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Hurricanes v Blues

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  • DiceD Dice

    @gt12 said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    Two past U20s hookers - neither of who can ducking throw. Who is training them? Or are they lazy? There are only really two options...

    They might put a lot of work on it, but I'm wondering if it's a mechanics thing. It might be like how some guys can't shoot free throws in the NBA despite shooting 1000s of them in practice each month.

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    @Dice

    In which case they shouldn’t be hookers?

    But, also that’s coaching and practice. For example, it maybe that they throw perfectly at practice, but poor in game situations. That can fixed with some flexible coaching and training.

    I’ve only played amateur shit, but here we used to make our hooker throw at the end of practice, after we were all fucking gassed, in contested line outs against our best jumpers, and only the forwards ran for every not straight.

    They fucking hammered him for every not straight, and pretty soon he was never not down the middle unless it was a typhoon. He practiced like a _____fudger though. Like, being able to hit a specific point on a pole from 10 meters, 20 times in a row.

    We had similar drills for our halfback - then the backs ran. I fucking hated that little c____ until he got accurate.

    Edit: I forgot to add that our two hookers didn’t run, just the other forwards. Same for the halfbacks.

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    • CanerbryC Canerbry

      You know, with a change of coach and a bit of luck, next year the Blues could finish as high as 11th.

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      @Canerbry You are being unfair.

      If they changed their coach, sign BB and Jordie and have a bit of luck, next year the Blues could finish as high as 9th, I reckon.

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      • GunnerG Gunner

        @Canerbry said in Hurricanes v Blues:

        You know, with a change of coach and a bit of luck, next year the Blues could finish as high as 11th.

        😂😂😂😂 Thats @Canerbry at his trolling best

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        @Gunner He pulls that line out about 5 times a year lol.

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          This was really satisfying win as a Canes fan. Bunch of rookies really stepped up and got the result. Really impressed with Peter Umaga-Jensen at centre, I would keep him there through the playoffs.

          Really impressed at Fletcher Smiths cameo off the bench at Fullback.

          And wow, the Canes had more wins than the Crusaders this year.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            This was really satisfying win as a Canes fan. Bunch of rookies really stepped up and got the result. Really impressed with Peter Umaga-Jensen at centre, I would keep him there through the playoffs.

            Really impressed at Fletcher Smiths cameo off the bench at Fullback.

            And wow, the Canes had more wins than the Crusaders this year.

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            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:

            Really impressed with Peter Umaga-Jensen at centre, I would keep him there through the playoffs.

            6 missed tackles

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              This was really satisfying win as a Canes fan. Bunch of rookies really stepped up and got the result. Really impressed with Peter Umaga-Jensen at centre, I would keep him there through the playoffs.

              Really impressed at Fletcher Smiths cameo off the bench at Fullback.

              And wow, the Canes had more wins than the Crusaders this year.

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              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:

              This was really satisfying win as a Canes fan. Bunch of rookies really stepped up and got the result. Really impressed with Peter Umaga-Jensen at centre, I would keep him there through the playoffs.

              Really impressed at Fletcher Smiths cameo off the bench at Fullback.

              And wow, the Canes had more wins than the Crusaders this year.

              Also more losses.

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                I though Garden-Bachop was the player who impressed me the most right now. If only he played like that more often.

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                  Really impressed with Peter Umaga-Jensen at centre, I would keep him there through the playoffs.

                  6 missed tackles

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                  @Duluth probably more of a combination thing. First game together and all that. He was the pick of the backs last week aswell.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                    This was really satisfying win as a Canes fan. Bunch of rookies really stepped up and got the result. Really impressed with Peter Umaga-Jensen at centre, I would keep him there through the playoffs.

                    Really impressed at Fletcher Smiths cameo off the bench at Fullback.

                    And wow, the Canes had more wins than the Crusaders this year.

                    Also more losses.

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                    @Stargazer did you enjoy Jonah Lowe getting run down by Plummer? I thought he was meant to be Hawkes Bays finest?

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @Stargazer did you enjoy Jonah Lowe getting run down by Plummer? I thought he was meant to be Hawkes Bays finest?

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                      @Canes4life Haha, you can't handle me pointing out a fact, so you decide to attack a Magpies player. Pathetic. But to answer your question, Lowe has been out of action for 4 months. It will take a little longer to get back to full speed. And Plummer isn't exactly slow either. He has shown that in other games as well.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @Stargazer did you enjoy Jonah Lowe getting run down by Plummer? I thought he was meant to be Hawkes Bays finest?

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                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                        @Stargazer did you enjoy Jonah Lowe getting run down by Plummer? I thought he was meant to be Hawkes Bays finest?

