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Blues v Highlanders

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    I'm struggling to compare an interview and a running pick up? Is this the politics forum?

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    • T trodthesod

      I loved this game.A true hard fought Kiwi derby.The wonderful moments silence for the fallen Constable Hunt,with helicopter above.The emotion of Caleb Clarke who had in recent hours lost his grandfather,then being able to honour him with his try.The continuation of the Blues resurgence for most of the first half.Then the great fight back from the tenacious Highlanders who got their noses in front shortly after half time.This coinciding with the worst period of play from the Blues these last three games.Two lost lineouts,very poor box kicks and general sloppiness.Then regrouping and scoring a majestic driving maul try.The impetuosity of the veteran hooker diving over the ruck to drop the ball short,and a dangerous breakout .The cruel mistakes from the young Scott Gregory from probing kicks,he is a much better player than that.The most beautiful pickup of a ball at speed from Beauden Barrett,just class.Then to finish this enthralling encounter,the three battles won in the war when the trenches were threatened,down in the far corner,the maul,the scrum and the lineout.The newly arrived hooker with a grenade in his hand to be lobbed into said lineout.You could almost feel his trepidation.The sweat of the coaches who could only sit and watch.Great game!!

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      @trodthesod best game of SRA so far.

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        I’m watching the replay now, and I can’t understand how the landers try was disallowed? It was clearly kicked out of his hands by Ioane but it turns out that’s not what he was carded for (offside apparently)

        Why the fuck have video refs if they can’t step up and make the right calls?

        It should be another penalty advantage and the try should stand and Ioane should get ten.

        Edit: I see it wasn' game changing at least, as they scored pretty much straight away, which is good.

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          @mofitzy_ said in Blues v Highlanders:

          @trodthesod

          The most beautiful pickup of a ball at speed from Beauden Barrett,just class.

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          Beaudy is just so skillful in the way he can do little things when space is at a premium. Makes things look so easy.

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            @mofitzy_ said in Blues v Highlanders:

            @trodthesod

            The most beautiful pickup of a ball at speed from Beauden Barrett,just class.

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            Beaudy is just so skillful in the way he can do little things when space is at a premium. Makes things look so easy.

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            @pakman said in Blues v Highlanders:

            @mofitzy_ said in Blues v Highlanders:

            @trodthesod

            The most beautiful pickup of a ball at speed from Beauden Barrett,just class.

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            Beaudy is just so skillful in the way he can do little things when space is at a premium. Makes things look so easy.

            BB is some player as I've been saying for some time.

            Sam Cane, Sam Whitelock, Aaron Smith and Beauden Barrett. All going to be picked for the ABs (if injury free) for a little while more yet.

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            • gt12G gt12

              I’m watching the replay now, and I can’t understand how the landers try was disallowed? It was clearly kicked out of his hands by Ioane but it turns out that’s not what he was carded for (offside apparently)

              Why the fuck have video refs if they can’t step up and make the right calls?

              It should be another penalty advantage and the try should stand and Ioane should get ten.

              Edit: I see it wasn' game changing at least, as they scored pretty much straight away, which is good.

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              @gt12 Worked out better for the Highlanders funnily enough haha. Ioane gets binned and they end up scoring closer to the posts.

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              • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                @gt12 Worked out better for the Highlanders funnily enough haha. Ioane gets binned and they end up scoring closer to the posts.

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                @African-Monkey said in Blues v Highlanders:

                @gt12 Worked out better for the Highlanders funnily enough haha. Ioane gets binned and they end up scoring closer to the posts.

                100%

                If it was a yellow card before scoring, it was a YC after scoring. But you have to be clear and consistent on what gets you a YC

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                  Really impressed with our prop depth - might be as good as I've ever seen it. We now have 6 solid props to work with.

                  Who knew Renata could scrum so well at loosehead? Small sample, but he's looked real dominate there.

