QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs
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Respect to the Haguaries, that was impressive. But the Chiefs had that. How shit was the lineout.
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My initial thoughts..
Congratulations to the Jaguaries..great for their fans and probably the compOn the Chiefs..they will look back on this game as a missed opportunity, some of their best players decided to leave their hands at home, it was a little like watching the Blues in the 2nd half with all the handling errors..
To me that game was there for the taking ,but with a shoddy lineout means you hand the opposition more ball which then brings indiscipline..
Best of the Chiefs I thought were ALB,Alaimalo and Debreczini while he was on, says something when your best 3 are backs..
Thought the set piece scrum was superb but as mention the hookers could not hit the side of a barn from 5 metres today..Even as a Blues supporter I do have respect for the Chiefs as despite all the injuries, they have kept themselves in the fight towards the finals..plenty of ticker in this team despite this mornings result..
Just a shame the early experiment of playing DMac at first five backfired ,I have since heard there was some All Black coaches influence in that selection which if I were a chiefs supporter that would piss me off no end.
Also a real shame Jack Debreczini was out for most of the season because we have seen what he bought to the 10 jersey once given an opportunity..
Gee if the Chiefs don’t re sign him , I personally would have him ahead of Otere Black every day of the week and twice on a Sunday ..
Hold you head up chiefs supporters..under the circumstances not a bad season. -
Based on the pre-match talking up by that Jag fan, Chiefs musta played outta thier skins to be so close...
Seriously though, well done Jags, also kept my multi alive.
Bummer for the Brumbies having to get on that big bird to BA.
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Based on the pre-match talking up by that Jag fan, Chiefs musta played outta thier skins to be so close...
Seriously though, well done Jags, also kept my multi alive.
Bummer for the Brumbies having to get on that big bird to BA.
@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
Based on the pre-match talking up by that Jag fan, Chiefs musta played outta thier skins to be so close...
Seriously though, well done Jags, also kept my multi alive.
Bummer for the Brumbies having to get on that big bird to BA.
Jaguares were okay in the game but did enough to win & deserved to win
Chiefs were nullified in the 2nd half minus a good 5 min spell near Jagaures goaline
This was why I was so confident they would win
Jaguares have 2nd best Points differential in the 2nd half in Super Rugby
Today they won 13-7 in 2nd halfChiefs apart from their scrums and set piece attacks off them were really poor overall
In general play they struggled to challenge Jaguares D
I counted FOURTEEN handling errors from Chiefs
Most of them forced by line speed in defence Most unlike a NZ side
Still game was in doubt for a while
Chiefs best players were their Back 3 and Debrizieni
You can;t win knockout games like that
Finally Jaguares crowd was
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Well, shit. Sounds like it's good for my Saturday demeanor that I didn't watch a minute of it.
Congrats Jags and fans, and best of luck for next weekend
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My initial thoughts..
Congratulations to the Jaguaries..great for their fans and probably the compOn the Chiefs..they will look back on this game as a missed opportunity, some of their best players decided to leave their hands at home, it was a little like watching the Blues in the 2nd half with all the handling errors..
To me that game was there for the taking ,but with a shoddy lineout means you hand the opposition more ball which then brings indiscipline..
Best of the Chiefs I thought were ALB,Alaimalo and Debreczini while he was on, says something when your best 3 are backs..
Thought the set piece scrum was superb but as mention the hookers could not hit the side of a barn from 5 metres today..Even as a Blues supporter I do have respect for the Chiefs as despite all the injuries, they have kept themselves in the fight towards the finals..plenty of ticker in this team despite this mornings result..
Just a shame the early experiment of playing DMac at first five backfired ,I have since heard there was some All Black coaches influence in that selection which if I were a chiefs supporter that would piss me off no end.
Also a real shame Jack Debreczini was out for most of the season because we have seen what he bought to the 10 jersey once given an opportunity..
Gee if the Chiefs don’t re sign him , I personally would have him ahead of Otere Black every day of the week and twice on a Sunday ..
Hold you head up chiefs supporters..under the circumstances not a bad season.@Steven-Harris agree with most of that.
But I didn’t think ALB was one of the Chiefs best. He was driven back in almost every carry. Didn’t hit the line at speed like he usually does. He was well contained which is a credit to the Jags defence.
There were chances to win for the Chiefs but I thought there was a drop in composure when the starting 9/10 combo were replaced.
Well done Jags. A close contest by two very evenly matched teams.
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Good riddance Chiefs. The dross is quickly being weeded out in these quarter-finals, as it should be. Now i want the Sharks to win tonight and in BA so we hopefully get a chance to avenge that draw.
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@shark cant see the Sharks winning tonight, nor
the Brumbies next week.@taniwharugby i can see the Sharks winning tonight but i dont genuinely see them winning again in BA.
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@Steven-Harris agree with most of that.
