RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2)

mariner4life

this game will be fucking interesting from a tactical point of view. I think Wales will be happy to take the Boks on in a game of set piece and grunt. And then back themselves to have a moment or two of attacking magic.

Both teams are well coached, and well led, so getting to the front with 10 to go is the key.

It's not going to be pretty, but it's going to be bloody good to watch.

Duluth

@mariner4life said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

then back themselves to have a moment or two of attacking magic.

I think the Boks defence will win it

Faf to cause havoc shooting out ahead of the line

mariner4life

@Duluth said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

@mariner4life said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

then back themselves to have a moment or two of attacking magic.

I think the Boks defence will win it

Faf to cause havoc shooting out ahead of the line

that's an interesting alignment they have created. Having him defend wide, and using his quick feet to shoot up and make spot tackles. He's a really good defender for a halfback too.

If they tackle with the accuracy and the power that they did on Sunday then Wales are really going to struggle to break them down. The difference will come if Wales can win a couple of collisions in a row, and not allow that defensive line to just reset and reset.

No Quarter

@mariner4life said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

@Duluth said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

@mariner4life said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

then back themselves to have a moment or two of attacking magic.

I think the Boks defence will win it

Faf to cause havoc shooting out ahead of the line

that's an interesting alignment they have created. Having him defend wide, and using his quick feet to shoot up and make spot tackles. He's a really good defender for a halfback too.

If they tackle with the accuracy and the power that they did on Sunday then Wales are really going to struggle to break them down. The difference will come if Wales can win a couple of collisions in a row, and not allow that defensive line to just reset and reset.

SA defense was brutal against the Japanese. Their tactic of battering them into submission was a good one.

But the Welsh are a much better match physically, they won't take a step back and will dish out plenty themselves.

Going to be an epic match for the hits alone I reckon.

Duluth

@mariner4life said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

that's an interesting alignment they have created. Having him defend wide, and using his quick feet to shoot up and make spot tackles. He's a really good defender for a halfback too.

I love watching it when its not against NZ.

They keep a tight line behind him too. So there's no space directly behind when he shoots. There's space wide if your skills are good enough

Bovidae

@Duluth said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

Faf to cause havoc shooting out ahead of the line

I didn't think Faf was always onside when he did that against Japan. But that's on the ARs.

NTA

Boks by 8

antipodean

booboo

@antipodean said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

Don't start that again ...

Billy Webb

@antipodean said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

Zulu and Zulu Dawn are real classics.
Many decades ago, I did my matric thesis on the Battle of Isandlwana - why the British lost so heavily - so this is a topic close to my heart. The follow up, Battle of Rorkes Drift resulted in 11 Victoria Crosses mainly to the Welsh 2nd/24th Foot Regiment.

I am hoping there is no repeat of such bravery this Sunday!

Billy Webb

Another interesting factoid for those of you who have nothing better to do with your time...

The movie clip reminded me about the fact that the Springboks used to have a "haka" they would perform before test matches. It was a Zulu war dance called the Idlamu (or sometimes spelled Indlamu). It was largely reserved for when we played the All Blacks.

In the 1950's, in a spat with NZ about players of colour, the National Party government and SA Rugby pulled it. This ideologically suited the Nat Government who didn't like the fact that a Zulu dance was being used in the first place. It hasn't featured again since.

A great shame.

If you have 15 minutes to waste, this is a great video to watch:

Bovidae

No Kolbe due to an ankle injury.

Tendai Mtawarira
Mbongeni Mbonambi
Frans Malherbe
Eben Etzebeth
Lood de Jager
Siya Kolisi (capt.)
Pieter-Steph Du Toit
Duane Vermeulen
Faf de Klerk
Handre Pollard
Makazole Mapimpi
Damian de Allende
Lukhanyo Am
S'Busiso Nkosi
Willie Le Roux
Malcolm Marx
Steven Kitshoff
Vincent Koch
RG Snyman
Franco Mostert
Francois Louw
Herschel Jantjies
Frans Steyn

Machpants

That would be a big blow, if they actually we're going to make use of him!

Billy Webb

6-2 bench split.
Tells you all you want to know about the Bok approach.

Kolbe missing out due to injury is a real shame.
@Machpants while the Boks aren't inclined to shift the ball to the wings that often, Kolbe has been outstanding under the high ball. Boks will miss that.

voodoo

That's a real shame re Kolbe, he's been an absolute star - hopefully he is back for the finals against us

:winking_face:

Bovidae

@Billy-Webb said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

6-2 bench split.
Tells you all you want to know about the Bok approach.

More of the same.

If the Welsh can get the ball wide to North and Adams they can expose the lack of defence from the Bok wingers.

voodoo

But seriously, why would you change the approach? Sure the attack last week needed some polish - but that brutal defense and solid kicking game (Faf to sharpen up a little) is a RWC-winning approach.

No point trying to be something you're not.

Catogrande

@Billy-Webb said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

@antipodean said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

Zulu and Zulu Dawn are real classics.
Many decades ago, I did my matric thesis on the Battle of Isandlwana - why the British lost so heavily - so this is a topic close to my heart. The follow up, Battle of Rorkes Drift resulted in 11 Victoria Crosses mainly to the Welsh 2nd/24th Foot Regiment.

I am hoping there is no repeat of such bravery this Sunday!

Wasn't there an issue with the ammunition cases being locked and only one key? Or am I thinking of another Imprerial balls up?

Billy Webb

@Catogrande said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

Wasn't there an issue with the ammunition cases being locked and only one key? Or am I thinking of another Imprerial balls up?

Yes. One of many bugger-ups was the supply of ammo to the soldiers in the firing lines. Traditionally controlled by the Quartermaster it became a bottleneck.
Towards the latter part of the battle, soldiers were disobeying the rules and trying to break open the ammo boxes with their bayonets.

chimoaus

Just showing my ignorance here but aren't Marx and Titsoff the best in their positions, why don't they start?

The Silver Fern

RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2)