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Blues v Chiefs

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

    @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

    Blues halves are still as weak as piss.

    Can't say Im too optimistic about the season ahead. When is BB available for a run in blue?

    Beaudie is due back in April

    Doubt he makes a big impact this season
    Chiefs

    Blues first 11 games include 2 games in SA vs Bulls/Stormers, Crusaders twice Hurricanes twice & Jaguares They'll do well to win 3 games

    1st game after bye for Blues is in Christchurch then a home game again Canes πŸ‘€

    This is one of the problems with the current system. I don't know exactly how the draw is done but the lower ranked teams from the previous year seem to get a hard road the following year making it even harder to get the momentum required to get out of the cellar.
    I get that there are some games probably etched in for marketing reasons and that the conference system doesn't help kiwi teams (the need to play each other twice) but the travel always comes early for the lower ranked teams and the travel is against the 'better' overseas franchises.
    We have yet to see any lower team make great gains during the conference era.
    From a pure marketing and interest pop this is a major failing. Seeing an underdog climb out of the swamp is a highlight in sporting comps and gathers great interest and publicity. Protecting and nurturing teams that have already won gets boring.

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    @Crucial

    SR not designed to allow teams to rise quickly form "worst to first" ala NFL for example

    For a team like Blues to play eight NZ derbies is brutal
    Hence they're stuck in a vicious cycle

    Thankfully from next year SR reverts to Round Robin Format - 13 games with 2 byes that'll enhance the quality of the Comp

    Round Robin format will suit NZ teams as they'll have fewer derbies

    Jaguares will also benefit as they'll have 3 fewer road games every 2 years Even then they've won 7 out of last 9
    games in AUS/NZ

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      @mariner4life

      A reminder that Rotorua is in the BOP as well. πŸ™‚

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/119130728/super-rugby-kaleb-trask-stunned-to-start-for-chiefs-ahead-of-idol-aaron-cruden

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      • M macandcheese

        @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

        @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

        Blues halves are still as weak as piss.

        Can't say Im too optimistic about the season ahead. When is BB available for a run in blue?

        Beaudie is due back in April

        Doubt he makes a big impact this season
        Chiefs

        Blues first 11 games include 2 games in SA vs Bulls/Stormers, Crusaders twice Hurricanes twice & Jaguares They'll do well to win 3 games

        1st game after bye for Blues is in Christchurch then a home game again Canes πŸ‘€

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        KiwiMurph
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        #122

        @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

        @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

        @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

        Blues halves are still as weak as piss.

        Can't say Im too optimistic about the season ahead. When is BB available for a run in blue?

        Beaudie is due back in April

        Doubt he makes a big impact this season
        Chiefs

        Blues first 11 games include 2 games in SA vs Bulls/Stormers, Crusaders twice Hurricanes twice & Jaguares They'll do well to win 3 games

        1st game after bye for Blues is in Christchurch then a home game again Canes πŸ‘€

        I think all this makes this weekend's game very important for the Blues. They seem to specialise in losing in a close entertaining NZ derby to start the season.

        They need to find a way to get over the hump this weekend.

        A home NZ derby and probably not a bad time to play the Chiefs - with such a tough early schedule Blues need to find a way to win this weekend.

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        • M macandcheese

          @JK

          Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
          Got a kicking game & a big frame

          Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

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          @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

          @JK

          Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
          Got a kicking game & a big frame

          Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

          Please no....I struggle with having even one of Perofeta, Black and Plumber on the field. All are mediocre at best

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          • JKJ JK

            @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

            @JK

            Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
            Got a kicking game & a big frame

            Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

            Please no....I struggle with having even one of Perofeta, Black and Plumber on the field. All are mediocre at best

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            Crucial
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            #124

            @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

            @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

            @JK

            Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
            Got a kicking game & a big frame

            Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

            Please no....I struggle with having even one of Perofeta, Black and Plumber on the field. All are mediocre at best

            ....and not a solution for the Blues biggest weakness, which in my eyes is getting a team on board with having a 10 direct them around the park.
            College rugby in the region breeds 10s that shovel the ball more than necessary and midfields that want the ball every time to run into someone, get up and do it all again.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

              @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

              @JK

              Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
              Got a kicking game & a big frame

              Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

              Please no....I struggle with having even one of Perofeta, Black and Plumber on the field. All are mediocre at best

              ....and not a solution for the Blues biggest weakness, which in my eyes is getting a team on board with having a 10 direct them around the park.
              College rugby in the region breeds 10s that shovel the ball more than necessary and midfields that want the ball every time to run into someone, get up and do it all again.