But I didn’t think ALB was one of the Chiefs best. He was driven back in almost every carry. Didn’t hit the line at speed like he usually does. He was well contained which is a credit to the Jags defence.
There were chances to win for the Chiefs but I thought there was a drop in composure when the starting 9/10 combo were replaced.
Well done Jags. A close contest by two very evenly matched teams.
@ACT-Crusader fair enough..
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@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
Based on the pre-match talking up by that Jag fan, Chiefs musta played outta thier skins to be so close...
Seriously though, well done Jags, also kept my multi alive.
Bummer for the Brumbies having to get on that big bird to BA.
Jaguares were okay in the game but did enough to win & deserved to win
Chiefs were nullified in the 2nd half minus a good 5 min spell near Jagaures goaline
This was why I was so confident they would win
Jaguares have 2nd best Points differential in the 2nd half in Super Rugby
Today they won 13-7 in 2nd halfChiefs apart from their scrums and set piece attacks off them were really poor overall
In general play they struggled to challenge Jaguares D
I counted FOURTEEN handling errors from Chiefs
Most of them forced by line speed in defence Most unlike a NZ side
Still game was in doubt for a while
Chiefs best players were their Back 3 and Debrizieni
You can;t win knockout games like that
Finally Jaguares crowd was
@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
I counted FOURTEEN handling errors from Chiefs
Most of them forced by line speed in defence Most unlike a NZ side
I haven't seen the game, but I disagree with this. It is not unlike a NZ side to make mistakes when facing a strong rush defence. Line speed is the way to force NZ sides into mistakes and spoil their rhythm. The British Lions showed the way and as yet NZ sides have not consistently been able to overcome the rush defence (when done well).
That's why I am nervous about the World Cup.
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@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
I counted FOURTEEN handling errors from Chiefs
Most of them forced by line speed in defence Most unlike a NZ side
I haven't seen the game, but I disagree with this. It is not unlike a NZ side to make mistakes when facing a strong rush defence. Line speed is the way to force NZ sides into mistakes and spoil their rhythm. The British Lions showed the way and as yet NZ sides have not consistently been able to overcome the rush defence (when done well).
That's why I am nervous about the World Cup.
@Crazy-Horse said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
I counted FOURTEEN handling errors from Chiefs
Most of them forced by line speed in defence Most unlike a NZ side
I haven't seen the game, but I disagree with this. It is not unlike a NZ side to make mistakes when facing a strong rush defence. Line speed is the way to force NZ sides into mistakes and spoil their rhythm. The British Lions showed the way and as yet NZ sides have not consistently been able to overcome the rush defence (when done well).
That's why I am nervous about the World Cup.
We're probably in teh wrong thread, but Lions test 1 showed how to overcome that - good inside balls, hard running and offloading all night. Ireladn last year was a bit of an aberration - if we get held to 9 points, it's going to be damn hard to win. Well done to them - but we looked well off our game that night.
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Hamazing hags scrape past a misfiring Chiefs at home. Hand them the trophy!
How funny were the scrums though, those hags really are tough. And everyone marvel at the hags hamazing kicking, just wow.
Also had to laugh at Weber's new found pass accuracy, after Sowakula knocked on one dribbling at his feet or Sam Cane's knee smashed the pass forward for the umpteenth time. Was extremely noticeable how TTT's passes were going directly to hand.
Debres... Debrez... Jack D is good eh, going to be handy next season.
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Hamazing hags scrape past a misfiring Chiefs at home. Hand them the trophy!
How funny were the scrums though, those hags really are tough. And everyone marvel at the hags hamazing kicking, just wow.
Also had to laugh at Weber's new found pass accuracy, after Sowakula knocked on one dribbling at his feet or Sam Cane's knee smashed the pass forward for the umpteenth time. Was extremely noticeable how TTT's passes were going directly to hand.
Debres... Debrez... Jack D is good eh, going to be handy next season.
@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
unny were the scrums though, those hags really are tough. And everyone marvel at the hags hamazing kicking, just wow.
Also had to laugh at Weber's new found pass accurWhy so salty!!!! :loudly_crying_face: :loudly_crying_face:
Not a beauty contest Just about winning ugly
Jaguares played their worst game since they lost to Highlanders 6 weeks ago and STILL WON......
I understand it's hard for you to comprehend a NZ team being outplayed & outfought physically and tactically by a bunch of Argentinians but you'll get there in the end
Poor BIG BAD Brodie Retallick face at the end of the game was like he'd gone 12 rounds with Mike Tyson
Might have to rename him BRICK HAND Brodie Retallick with the number of times he dropped the pill :face_screaming_in_fear: :face_screaming_in_fear: :face_screaming_in_fear:
Jaguares scrum has been crap all season Only reason why teams have got any losing BP out of them but Lineouts are were you really lose games
6 lost lineouts lost was embarrassing Petti was creating havoc
But hey you get to watch Jaguares host the Brumbies next Sunday morning NZ time :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:
Enjoy