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                  • DiceD Dice

                    Really impressed with our prop depth - might be as good as I've ever seen it. We now have 6 solid props to work with.

                    Who knew Renata could scrum so well at loosehead? Small sample, but he's looked real dominate there.

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                    @Dice said in Blues v Highlanders:

                    Really impressed with our prop depth - might be as good as I've ever seen it. We now have 6 solid props to work with.

                    Who knew Renata could scrum so well at loosehead? Small sample, but he's looked real dominate there.

                    Afeaki has done a really nice job since taking over.

                    He's brought the Blues scrum a long way since the dark days of Sam Prattley!

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                      Now the dust has settled on that great battle last Saturday,and watching a replay of that maul where the Blues held the ball up.,the question I have is this.Given that Sotutu was legal,are the backs coming in from the side ok? If they are not the reaction of Tom Coventry in the box is understandable.Phew!

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                      • T trodthesod

                        Now the dust has settled on that great battle last Saturday,and watching a replay of that maul where the Blues held the ball up.,the question I have is this.Given that Sotutu was legal,are the backs coming in from the side ok? If they are not the reaction of Tom Coventry in the box is understandable.Phew!

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                        @trodthesod said in Blues v Highlanders:

                        Now the dust has settled on that great battle last Saturday,and watching a replay of that maul where the Blues held the ball up.,the question I have is this.Given that Sotutu was legal,are the backs coming in from the side ok? If they are not the reaction of Tom Coventry in the box is understandable.Phew!

                        Nope! Got away with a little there 🙂

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                        • T trodthesod

                          Now the dust has settled on that great battle last Saturday,and watching a replay of that maul where the Blues held the ball up.,the question I have is this.Given that Sotutu was legal,are the backs coming in from the side ok? If they are not the reaction of Tom Coventry in the box is understandable.Phew!

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                          @trodthesod said in Blues v Highlanders:

                          Now the dust has settled on that great battle last Saturday,and watching a replay of that maul where the Blues held the ball up.,the question I have is this.Given that Sotutu was legal,are the backs coming in from the side ok? If they are not the reaction of Tom Coventry in the box is understandable.Phew!

                          i didn't think they were legal, looked like Clarke, christie and black all just flew in the side once they saw the ball was being held up.

                          I've heard people say that once the ball is held up its a free for all, maybe if it was still a tackle but my understanding is he had called Maul and until he blows up the maul they should have come from the back

                          I'me bias thought so who knows

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @trodthesod said in Blues v Highlanders:

                            Now the dust has settled on that great battle last Saturday,and watching a replay of that maul where the Blues held the ball up.,the question I have is this.Given that Sotutu was legal,are the backs coming in from the side ok? If they are not the reaction of Tom Coventry in the box is understandable.Phew!

                            i didn't think they were legal, looked like Clarke, christie and black all just flew in the side once they saw the ball was being held up.

                            I've heard people say that once the ball is held up its a free for all, maybe if it was still a tackle but my understanding is he had called Maul and until he blows up the maul they should have come from the back

                            I'me bias thought so who knows

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in Blues v Highlanders:

                            I've heard people say that once the ball is held up its a free for all

                            Those people don't know what the fuck they're talking about. There's always an offside line for a maul in the field of play.

                            OFFSIDE AT A MAUL

                            Each team has an offside line that runs parallel to the goal line through the maul participants’ hindmost foot that is nearest to that team’s goal line. If that foot is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.

                            • A player must either join a maul from an onside position or retire behind their offside line immediately. Sanction: Penalty.

                            JOINING A MAUL

                            Players joining a maul must:

                            • Do so from an onside position.
                            • Bind on to the hindmost player in the maul.
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                              trodthesod
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                              Thank you for clearing that up.
                              The Blues obviously dodged one there.You win some and you lose some! Perhaps the ref had already called held up.

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                I've heard people say that once the ball is held up its a free for all

                                Those people don't know what the fuck they're talking about. There's always an offside line for a maul in the field of play.

