RWC: England v Australia (QF 1)
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I'd like some sign of reform, in terms of aligning national interests from the professional level up.
Our depth is still rubbish.
Cheika has to go for picking Genia if nothing else
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
I'd like some sign of reform, in terms of aligning national interests from the professional level up.
Our depth is still rubbish.
Losing Kerevi won't help. Two of the three locks from last night as well. There's a paucity of halfbacks too. If Joe Powell is the next best, things aren't so rosy.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit
Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.
If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice
He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?
Of course.
If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.
But that's not why Australia lost.
But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.
Because the White in shining armour made such a difference
The fucking irony. Some criticism of Genia and you're running to his rescue. No one said White had a good game, just that he passes quicker from the ruck than Genia does and if you're looking to play with a high tempo as Australia did, that's what you want.
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit
Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.
If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice
He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?
Of course.
If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.
But that's not why Australia lost.
But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.
Because the White in shining armour made such a difference
The fucking irony. Some criticism of Genia and you're running to his rescue. No one said White had a good game, just that he passes quicker from the ruck than Genia does and if you're looking to play with a high tempo as Australia did, that's what you want.
Australia lost because in critical situations when players were in space and possession despite Genia's shit service they
Lost the ball in contact
Lost the ball through poor handling
Passed rubbishly to an England player
Kicked rubbishly to an England playerAustralia had more than enough ball and territory to beat England.
They fucked up too many chances.
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@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit
Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.
If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice
He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?
Of course.
If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.
But that's not why Australia lost.
But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.
Because the White in shining armour made such a difference
The fucking irony. Some criticism of Genia and you're running to his rescue. No one said White had a good game, just that he passes quicker from the ruck than Genia does and if you're looking to play with a high tempo as Australia did, that's what you want.
Australia lost because in critical situations when players were in space and possession despite Genia's shit service they
Lost the ball in contact
Lost the ball through poor handling
Passed rubbishly to an England player
Kicked rubbishly to an England playerAustralia had more than enough ball and territory to beat England.
They fucked up too many chances.
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit
Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.
If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice
He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?
Of course.
If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.
But that's not why Australia lost.
But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.
Because the White in shining armour made such a difference
The fucking irony. Some criticism of Genia and you're running to his rescue. No one said White had a good game, just that he passes quicker from the ruck than Genia does and if you're looking to play with a high tempo as Australia did, that's what you want.
Australia lost because in critical situations when players were in space and possession despite Genia's shit service they
Lost the ball in contact
Lost the ball through poor handling
Passed rubbishly to an England player
Kicked rubbishly to an England playerAustralia had more than enough ball and territory to beat England.
They fucked up too many chances.
None of which has any relevance to my point.
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@barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
I'm starting to think you might not be a Genia fan, Nick
He's always talked about as a great halfback, but he hasn't been that for years. Waste of time bringing him back when other development could have been done
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit
Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.
If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice
He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?
Of course.
If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.
But that's not why Australia lost.
But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.
Because the White in shining armour made such a difference
I doubt I’m the only one who’s noticed Aussies wanting White yanked whenhe starts a game so Genia can get the backline moving and the same thing in reverse when Genia starts .
@jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit
Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.
If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice
He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?
Of course.
If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.
But that's not why Australia lost.
But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.
Because the White in shining armour made such a difference
I doubt I’m the only one who’s noticed Aussies wanting White yanked whenhe starts a game so Genia can get the backline moving and the same thing in reverse when Genia starts .
Unfortunately that was the story of the lead-in Tests - the starter looked crap because the finisher was fresh.
Who'dathunk?
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@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit
Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.
If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice
He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?
Of course.
If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.
But that's not why Australia lost.
But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.
Because the White in shining armour made such a difference
The fucking irony. Some criticism of Genia and you're running to his rescue. No one said White had a good game, just that he passes quicker from the ruck than Genia does and if you're looking to play with a high tempo as Australia did, that's what you want.
Australia lost because in critical situations when players were in space and possession despite Genia's shit service they
Lost the ball in contact
Lost the ball through poor handling
Passed rubbishly to an England player
Kicked rubbishly to an England playerAustralia had more than enough ball and territory to beat England.
They fucked up too many chances.
@MiketheSnow add in played dumb.
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@MiketheSnow add in played dumb.
@taniwharugby said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow add in played dumb.
Listen, that’s the way we play footy, I’m not going to go to a kick-and-defend game. Call me naive but that’s not what I’m going to do,” Cheika said.
“I’d rather win it our way or no way. That’s the way Aussies want us to play.”
What a moron, Ozzies want you to win you self centred ego maniac fluffybunny!
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@MiketheSnow add in played dumb.
Listen, that’s the way we play footy, I’m not going to go to a kick-and-defend game. Call me naive but that’s not what I’m going to do,” Cheika said.
“I’d rather win it our way or no way. That’s the way Aussies want us to play.”
What a moron, Ozzies want you to win you self centred ego maniac fluffybunny!
@Machpants win smart. That's what we used to do when our forwards were hanging on by their fingernails.
Now we've got a forward pack with a bit of grunt, we're pissing it away
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Money quote
Cheika also said he had "no relationship" with Rugby Australia chief executive Raelene Castle and chairman Cameron Clyne.
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I'm sure if they had the cash, they'd have terminated their relationship long ago.
Anyone with a brain would've insisted on KPIs to maintain his job.
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@jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
McKenzie was reportedly very poor at man management. Didn't care what happened of the park as long as nobody heard about it. Hence the Dublin incident
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Why is Englands game plan devoid of usingb2 of their weapons: Watson and Tuilagi? The latter was pretty much anonymous for most of the game.
@taniwharugby said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
Why is Englands game plan devoid of usingb2 of their weapons: Watson and Tuilagi? The latter was pretty much anonymous for most of the game.
I'm hoping it is a dry powder exercise
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@jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
McKenzie was reportedly very poor at man management. Didn't care what happened of the park as long as nobody heard about it. Hence the Dublin incident
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
McKenzie was reportedly very poor at man management. Didn't care what happened of the park as long as nobody heard about it. Hence the Dublin incident
Speaking to Tony Brown the other week and he said player management and the ability to instill belief is the biggest part of coaching at that level. There's plenty of analysis and ability to coach, but that's what separates coaches at Test level.
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@jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
McKenzie was reportedly very poor at man management. Didn't care what happened of the park as long as nobody heard about it. Hence the Dublin incident
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
McKenzie was reportedly very poor at man management. Didn't care what happened of the park as long as nobody heard about it. Hence the Dublin incident
I don't Krusty was particularly good at any part of a coaches core functions by the the looks of things . Just another bluffer that somehow got the top job.
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@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
McKenzie was reportedly very poor at man management. Didn't care what happened of the park as long as nobody heard about it. Hence the Dublin incident
I don't Krusty was particularly good at any part of a coaches core functions by the the looks of things . Just another bluffer that somehow got the top job.
@jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
@jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):
McKenzie was reportedly very poor at man management. Didn't care what happened of the park as long as nobody heard about it. Hence the Dublin incident
I don't Krusty was particularly good at any part of a coaches core functions by the the looks of things . Just another bluffer that somehow got the top job.
I think he had to be reasonably able when you look at his achievements in Europe and Support Rugby. Record win over the All Blacks. Rwc2015 final and a rugby championship.
But the successes are outweighed by the failures, and that's coaching
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