                        Careful there C4L as Stargazer might start counting the number of times Alex Fidow fell to the ground during scrums in the time he was on the field.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Canes4life Haha, you can't handle me pointing out a fact, so you decide to attack a Magpies player. Pathetic. But to answer your question, Lowe has been out of action for 4 months. It will take a little longer to get back to full speed. And Plummer isn't exactly slow either. He has shown that in other games as well.

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                          @Stargazer It's because you harp on about Hawkes Bay players not being given a fair chance compared to Wellingtonians. Maybe they aren't good enough. If he is as good as you suggest, he wins that race to the line every day of the week.

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                            @Stargazer It's because you harp on about Hawkes Bay players not being given a fair chance compared to Wellingtonians. Maybe they aren't good enough. If he is as good as you suggest, he wins that race to the line every day of the week.

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                            @Canes4life How can anyone know whether players are or aren't good enough without giving them game time? All players in the squad need to get their opportunities. That has always been my point and it still stands.

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                            • HigginsH Higgins

                              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                              @Stargazer did you enjoy Jonah Lowe getting run down by Plummer? I thought he was meant to be Hawkes Bays finest?

                              Careful there C4L as Stargazer might start counting the number of times Alex Fidow fell to the ground during scrums in the time he was on the field.

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                              @Higgins a 22 year old prop still learning his craft goes down a few times throughout the 50 mins he's on the field, whoop dee doo. He will only get better in that area. Did you catch the try he set up after running over Parsons, or the big tackles he was putting in on defence. Shit tone better than Toomaga Allen already and he's only just started.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Nonu shouldn't have been on the bench. He's too old and has brought little in recent weeks.

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                                @Tim agree totally with that. Nonu started ok but fell off the pace in the 2nd half of the last few games.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @Higgins a 22 year old prop still learning his craft goes down a few times throughout the 50 mins he's on the field, whoop dee doo. He will only get better in that area. Did you catch the try he set up after running over Parsons, or the big tackles he was putting in on defence. Shit tone better than Toomaga Allen already and he's only just started.

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                                  @Canes4life He gets touted as the next big thing as a prop. I have yet to see it in his propping exhibitions displayed during his very limited Super Rugby experiences. Incidentally if his "goes down a few times" happens hard on defence it can have major consequences.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @Canes4life How can anyone know whether players are or aren't good enough without giving them game time? All players in the squad need to get their opportunities. That has always been my point and it still stands.

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                                    @Stargazer Fair enough, but they also need to take those chances and if Lowe wants to feature more often going forward he needs to finish those tries off, because guys like Goosen and Aso have been doing it for the past two seasons. Essentially if he wants to start he needs to be better than those blokes. Really liked the jibe of young Toala.

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                                    • HigginsH Higgins

                                      @Canes4life He gets touted as the next big thing as a prop. I have yet to see it in his propping exhibitions displayed during his very limited Super Rugby experiences. Incidentally if his "goes down a few times" happens hard on defence it can have major consequences.

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                                      @Higgins I agree, he has to be better in that area if he wants to reach the highest level, but to be fair he is only 22. Given the right coaching he will be okay IMO. Shown glimpses of being a good scrummager, but just needs that consistency. He is very impressive in all other aspects of the game, which will allow him to put more focus into his scrummaging going forward.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @Stargazer Fair enough, but they also need to take those chances and if Lowe wants to feature more often going forward he needs to finish those tries off, because guys like Goosen and Aso have been doing it for the past two seasons. Essentially if he wants to start he needs to be better than those blokes. Really liked the jibe of young Toala.

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                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                                        @Stargazer Really liked the jibe of young Toala.

                                        I did too but thought he did struggle reading the defence duties needed a couple of times. Perhaps he found the huge difference in pace the game is played at in Super Rugby compared to NPC a bit challenging. SOmething that can be oversome with a few more runs at the quicker higher level.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Stargazer Fair enough, but they also need to take those chances and if Lowe wants to feature more often going forward he needs to finish those tries off, because guys like Goosen and Aso have been doing it for the past two seasons. Essentially if he wants to start he needs to be better than those blokes. Really liked the jibe of young Toala.

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                                          @Canes4life Goosen and Aso have had plenty of opportunities before they started playing well. Particularly Goosen has taken years to become a good player, but at least he got plenty of opportunities. Lowe gets a short run after 4 months on the sideline; only his 2nd cap for the Canes in 3 years. Demanding he's better than guys who've had plenty of game time is hugely unfair and ridiculous. What he needs is stringing games together. Hopefully next year.

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