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              @Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:

              @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

              @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

              @JK

              Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
              Got a kicking game & a big frame

              Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

              Please no....I struggle with having even one of Perofeta, Black and Plumber on the field. All are mediocre at best

              ....and not a solution for the Blues biggest weakness, which in my eyes is getting a team on board with having a 10 direct them around the park.
              College rugby in the region breeds 10s that shovel the ball more than necessary and midfields that want the ball every time to run into someone, get up and do it all again.

              The Blues biggest weakness is 9. It's as clear as day.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:

                @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

                @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

                @JK

                Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
                Got a kicking game & a big frame

                Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

                Please no....I struggle with having even one of Perofeta, Black and Plumber on the field. All are mediocre at best

                ....and not a solution for the Blues biggest weakness, which in my eyes is getting a team on board with having a 10 direct them around the park.
                College rugby in the region breeds 10s that shovel the ball more than necessary and midfields that want the ball every time to run into someone, get up and do it all again.

                The Blues biggest weakness is 9. It's as clear as day.

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                @KiwiMurph a quality 10 can make an average 9 look good (I know, I had a former professional 10 play outside me when I was playing 9 for a few games, man I thought I had cracked it...) similarly a quality 9 can make an average 10 look good, but right now, Blues have neither (in the quality camp)

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:

                  @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

                  @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

                  @JK

                  Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
                  Got a kicking game & a big frame

                  Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

                  Please no....I struggle with having even one of Perofeta, Black and Plumber on the field. All are mediocre at best

                  ....and not a solution for the Blues biggest weakness, which in my eyes is getting a team on board with having a 10 direct them around the park.
                  College rugby in the region breeds 10s that shovel the ball more than necessary and midfields that want the ball every time to run into someone, get up and do it all again.

                  The Blues biggest weakness is 9. It's as clear as day.

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                  #127

                  @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

                  @Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:

                  @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

                  @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

                  @JK

                  Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
                  Got a kicking game & a big frame

                  Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

                  Please no....I struggle with having even one of Perofeta, Black and Plumber on the field. All are mediocre at best

                  ....and not a solution for the Blues biggest weakness, which in my eyes is getting a team on board with having a 10 direct them around the park.
                  College rugby in the region breeds 10s that shovel the ball more than necessary and midfields that want the ball every time to run into someone, get up and do it all again.

                  The Blues biggest weakness is 9. It's as clear as day.

                  I thought it was the boardroom?

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

                    @Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:

                    @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

                    @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

                    @JK

                    Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
                    Got a kicking game & a big frame

                    Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

                    Please no....I struggle with having even one of Perofeta, Black and Plumber on the field. All are mediocre at best

                    ....and not a solution for the Blues biggest weakness, which in my eyes is getting a team on board with having a 10 direct them around the park.
                    College rugby in the region breeds 10s that shovel the ball more than necessary and midfields that want the ball every time to run into someone, get up and do it all again.

                    The Blues biggest weakness is 9. It's as clear as day.

                    I thought it was the boardroom?

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                    KiwiMurph
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                    #128

                    @Hooroo said in Blues v Chiefs:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

                    @Crucial said in Blues v Chiefs:

                    @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

                    @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

                    @JK

                    Blues should consider moving Plummer to Inside Centre
                    Got a kicking game & a big frame

                    Perofeta to Full Back with Otere Black Backing up Barrett

                    Please no....I struggle with having even one of Perofeta, Black and Plumber on the field. All are mediocre at best

                    ....and not a solution for the Blues biggest weakness, which in my eyes is getting a team on board with having a 10 direct them around the park.
                    College rugby in the region breeds 10s that shovel the ball more than necessary and midfields that want the ball every time to run into someone, get up and do it all again.

                    The Blues biggest weakness is 9. It's as clear as day.

                    I thought it was the boardroom?

                    There have been significant changes in the boardroom over the last 18 months.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @KiwiMurph a quality 10 can make an average 9 look good (I know, I had a former professional 10 play outside me when I was playing 9 for a few games, man I thought I had cracked it...) similarly a quality 9 can make an average 10 look good, but right now, Blues have neither (in the quality camp)

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                      @taniwharugby said in Blues v Chiefs:

                      @KiwiMurph a quality 10 can make an average 9 look good (I know, I had a former professional 10 play outside me when I was playing 9 for a few games, man I thought I had cracked it...) similarly a quality 9 can make an average 10 look good, but right now, Blues have neither (in the quality camp)

                      Yeah, it is fair to say that the halves together are an issue, and a good player in either position can lift the game of the other. Of the two though the 10 is more important.
                      .
                      Blues should ave snapped up Taumeteine before the Canes did. He was showing good signs but was caught in the log jam of 9s at the Chiefs. He would have seen more time at the Blues as well.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

                        @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

                        Blues halves are still as weak as piss.

