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Super Rugby Final 2018

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  • BonesB Offline
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    Bones
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    Nice one crusaders. Well done that man with the France multi!

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    • SiamS Offline
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      #194

      Justice

      Complete piston wristed gibbons that they are ( and always will be) that Crusaders team this year and with no other Crusaders fans in the room, were a pleasure to watch playing 100% winning rugby.

      Get Razor the big job - we could all do with the fun and he sure as shit knows his job

      Well done red and black, fair dues

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        ACT Crusader
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        #195

        10 Mounga
        15 B. Barrett
        22 D. MacKenzie
        23 J. Barrett

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          #196

          Bloody good season by the Crusaders.
          Strange game tonight. The territory and possession stats were crazy. Not helped by poor exiting by the saders.
          Mounga MOTM.
          Wasn't Hall's best game. Poor box kicking and doing the Pulu pause at the base of the ruck too often.
          Moody has been a liability this season.

          Lions need to pray harder or find a new god. 0-3 means he isn't listening.

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          • CyclopsC Offline
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            #197

            That stat line was crazy, but the crusaders were so very efficient that they would score very quickly whenever they got ball, especially in the first half, while the lions were good enough to put phases together but couldn't score points.

            Mounga is going from strength to strength. End of year tour will be key for him I think, he'll get at least one start there and that will be the game he needs to crush if he wants to get past Barrett and dmc before the rwc.

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            • pukunuiP pukunui

              Bloody good season by the Crusaders.
              Strange game tonight. The territory and possession stats were crazy. Not helped by poor exiting by the saders.
              Mounga MOTM.
              Wasn't Hall's best game. Poor box kicking and doing the Pulu pause at the base of the ruck too often.
              Moody has been a liability this season.

              Lions need to pray harder or find a new god. 0-3 means he isn't listening.

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              #198

              @pukunui said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

              Bloody good season by the Crusaders.
              Strange game tonight. The territory and possession stats were crazy. Not helped by poor exiting by the saders.
              Mounga MOTM.
              Wasn't Hall's best game. Poor box kicking and doing the Pulu pause at the base of the ruck too often.
              Moody has been a liability this season.

              Lions need to pray harder or find a new god. 0-3 means he isn't listening.

              Getting close to the buffalo bills now (4 consecutive super bowl losses).

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @no-quarter said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                @no-quarter said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                Mounga

                Daylight

                Every other 10 in NZ.

                Must start first test

                If DMac is picked ahead of him again it would be an absolute farce.

                Mounga start, Dmac off the bench

                Rancid

                😁

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                Rancid Schnitzel
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                @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                @no-quarter said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                @no-quarter said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                Mounga

                Daylight

                Every other 10 in NZ.

                Must start first test

                If DMac is picked ahead of him again it would be an absolute farce.

                Mounga start, Dmac off the bench

                Rancid

                😁

                🖕

                Not biting bitch.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  10 Mounga
                  15 B. Barrett
                  22 D. MacKenzie
                  23 J. Barrett

                  mariner4lifeM Offline
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                  #200

                  @act-crusader said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                  10 Mounga
                  15 B. Barrett
                  22 D. MacKenzie
                  23 J. Barrett

                  Absolutely not

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                  • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    @no-quarter said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    @no-quarter said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    Mounga

                    Daylight

                    Every other 10 in NZ.

                    Must start first test

                    If DMac is picked ahead of him again it would be an absolute farce.

                    Mounga start, Dmac off the bench

                    Rancid

                    😁

                    🖕

                    Not biting bitch.

                    mariner4lifeM Offline
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                    mariner4life
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                    #201

                    @rancid-schnitzel said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    @no-quarter said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    @no-quarter said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                    Mounga

                    Daylight

                    Every other 10 in NZ.

                    Must start first test

                    If DMac is picked ahead of him again it would be an absolute farce.

                    Mounga start, Dmac off the bench

                    Rancid

                    😁

                    🖕

                    Not biting bitch.

