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Reds v Blues

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @taniwharugby said in Reds v Blues:

    Lack of trust in squad players has been a common issue for Blues coaches for many, many years (conversely, some players kept getting picked despite sub-par performances)

    True of Kirwan/Umaga /MacDonald

    However MacDoanld has a chance to clear out players he does not trust as their contracts expire.

    For instance it's strange that Umaga didn't trust Moulds and then kept signing him.

    I have no problem with a squad player not getting game time if they are not extended. But that implies a lot of 2nd/3rd tier players are not wanted by the current coach

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    taniwharugby
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    @Duluth were some instances with Nucifora too (was he coach 05/06?)

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      Nanai had a really short leash under Tana, while Li and Collins got super long ones, it was all a bit weird.

      Highlander fans now know how we felt when Li would never get dropped. :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:

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        Nanai had a really short leash under Tana, while Li and Collins got super long ones, it was all a bit weird.

        Highlander fans now know how we felt when Li would never get dropped. :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:

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        @Dice said in Reds v Blues:

        Highlander fans now know how we felt when Li would never get dropped. :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:

        ... but, but, but, he's really fast in training!

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          @Dice said in Reds v Blues:

          Highlander fans now know how we felt when Li would never get dropped. :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:

          ... but, but, but, he's really fast in training!

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          @nzzp said in Reds v Blues:

          @Dice said in Reds v Blues:

          Highlander fans now know how we felt when Li would never get dropped. :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:

          ... but, but, but, he's really fast in training!

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            Dalton was poor at the start of the season a bit of a headless chook. but I feel that was the all blacks leave hurting a young player who needed the coaching.

            Tom Robinsons work rate is not an issue. I think he tries to do too much without being effective on occasion. And many teams play there 6 out wide if hes not doing workout there it's the 10 12 13 not getting the ball to the right parts of the field

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              Dalton was poor at the start of the season a bit of a headless chook. but I feel that was the all blacks leave hurting a young player who needed the coaching.

              Tom Robinsons work rate is not an issue. I think he tries to do too much without being effective on occasion. And many teams play there 6 out wide if hes not doing workout there it's the 10 12 13 not getting the ball to the right parts of the field

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              @muddyriver said in Reds v Blues:

              Dalton was poor at the start of the season a bit of a headless chook.

              Yeah, I think those were all at 7?

              He gave an interview early in the year where he talked about playing 6 v 7. When playing 6 he tries to impersonate Kaino, when he's at 7's he tries to push the ref.

              He didn't get those judgement calls right and gave away a lot of dumb penalties. Offsides and not listening to instructions at the breakdown etc

              His games at 6 have been high quality

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                @Steven-Harris said in Reds v Blues:

                but it would be fair to say this had been his most consistent season..I don’t believe for a second he’s a fullback, does not have a kicking game and the number of times he’s ignored support players not to mention the really frustrating one
                Fields a kick and runs straight into contact..where a wide pass to another player and then double around or support would be the go..and that’s where he could have been very dangerous..!

                He's a winger who can cover fullback. The lack of another kicking option has hurt us

                Remember Perofeta was probably first choice. He's injured, Trainor is injured and Collins is not good enough.
                It's hard to criticise his selection at the back

                @Steven-Harris said in Reds v Blues:

                I will reiterate he’s played bloody well this season..but why has the consistency in his game taken so long..?
                Maybe Leon McDonald..?

                Not Umaga? Debut season was very good under Kirwan. Stagnated for 3 years. Another good season now.
                Maybe they clashed?

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                @Duluth Umaga chose Collins ahead of Nanai because of his communication skills despite Nanai being a far superior player. Nanai's always been fantastic when given a go. Not his fault Umaga fucked him around so badly.

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                  Referee: Brendon Pickerill
                  AR1: Mike Fraser
                  AR2: Jordan Way
                  TMO: James Leckie

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                    Referee: Brendon Pickerill
                    AR1: Mike Fraser
                    AR2: Jordan Way
                    TMO: James Leckie

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                    Steven Harris
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                    @Stargazer with Pickerall as the whistleblower..Blues will need their cleaners to be right on the ball..Pickerall not favourable to the player holding the ball on the ground at the tackle once the tackle has been made..

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                      Blues ... Reds...ref Pickerall...

                      This has Cripple Fight written all over it.

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                        A Blues win means they'll be 3rd in the nz conference.

                        Which means they will lose.

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                          Surley the Blues can win this fukin game

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                            Then on the other hand I just saw who the ref is muppet no2

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                              Surley the Blues can win this fukin game

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                              @Chris stobit ...!lol

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                                Surley the Blues can win this fukin game

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                                African Monkey
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                                @Chris Based on what? We look pretty average on paper. Reds to win in a close one imo.

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                                  @African-Monkey Based on sick of hearing they are improving,McDonald making a difference
                                  Stand the Fuk up time so I am picking the Blues to win .

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                                    If they don’t I am never ever fukin ever picking them to win again

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                                      @African-Monkey Based on sick of hearing they are improving,McDonald making a difference
                                      Stand the Fuk up time so I am picking the Blues to win .

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                                      Canes4life
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                                      @Chris Yeah I'm sick of this 'the Blues have nearly turned a corner' garbage, if they've turned a corner then they win this game comfortably.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @Chris Yeah I'm sick of this 'the Blues have nearly turned a corner' garbage, if they've turned a corner then they win this game comfortably.

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                                        @Canes4life yeah exactly

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                                          Blues don't win games comfortably.

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