                                OFFSIDE AT A MAUL

                                Each team has an offside line that runs parallel to the goal line through the maul participants’ hindmost foot that is nearest to that team’s goal line. If that foot is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.

                                • A player must either join a maul from an onside position or retire behind their offside line immediately. Sanction: Penalty.

                                JOINING A MAUL

                                Players joining a maul must:

                                • Do so from an onside position.
                                • Bind on to the hindmost player in the maul.
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                                @antipodean said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                I've heard people say that once the ball is held up its a free for all

                                Those people don't know what the fuck they're talking about. There's always an offside line for a maul in the field of play.

                                OFFSIDE AT A MAUL

                                Each team has an offside line that runs parallel to the goal line through the maul participants’ hindmost foot that is nearest to that team’s goal line. If that foot is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.

                                • A player must either join a maul from an onside position or retire behind their offside line immediately. Sanction: Penalty.

                                JOINING A MAUL

                                Players joining a maul must:

                                • Do so from an onside position.
                                • Bind on to the hindmost player in the maul.

                                I see that stipulation being ignored a lot in all games, particularly when the backs join an attacking maul

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                                • T trodthesod

                                  Thank you for clearing that up.
                                  The Blues obviously dodged one there.You win some and you lose some! Perhaps the ref had already called held up.

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                                  @trodthesod said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                  Thank you for clearing that up.
                                  The Blues obviously dodged one there.You win some and you lose some! Perhaps the ref had already called held up.

                                  That’s what I’m going with, was up for a while.

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @trodthesod said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                    Now the dust has settled on that great battle last Saturday,and watching a replay of that maul where the Blues held the ball up.,the question I have is this.Given that Sotutu was legal,are the backs coming in from the side ok? If they are not the reaction of Tom Coventry in the box is understandable.Phew!

                                    i didn't think they were legal, looked like Clarke, christie and black all just flew in the side once they saw the ball was being held up.

                                    I've heard people say that once the ball is held up its a free for all, maybe if it was still a tackle but my understanding is he had called Maul and until he blows up the maul they should have come from the back

                                    I'me bias thought so who knows

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                    @trodthesod said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                    Now the dust has settled on that great battle last Saturday,and watching a replay of that maul where the Blues held the ball up.,the question I have is this.Given that Sotutu was legal,are the backs coming in from the side ok? If they are not the reaction of Tom Coventry in the box is understandable.Phew!

                                    i didn't think they were legal, looked like Clarke, christie and black all just flew in the side once they saw the ball was being held up.

                                    I've heard people say that once the ball is held up its a free for all, maybe if it was still a tackle but my understanding is he had called Maul and until he blows up the maul they should have come from the back

                                    I'me bias thought so who knows

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                                    Yeah, I'm not sure what the deal is there, because you often see that when a player is held up in general play even if the ref calls "maul".

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                                      Yeah it’s one of the many inconsistencies you see with reffing of the maul. Similarly you rarely see a penalty for collapsing when the attacking side pulls down the maul to try and free up a “held up” player or the defence collapses that same maul to get the turnover.

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                                      • pukunuiP pukunui

                                        Yeah it’s one of the many inconsistencies you see with reffing of the maul. Similarly you rarely see a penalty for collapsing when the attacking side pulls down the maul to try and free up a “held up” player or the defence collapses that same maul to get the turnover.

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                                        @pukunui I think there was one early on in this game!

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                                        • T trodthesod

                                          Thank you for clearing that up.
                                          The Blues obviously dodged one there.You win some and you lose some! Perhaps the ref had already called held up.

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                                          @trodthesod said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                          Thank you for clearing that up.
                                          The Blues obviously dodged one there.You win some and you lose some! Perhaps the ref had already called held up.

                                          looking at it, I think the ruling was that the ball carrier detached and the maul was therefore over - that's when everyone ran in as it became a tackle situation, and joining the tackle seems a bit lax.

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