                    You were gritting your teeth when you posted that

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @act-crusader said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                      10 Mounga
                      15 B. Barrett
                      22 D. MacKenzie
                      23 J. Barrett

                      Absolutely not

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                      #202

                      @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                      @act-crusader said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                      10 Mounga
                      15 B. Barrett
                      22 D. MacKenzie
                      23 J. Barrett

                      Absolutely not

                      Add in Crotty, Goodhue and Ben Smith and we will have an almost SWB backline 😀

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                      • CyclopsC Cyclops

                        That stat line was crazy, but the crusaders were so very efficient that they would score very quickly whenever they got ball, especially in the first half, while the lions were good enough to put phases together but couldn't score points.

                        Mounga is going from strength to strength. End of year tour will be key for him I think, he'll get at least one start there and that will be the game he needs to crush if he wants to get past Barrett and dmc before the rwc.

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                        #203

                        @cyclops said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                        Mounga is going from strength to strength. End of year tour will be key for him I think, he'll get at least one start there and that will be the game he needs to crush if he wants to get past Barrett and dmc before the rwc.

                        Would be pretty conservative of Shag not to give Richie a fair bit of time in the Rugby Championship. Not necessarily in the first Bled, but he's really played the house down and clearly ready to take the chance - should get at least one start in TRC and several goes from the bench. Pretty clear MoM in this game.

                        Pretty unusual game. Lions with huge domination of territory and possession, but rarely looked like scoring. Crusaders with brutal defence and very efficient in converting their limited chances.

                        Credit to the Lions for denying the Crusaders opportunities but, to be honest, it never felt like they were likely to win. Their lineout maul that was expected to be a big weapon was just smashed. Defence was pretty much awesome aside from Todd's miss.

                        Well done, Razor.

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                        • MokeyM Offline
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                          #204

                          Congrats to the Crusaders on a well-deserved victory.

                          Now, if they could just fix up the comp so it wasn't NZ teams smashing the fuck out of each other again and again and injuring half the players.

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @cyclops said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                            Mounga is going from strength to strength. End of year tour will be key for him I think, he'll get at least one start there and that will be the game he needs to crush if he wants to get past Barrett and dmc before the rwc.

                            Would be pretty conservative of Shag not to give Richie a fair bit of time in the Rugby Championship. Not necessarily in the first Bled, but he's really played the house down and clearly ready to take the chance - should get at least one start in TRC and several goes from the bench. Pretty clear MoM in this game.

                            Pretty unusual game. Lions with huge domination of territory and possession, but rarely looked like scoring. Crusaders with brutal defence and very efficient in converting their limited chances.

                            Credit to the Lions for denying the Crusaders opportunities but, to be honest, it never felt like they were likely to win. Their lineout maul that was expected to be a big weapon was just smashed. Defence was pretty much awesome aside from Todd's miss.

                            Well done, Razor.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #205

                            @chris-b said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                            @cyclops said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                            Mounga is going from strength to strength. End of year tour will be key for him I think, he'll get at least one start there and that will be the game he needs to crush if he wants to get past Barrett and dmc before the rwc.

                            Would be pretty conservative of Shag not to give Richie a fair bit of time in the Rugby Championship. Not necessarily in the first Bled, but he's really played the house down and clearly ready to take the chance - should get at least one start in TRC and several goes from the bench. Pretty clear MoM in this game.

                            Pretty unusual game. Lions with huge domination of territory and possession, but rarely looked like scoring. Crusaders with brutal defence and very efficient in converting their limited chances.

                            Credit to the Lions for denying the Crusaders opportunities but, to be honest, it never felt like they were likely to win. Their lineout maul that was expected to be a big weapon was just smashed. Defence was pretty much awesome aside from Todd's miss.

                            Well done, Razor.

                            Barring injury I figure Barrett and Dmc get all the starts. Mounga will get a decent amount of time off the bench but it won't be until the eoyt that he gets a chance to start. He might get a start vs Argentina, but looking at shag's track record and comments about the rolls royce pack I don't think he's in a hurry to get Mounga into the starting xv.

