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Jaguares vs Blues

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #1

    The AB restrictions make the selections this week even more difficult

    Tuipulotu can only play 47mins, Rieko can only play 43mins

    Start both and sub early? I think the best option is to start Tuipulotu and use Rieko from the bench. If we only get one half of Ioane it might as well be against tired defenders

    TJ got found out at 13. So surely it's a SBW/Nonu midfield? SBW is not playing well but he's likely to play 80mins because he's the preferred captain when Tuipulotu goes off

    IMO Hodgman should start ahead of Tu'inukuafe on form. Also Parsons is really struggling. I think he's only good for 20mins.. Moulds should get the start

    I think we need to have a look at Tele'a at 13 soon. However he'll probably be needed to start on the wing.. maybe he gets some time at 13 late in the game

    Collins? Sigh. Do we have the resources on tour to drop him? With Rieko only getting half a game and Clarke injured we are probably stuck with him.
    Unless someone else flew over? Or maybe Black to fullback and Plummer to start?

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      The AB restrictions make the selections this week even more difficult

      Tuipulotu can only play 47mins, Rieko can only play 43mins

      Start both and sub early? I think the best option is to start Tuipulotu and use Rieko from the bench. If we only get one half of Ioane it might as well be against tired defenders

      TJ got found out at 13. So surely it's a SBW/Nonu midfield? SBW is not playing well but he's likely to play 80mins because he's the preferred captain when Tuipulotu goes off

      IMO Hodgman should start ahead of Tu'inukuafe on form. Also Parsons is really struggling. I think he's only good for 20mins.. Moulds should get the start

      I think we need to have a look at Tele'a at 13 soon. However he'll probably be needed to start on the wing.. maybe he gets some time at 13 late in the game

      Collins? Sigh. Do we have the resources on tour to drop him? With Rieko only getting half a game and Clarke injured we are probably stuck with him.
      Unless someone else flew over? Or maybe Black to fullback and Plummer to start?

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      wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
      #2

      Hinton's article in Stuff indicated they would fly over a replacement for Clarke. However, I think most likely Blues are stuck with Collins at 15 one more week.

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      • KirwanK Offline
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        #3

        Just to talk about something different for a change, I'm on board for Moulds being given a shot over Parsons. His advantage of being a better lineout option seems to have regressed now, and Moulds gives us a lot more around the park.

        Parsons running the ball up is almost as bad as Owen Franks.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          The AB restrictions make the selections this week even more difficult

          Tuipulotu can only play 47mins, Rieko can only play 43mins

          Start both and sub early? I think the best option is to start Tuipulotu and use Rieko from the bench. If we only get one half of Ioane it might as well be against tired defenders

          TJ got found out at 13. So surely it's a SBW/Nonu midfield? SBW is not playing well but he's likely to play 80mins because he's the preferred captain when Tuipulotu goes off

          IMO Hodgman should start ahead of Tu'inukuafe on form. Also Parsons is really struggling. I think he's only good for 20mins.. Moulds should get the start

          I think we need to have a look at Tele'a at 13 soon. However he'll probably be needed to start on the wing.. maybe he gets some time at 13 late in the game

          Collins? Sigh. Do we have the resources on tour to drop him? With Rieko only getting half a game and Clarke injured we are probably stuck with him.
          Unless someone else flew over? Or maybe Black to fullback and Plummer to start?

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          nzzp
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          @Duluth I'm less fussed, and care more that we play like week 1.

          The hard and direct running from the back (yes, even from Collins) asked questions of the Canterbury defence. We need to be more phyiscal and direct.

          Also, only a 7 hour time difference this week. That's got to be easier 😐

          NZZP's predictions for teh season:
          We're going to play more and more like 'week 1' , and less and less like 'week 2' as the coaching has an effect. We may drop this game, but I think at some point we're going to go on a tear, and win 4-5 on the bounce. Success for me is ending the season heading in the right direction - with some sort of structure, and an ongoing squad refresh, 2020 could be our year 😄

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            Just to talk about something different for a change, I'm on board for Moulds being given a shot over Parsons. His advantage of being a better lineout option seems to have regressed now, and Moulds gives us a lot more around the park.

