt near his 2018 form.
LIke all these 'ones that got away' there is no garantees they would have developed into the much better players they did if they stayed with the Blues..plus, how many players have the Blues let go, that havent flourished...
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@kirwan TBF, Lam really has only come of age this season, was all kinds of average when with the Blues (would have slotted in nicely with this bunch...) and even last year with the canes wasnt near his 2018 form.
LIke all these 'ones that got away' there is no garantees they would have developed into the much better players they did if they stayed with the Blues..plus, how many players have the Blues let go, that havent flourished...
@taniwharugby said in Blues v Highlanders:
@kirwan TBF, Lam really has only come of age this season, was all kinds of average when with the Blues (would have slotted in nicely with this bunch...) and even last year with the canes wasnt near his 2018 form.
LIke all these 'ones that got away' there is no garantees they would have developed into the much better players they did if they stayed with the Blues..plus, how many players have the Blues let go, that havent flourished...
That’s not quite right, he hit form a couple of years ago then got injured. He certainly would have been a better squad choice even if you disagree than Declan ODonnell.
You have to look at who we swapped him for, it’s a joke.
Instead we have a player developed in the Blues region and another franchise is reaping the rewards.
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@kirwan TBF, Lam really has only come of age this season, was all kinds of average when with the Blues (would have slotted in nicely with this bunch...) and even last year with the canes wasnt near his 2018 form.
LIke all these 'ones that got away' there is no garantees they would have developed into the much better players they did if they stayed with the Blues..plus, how many players have the Blues let go, that havent flourished...
@taniwharugby i never liked him but lam was an absolute freak in the 2015 mitre 10 cup. I think he done his ACL in the preseason of super rugby straight after so bad timing. Not really Tana's fault.
Blues general play attack was just clueless last night. Funny thing is everyone in rugby attacks very similar in the 1-33-1 shape but the blues just can't seem to create anything out of it. The small things like running square and details around passing are just not there. Last night many times they had overlaps but the defense was able to shit it down fairly easy. Dumb miss passes and lack of square threatening running.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues v Highlanders:
@kirwan TBF, Lam really has only come of age this season, was all kinds of average when with the Blues (would have slotted in nicely with this bunch...) and even last year with the canes wasnt near his 2018 form.
LIke all these 'ones that got away' there is no garantees they would have developed into the much better players they did if they stayed with the Blues..plus, how many players have the Blues let go, that havent flourished...
That’s not quite right, he hit form a couple of years ago then got injured. He certainly would have been a better squad choice even if you disagree than Declan ODonnell.
You have to look at who we swapped him for, it’s a joke.
Instead we have a player developed in the Blues region and another franchise is reaping the rewards.
@kirwan yeah Tana's selections (squad and match day) leave alot to be desired, showing he is out of his depth
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@booboo just an update on your team - Manu started (though Hodgman is injured you could put him in there), Apisai is fit but not able to make the 23 cos he is awful and Duffie was on the bench.
As for some players who played well I thought Tamaioeta actually went well in his first start at tighthead, Papalii shows a lot of promise and Duffie played his best game of the year off the bench.
@kiwimurph said in Blues v Highlanders:
@booboo just an update on your team - Manu started (though Hodgman is injured you could put him in there), Apisai is fit but not able to make the 23 cos he is awful and Duffie was on the bench.
As for some players who played well I thought Tamaioeta actually went well in his first start at tighthead, Papalii shows a lot of promise and Duffie played his best game of the year off the bench.
Oops missed Manu. Realised Duffie was on bench but included anyway.
And agree re Apisai
