RWC Final: England v Springboks
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I am well old enough to remember... This feels just like 1995. Well, actually even a bit better.
In 95, I was delighted the Boks had made it to the finals. But we were such massive underdogs in the final I expected the Boks to come up short, which takes some of the tension out of the week leading up to the game. Downside was we had never won a RWC before, and I was desperate for us to get our name on the trophy.
Again, the Boks are the clear underdogs in this 2019 final. In many respects, just having made it this far already feels good. If you had asked me 2 seasons ago when the likes of Italy could beat us what a good RWC result for the Boks would be, I would have said getting to and winning a Qtr Final.
Of course I want us to win the bloody thing. Of course i will be disappointed not to win it. But that disappointment won't be OTT. Given where we have come from fairly recently, I am already seriously chuffed with how this tournament went for us.
And Rassie and his team can take the credit for that. I just hope that the coaching team that replaces him after the RWC continue the build.
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I am well old enough to remember... This feels just like 1995. Well, actually even a bit better.
In 95, I was delighted the Boks had made it to the finals. But we were such massive underdogs in the final I expected the Boks to come up short, which takes some of the tension out of the week leading up to the game. Downside was we had never won a RWC before, and I was desperate for us to get our name on the trophy.
Again, the Boks are the clear underdogs in this 2019 final. In many respects, just having made it this far already feels good. If you had asked me 2 seasons ago when the likes of Italy could beat us what a good RWC result for the Boks would be, I would have said getting to and winning a Qtr Final.
Of course I want us to win the bloody thing. Of course i will be disappointed not to win it. But that disappointment won't be OTT. Given where we have come from fairly recently, I am already seriously chuffed with how this tournament went for us.
And Rassie and his team can take the credit for that. I just hope that the coaching team that replaces him after the RWC continue the build.
@Billy-Webb I can't see your boys as massive underdogs just based on one England performance. You've just won two really tough games on the trot, yes with a limited game plan, but there is more to the Boks than that. Much closer to evens in my book with England maybe shading the favourites tag. Not sure what the bookies think but that's bound to be skewed by a load of bandwagon jumpers frothing over our semi-final performance.
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Considering how both teams tackle there should be some awesome hits
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Considering how both teams tackle there should be some awesome hits
@mariner4life said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Considering how both teams tackle there should be some awesome hits
Hopefully no cards!
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@mariner4life said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Considering how both teams tackle there should be some awesome hits
Hopefully no cards!
@Billy-Webb I could live with a card on Farrell...
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@Billy-Webb I could live with a card on Farrell...
@Smuts said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Billy-Webb I could live with a card on Farrell...
Karma
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@Billy-Webb I could live with a card on Farrell...
@Smuts said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Billy-Webb I could live with a card on Farrell...
Can you get a card for shoving your face into someone's hand?
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@Smuts said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Billy-Webb I could live with a card on Farrell...
Can you get a card for shoving your face into someone's hand?
@pakman said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Smuts said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Billy-Webb I could live with a card on Farrell...
Can you get a card for shoving your face into someone's hand?
No.
But you should get a card (and 10-week suspension) for then acting like a namby-pamby poofballer. -
@pakman said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Smuts said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Billy-Webb I could live with a card on Farrell...
Can you get a card for shoving your face into someone's hand?
No.
But you should get a card (and 10-week suspension) for then acting like a namby-pamby poofballer.@Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@pakman said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Smuts said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Billy-Webb I could live with a card on Farrell...
Can you get a card for shoving your face into someone's hand?
No.
But you should get a card (and 10-week suspension) for then acting like a namby-pamby poofballer.Sad fact is Nige wanted to ref final.
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@Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@pakman said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Smuts said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Billy-Webb I could live with a card on Farrell...
Can you get a card for shoving your face into someone's hand?
No.
But you should get a card (and 10-week suspension) for then acting like a namby-pamby poofballer.Sad fact is Nige wanted to ref final.
@pakman I think the refs were instructed to hold back on the cards as much as possible in the knockout games. Only one was handed out if I remember correctly?
Guess it's either Nigel or one of the Froggies that gets the final.
Peyper or more likely Barnes get the 3rd/4th game.
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@pakman I think the refs were instructed to hold back on the cards as much as possible in the knockout games. Only one was handed out if I remember correctly?
Guess it's either Nigel or one of the Froggies that gets the final.
Peyper or more likely Barnes get the 3rd/4th game.
@Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@pakman I think the refs were instructed to hold back on the cards as much as possible in the knockout games. Only one was handed out if I remember correctly?
Guess it's either Nigel or one of the Froggies that gets the final.
Peyper or more likely Barnes get the 3rd/4th game.
Is Gardner out of the running? God I hope it's Nige.
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@pakman I think the refs were instructed to hold back on the cards as much as possible in the knockout games. Only one was handed out if I remember correctly?
Guess it's either Nigel or one of the Froggies that gets the final.
Peyper or more likely Barnes get the 3rd/4th game.
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@Billy-Webb There have been three cards in the knockouts.
Yellows for Matt Todd and Ross Moriarty.
Red card for the elbow from Sebastian Vahaamahina.
@sparky Thanks Sparky. It is extremely worrying that my short term memory is so completely kak.
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Hahaha. The President of SA just trolled the UK Prime Minister:
@Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Hahaha. The President of SA just trolled the UK Prime Minister:
Subtlety not his strong point
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@Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Hahaha. The President of SA just trolled the UK Prime Minister:
Subtlety not his strong point
@booboo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Hahaha. The President of SA just trolled the UK Prime Minister:
Subtlety not his strong point
Saffers are always subtle. As subtle as a wounded buffalo
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@Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Hahaha. The President of SA just trolled the UK Prime Minister:
Subtlety not his strong point
@booboo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Hahaha. The President of SA just trolled the UK Prime Minister:
Subtlety not his strong point
Neither is his memory when it comes to cricket.
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I really haven't seen much of the Boks in 2019, missed most of the rugby championship, but assumed they had a solid side with their thrashing of the Wallabies and draw with NZ. They looked good in patches vs ABs, but were very average against Wales. A solid pack who will hold their own, 9, 10, 12 looked pretty handy then nothing beyond that, The ball skills of the back 3 were dreadful, virtually every high ball that they had to contest was dropped, quick, but little power, little penetration, they just didn't look dangerous when they got the ball out wide. I expect SA to play a kicking game, but if they can't challenge for the ball without knocking it out, it's just going to hand the game to England.
De Allende went well, but the the Welsh defence was ordinary when he scored his try. He will most definitely be targeted and nullified. England will have to play really shit to lose this.
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So Garces considered the best ref picking up the final...
Poite,O'Keefe as ARs Skeen as TMO