            Parsons running the ball up is almost as bad as Owen Franks.

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            nzzp
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            @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

            Just to talk about something different for a change, I'm on board for Moulds being given a shot over Parsons. His advantage of being a better lineout option seems to have regressed now, and Moulds gives us a lot more around the park.

            Parsons running the ball up is almost as bad as Owen Franks.

            Well, worse, as Franks is a good scrummager. Parsons is a great dude no doubt, but not sure he's effective in this comp, at this level. That said, he's got one more AB cap than me, so what do I know 😄

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            • KirwanK Offline
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              #6

              Success this season, is a pretty low bar. Wins over NZ sides, Maul defence improvement, tidy exits from the 22, dropping players for poor performance.

              Everything else is a bonus.

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                Success this season, is a pretty low bar. Wins over NZ sides, Maul defence improvement, tidy exits from the 22, dropping players for poor performance.

                Everything else is a bonus.

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                @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                Wins over NZ sides, - THIS IS OUR YEAR TO GET TWO WINS IN OUR CONFERENCE

                Maul defence improvement, - Mauls, not so much, but defence much better

                tidy exits from the 22, - Much improved

                dropping players for poor performance. - Attempted

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                  Wins over NZ sides, - THIS IS OUR YEAR TO GET TWO WINS IN OUR CONFERENCE

                  Maul defence improvement, - Mauls, not so much, but defence much better

                  tidy exits from the 22, - Much improved

                  dropping players for poor performance. - Attempted

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                  @nzzp said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                  @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                  Wins over NZ sides, - THIS IS OUR YEAR TO GET TWO WINS IN OUR CONFERENCE

                  Maul defence improvement, - Mauls, not so much, but defence much better

                  tidy exits from the 22, - Much improved

                  dropping players for poor performance. - Attempted

                  Yeah, only two games but you can see a better structure and has been some good on the line defence. But those are the first things I thought of that Tana and Jackson didn't fix over three years.

                  So I want to see those areas improve, then look for other areas.

                  There is nothing Leon and Coventry can do about squad selection right now, but that's another area to look at later this year.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @nzzp said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                    @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                    Wins over NZ sides, - THIS IS OUR YEAR TO GET TWO WINS IN OUR CONFERENCE

                    Maul defence improvement, - Mauls, not so much, but defence much better

                    tidy exits from the 22, - Much improved

                    dropping players for poor performance. - Attempted

                    Yeah, only two games but you can see a better structure and has been some good on the line defence. But those are the first things I thought of that Tana and Jackson didn't fix over three years.

                    So I want to see those areas improve, then look for other areas.

                    There is nothing Leon and Coventry can do about squad selection right now, but that's another area to look at later this year.

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                    wrote on last edited by Hooroo
                    #9

                    @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                    @nzzp said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                    @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                    Wins over NZ sides, - THIS IS OUR YEAR TO GET TWO WINS IN OUR CONFERENCE

                    Maul defence improvement, - Mauls, not so much, but defence much better

                    tidy exits from the 22, - Much improved

                    dropping players for poor performance. - Attempted

                    Yeah, only two games but you can see a better structure and has been some good on the line defence. But those are the first things I thought of that Tana and Jackson didn't fix over three years.

                    So I want to see those areas improve, then look for other areas.

                    There is nothing Leon and Coventry can do about squad selection right now, but that's another area to look at later this year.

                    The way things are looking and the way the Blues are playing compared to The Chiefs, then you will walk the two matches against us.

                    54 (or was it 57?) points shifted against a rubbish Brumbies side!

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                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                      @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                      @nzzp said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                      @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                      Wins over NZ sides, - THIS IS OUR YEAR TO GET TWO WINS IN OUR CONFERENCE

                      Maul defence improvement, - Mauls, not so much, but defence much better

                      tidy exits from the 22, - Much improved

                      dropping players for poor performance. - Attempted

                      Yeah, only two games but you can see a better structure and has been some good on the line defence. But those are the first things I thought of that Tana and Jackson didn't fix over three years.

