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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    [quote name='Death']<br />
    [quote]* How Often We Eat<br />
          Our metabolic rate increases during digestion of food, a process known as the Thermal Effect of food. In simple terms, if we go too long without food (5 hours for men; 3 hours for women), our body thinks there is a food shortage and our metabolism tends to slow down.[/quote]<br />
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    Cretinous pseudo-scientific babble....  Yes it does increase when we eat, but the explicit corollary in this statement (that it slows down if we don't), is unproven in realistic daily terms (I accept it's true if you don't eat for, say, 2 weeks).  The only logical deduction is that your metabolic rate rises whenever you eat - at 2 minute or 2 hour intervals.  This is true- but it's not about weight loss, it's about the increased energy demands of digesting as opposed to lying there doing nothing.  The effect of the time interval is irrelevant compared to the metabolic effect of 'exercise' - shock horror.  Your body will take far more notice of an hour on the treadmill than it will the difference between having eaten half an hour or 3 hours ago... <br />
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    Basic principle remains - whatever your body wants to do, if you shovel less energy in than it's burning, weight will come off.<br />
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    A lot of bodybuilders disagree with you, and it's hard to argue with their results.

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    Death
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    Their results are due to phenomenal effort: at that level, whatever dietary regime they follow will be subordinate to the calorific, training, and mental effects of their dedication.  Any athlete has 'lucky rabbit's feet', whether magic diets, visualisation, special clothes, or a great trainer... I don't deny the value of healthy diet, but for the average ferner trying to lose some weight, agonising over '3 squares' or '15 mini-snacks' is farkin irrelevant.  Just get yer arse outside, get yer heart rate up, and eat/drink less calories.  Within a month, you'll lose flab, regain muscle and feel better... Conversely, expecting a change to a magical '15 snacks a day routine' without other lifestyle changes to transform you into adonis is bollocky poo poo...  But hey, whatever motivates!  When I was at my most insanely fit, I was stuffing anything I could find down my neck, because I was burning over 8000 calories a day - we all felt more or less constantly nauseous, because of the distended gut.  I'm just saying, focus on the big issues - energy in, energy out, and a bearable, enjoyable, long term exercise regime.  All else is tweaking the edges..

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    Kirwan
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    I don't disagree about the exercise, but not everybody is going to exercise that much. Anything else that helps on top of effort is a good thing.<br />
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    And it's only six meals, three normal and three snacks in between - not the end of the world.

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    Death
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    [quote]And it's only six meals, three normal and three snacks in between - not the end of the world.[/quote]<br />
    I've got to admit, that sounds like my sort of weight loss program!! <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />  Double my intake... <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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    If I don't exercise I tend to lose weight. Over one 8-month period where I became a lazy bugger, never ate the healhiest and just bummed around (I tried to play rugby but received a knee injury in my 1st game for Waverley!), I went from 89kg and was 80kg when I arrived back in NZ.<br />
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    Hi I'm spanner, how's your works?

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    Kirwan
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    [quote name='Bones']<br />
    If I don't exercise I tend to lose weight. Over one 8-month period where I became a lazy bugger, never ate the healhiest and just bummed around (I tried to play rugby but received a knee injury in my 1st game for Waverley!), I went from 89kg and was 80kg when I arrived back in NZ.<br />
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    Hi I'm spanner, how's your works?<br />
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    Muscle weighs more than fat, you lost your muscle and became flabby - so weighed less.

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    Bones
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    [quote name='Kirwan']<br />
    [quote name='Bones']<br />
    If I don't exercise I tend to lose weight. Over one 8-month period where I became a lazy bugger, never ate the healhiest and just bummed around (I tried to play rugby but received a knee injury in my 1st game for Waverley!), I went from 89kg and was 80kg when I arrived back in NZ.<br />
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    Hi I'm spanner, how's your works?<br />
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    Muscle weighs more than fat, you lost your muscle and became flabby - so weighed less.<br />
    [/quote]Actually, more likely lost both, seems odd, but nah, wasn't flabby.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    Was just taking the piss

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  • BonesB Offline
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    Bones
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    [quote name='Kirwan']<br />
    Was just taking the piss<br />
    [/quote]It wasn't clear, was yellow.

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    Death
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    Kirwan's correct in principle though: if you lost weight over time, it's because you were either losing muscle mass, and/or eating less calories than you were burning.  Unless, of course, you are a genetically modified superhuman who can deny the laws of physics... <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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