                        Can't say Im too optimistic about the season ahead. When is BB available for a run in blue?

                        Beaudie is due back in April

                        Doubt he makes a big impact this season
                        Chiefs

                        Blues first 11 games include 2 games in SA vs Bulls/Stormers, Crusaders twice Hurricanes twice & Jaguares They'll do well to win 3 games

                        1st game after bye for Blues is in Christchurch then a home game again Canes πŸ‘€

                        I think all this makes this weekend's game very important for the Blues. They seem to specialise in losing in a close entertaining NZ derby to start the season.

                        They need to find a way to get over the hump this weekend.

                        A home NZ derby and probably not a bad time to play the Chiefs - with such a tough early schedule Blues need to find a way to win this weekend.

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                        @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

                        @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

                        @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

                        Blues halves are still as weak as piss.

                        Can't say Im too optimistic about the season ahead. When is BB available for a run in blue?

                        Beaudie is due back in April

                        Doubt he makes a big impact this season
                        Chiefs

                        Blues first 11 games include 2 games in SA vs Bulls/Stormers, Crusaders twice Hurricanes twice & Jaguares They'll do well to win 3 games

                        1st game after bye for Blues is in Christchurch then a home game again Canes πŸ‘€

                        I think all this makes this weekend's game very important for the Blues. They seem to specialise in losing in a close entertaining NZ derby to start the season.

                        They need to find a way to get over the hump this weekend.

                        A home NZ derby and probably not a bad time to play the Chiefs - with such a tough early schedule Blues need to find a way to win this weekend.

                        That's why I find the dropping of Akira a bit odd. All good and well not running him into the ground this year but surely you want your best players on the park for a first up derby game.

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                        • ToddyT Toddy

                          @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

                          @macandcheese said in Blues v Chiefs:

                          @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

                          @JK said in Blues v Chiefs:

                          Blues halves are still as weak as piss.

                          Can't say Im too optimistic about the season ahead. When is BB available for a run in blue?

                          Beaudie is due back in April

                          Doubt he makes a big impact this season
                          Chiefs

                          Blues first 11 games include 2 games in SA vs Bulls/Stormers, Crusaders twice Hurricanes twice & Jaguares They'll do well to win 3 games

                          1st game after bye for Blues is in Christchurch then a home game again Canes πŸ‘€

                          I think all this makes this weekend's game very important for the Blues. They seem to specialise in losing in a close entertaining NZ derby to start the season.

                          They need to find a way to get over the hump this weekend.

                          A home NZ derby and probably not a bad time to play the Chiefs - with such a tough early schedule Blues need to find a way to win this weekend.

                          That's why I find the dropping of Akira a bit odd. All good and well not running him into the ground this year but surely you want your best players on the park for a first up derby game.

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                          @Toddy it will certainly be criticised if they lose.

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                            Dmac out of the opener with and Abductor strain! 😞

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @mariner4life

                              A reminder that Rotorua is in the BOP as well. πŸ™‚

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/119130728/super-rugby-kaleb-trask-stunned-to-start-for-chiefs-ahead-of-idol-aaron-cruden

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                              @Bovidae said in Blues v Chiefs:

                              @mariner4life

                              A reminder that Rotorua is in the BOP as well. πŸ™‚

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/119130728/super-rugby-kaleb-trask-stunned-to-start-for-chiefs-ahead-of-idol-aaron-cruden

                              I believe Trask is/was a school buddy of my nephew so I hope he goes well.

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                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/119142712/chiefs-star-damian-mckenzie-pulls-out-of-super-rugby-opener-with-blues-with-injury

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                                  Fark! Was looking forward to seeing his comeback.

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                                    So Trask will definitely be the goal kicker. No pressure young fella.

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                                      Shaun Stevenson is still better than anyone the Blues can play at 15.

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                                        Bugger re Dmac!

                                        Taking the lads and they were keen to see him play too.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Shaun Stevenson is still better than anyone the Blues can play at 15.

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                                          @Tim said in Blues v Chiefs:

                                          Shaun Stevenson is still better than anyone the Blues can play at 15.

                                          That's debatable. He is hot and cold.

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