                      So I want to see those areas improve, then look for other areas.

                      There is nothing Leon and Coventry can do about squad selection right now, but that's another area to look at later this year.

                      The way things are looking and the way the Blues are playing compared to The Chiefs, then you will walk the two matches against us.

                      54 (or was it 57?) points shifted against a rubbish Brumbies side!

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                      Kirwan
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      The way things are looking and the way the Blues are playing compared to The Chiefs, then you will walk the two matches against us.

                      54 (or was it 57?) points shifted against a rubbish Brumbies side!

                      I'm not counting any chickens, and I think that Chiefs performance was partly mental. Surely they can't stay that bad.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        The way things are looking and the way the Blues are playing compared to The Chiefs, then you will walk the two matches against us.

                        54 (or was it 57?) points shifted against a rubbish Brumbies side!

                        I'm not counting any chickens, and I think that Chiefs performance was partly mental. Surely they can't stay that bad.

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                        @Kirwan Just hope it's like Canes first up vs Brumbies in '15

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          The way things are looking and the way the Blues are playing compared to The Chiefs, then you will walk the two matches against us.

                          54 (or was it 57?) points shifted against a rubbish Brumbies side!

                          I'm not counting any chickens, and I think that Chiefs performance was partly mental. Surely they can't stay that bad.

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                          @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                          The way things are looking and the way the Blues are playing compared to The Chiefs, then you will walk the two matches against us.

                          54 (or was it 57?) points shifted against a rubbish Brumbies side!

                          I'm not counting any chickens, and I think that Chiefs performance was partly mental. Surely they can't stay that bad.

                          did you miss 1996 to 2011?

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                          • HoorooH Hooroo

                            @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                            @nzzp said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                            @Kirwan said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                            Wins over NZ sides, - THIS IS OUR YEAR TO GET TWO WINS IN OUR CONFERENCE

                            Maul defence improvement, - Mauls, not so much, but defence much better

                            tidy exits from the 22, - Much improved

                            dropping players for poor performance. - Attempted

                            Yeah, only two games but you can see a better structure and has been some good on the line defence. But those are the first things I thought of that Tana and Jackson didn't fix over three years.

                            So I want to see those areas improve, then look for other areas.

                            There is nothing Leon and Coventry can do about squad selection right now, but that's another area to look at later this year.

                            The way things are looking and the way the Blues are playing compared to The Chiefs, then you will walk the two matches against us.

                            54 (or was it 57?) points shifted against a rubbish Brumbies side!

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                            @Hooroo I wouldn't call the Brumbies rubbish. They almost made the playoffs last year and they look a better side this year.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Hooroo I wouldn't call the Brumbies rubbish. They almost made the playoffs last year and they look a better side this year.

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                              @KiwiMurph They lost to the Rebels in round 1 though.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @KiwiMurph They lost to the Rebels in round 1 though.

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                                @Stargazer That doesn't make them a rubbish side.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @Hooroo I wouldn't call the Brumbies rubbish. They almost made the playoffs last year and they look a better side this year.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                                  @Hooroo I wouldn't call the Brumbies rubbish. They almost made the playoffs last year and they look a better side this year.

                                  Almost made the playoffs? 6 of 15 teams ban make the play offs and all you have to do is win the weak Aussie conference. That makes them rubbish to me.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    @Stargazer That doesn't make them a rubbish side.

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                                    @KiwiMurph yeah on paper, the Rebels look handy this year. (which is why I tipped them in week 1 🙂 )

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                                      And the Chiefs in week 1 lost to the Highlanders who in week 2 scraped by, at home, to the Reds, who will easily be the worst Aussie side.

                                      For most kiwi teams this year, the trans-tasman games are going to be a shitfight.

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                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/110875152/super-rugby-crunch-time-for-blues-as-they-stare-down-the-barrel-of-an-03-start

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                                          ^ That's a Marc Hinton article. You've been warned.

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