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                            • CyclopsC Cyclops

                              @chris-b said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                              @cyclops said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                              Mounga is going from strength to strength. End of year tour will be key for him I think, he'll get at least one start there and that will be the game he needs to crush if he wants to get past Barrett and dmc before the rwc.

                              Would be pretty conservative of Shag not to give Richie a fair bit of time in the Rugby Championship. Not necessarily in the first Bled, but he's really played the house down and clearly ready to take the chance - should get at least one start in TRC and several goes from the bench. Pretty clear MoM in this game.

                              Pretty unusual game. Lions with huge domination of territory and possession, but rarely looked like scoring. Crusaders with brutal defence and very efficient in converting their limited chances.

                              Credit to the Lions for denying the Crusaders opportunities but, to be honest, it never felt like they were likely to win. Their lineout maul that was expected to be a big weapon was just smashed. Defence was pretty much awesome aside from Todd's miss.

                              Well done, Razor.

                              Barring injury I figure Barrett and Dmc get all the starts. Mounga will get a decent amount of time off the bench but it won't be until the eoyt that he gets a chance to start. He might get a start vs Argentina, but looking at shag's track record and comments about the rolls royce pack I don't think he's in a hurry to get Mounga into the starting xv.

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                              @cyclops I reckon Richie is a good chance to get the start vs Argentina in Nelson - and then they'll go from there - if he does well he probably gets another.

                              EOYT - barring injury Beauden should get the starts vs England and Ireland - which leaves Japan and Italy, which isn't much of a test for Richie.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @cyclops I reckon Richie is a good chance to get the start vs Argentina in Nelson - and then they'll go from there - if he does well he probably gets another.

                                EOYT - barring injury Beauden should get the starts vs England and Ireland - which leaves Japan and Italy, which isn't much of a test for Richie.

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                                Bones
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                                #207

                                @chris-b although when Sopoaga was on fire they threw him a start at Newlands wasn't it?

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                                  https://twitter.com/NigelYalden/status/1025682269590106113

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                                    @chris-b although when Sopoaga was on fire they threw him a start at Newlands wasn't it?

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                                    @bones said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                                    @chris-b although when Sopoaga was on fire they threw him a start at Newlands wasn't it?

                                    Ellis Park.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      Mounga

                                      Daylight

                                      Every other 10 in NZ.

                                      Must start first test

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                                      #210

                                      @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                                      Mounga

                                      Daylight

                                      Every other 10 in NZ.

                                      Must start first test

                                      So true, I’m out celebrating but glad I checked the fern to read this.

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                                        The lions put us under more pressure tonight than the hurricanes last week.

                                        I’ll stick with my preseason call that the chiefs are the only team that worries me in the NZ conference. The other teams can’t compete up front.

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                                          https://twitter.com/NigelYalden/status/1025682269590106113

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                                          @stargazer said in Super Rugby Final 2018:

                                          https://twitter.com/NigelYalden/status/1025682269590106113

                                          Yalden's a journalist isn't he? Yet he appears to be unaware that for years NZ sides routinely lose the possession and territory stats when playing other nations.

                                          Our good teams don't waste time on attack, so if we get the ball in space it is either a score quickly, or nothing. The champion Chiefs side of a few years back attacked largely from long-distance, and so barely spent any time in the opposition 22 the whole season. This Crusader side isn't quite that cut-throat, but they still attack instantly the moment a hole appears, rather than trying to work slowly up field. And they know the advantage of surprise (e.g. quick lineout).

                                          On defence we tend to be patient. This Crusader side, particularly so.

                                          So the possession statistic in particular is useless as a guide to how well a NZ team is going. Indeed if playing a Tier 1 nation and the ABs have the possession in their favour, then they're struggling, because it means the attack isn't working.

                                          Territory isn't much use if the opposition doesn't give away penalties, or if you don't shoot for goal when you do get them.

                                          You'd expect a professional to have spotted that by now, rather than be astounded by it.

                                          Next month he'll be surprised when he sees a rugby team scores more points into a wind.

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