Chiefs v Highlanders
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Just watched it again with volume up, and I reckon the AR must’ve seen something because when the refs came together after the DMac dotted down, they were pretty quick to refer it and at least one of them said so.
And I think someone mentioned it earlier that these types of situations often get overlooked. I don’t think they do. The refs are pretty good at picking it up.
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@gt12 said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
There is no way we have enough depth for 8 strong teams, what a fucking dream
But we do, 8 teams would be at least the equal to the level of the 5 in Oz
@Machpants said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
There is no way we have enough depth for 8 strong teams, what a fucking dream
But we do, 8 teams would be at least the equal to the level of the 5 in Oz
We also don’t know how good a lot of the fringe players could get if they given several games in a row rather than filling in here and there
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So the whole game chat is a minute law discussion?
Cute
@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
So the whole game chat is a minute law discussion?
Cute
Well it's not, but hey it was a pretty tight game. Why not discuss seemingly minute things.
Oh and...look at the scoreboard.
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What a comeback!
Smith is playing fucking well this year. Has to be the form player in NZ.Frizell and MMT were good too. I’ve said it before but it is crazy the depth coming through for that 6/8 spot that has been such an issue since Kaino left.
Boshier would be a good shot at the third choice 7
for the ABs. Not sure he is actually supporting his own body weight for some of those turnovers though.On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
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What a comeback!
Smith is playing fucking well this year. Has to be the form player in NZ.Frizell and MMT were good too. I’ve said it before but it is crazy the depth coming through for that 6/8 spot that has been such an issue since Kaino left.
Boshier would be a good shot at the third choice 7
for the ABs. Not sure he is actually supporting his own body weight for some of those turnovers though.On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
Just watched. My goodness. I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but there is something about seeing Aaron Mauger and Tony Brown celebrating at the expense of Gatland that warms my heart.
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When you look at the guys upfront who finished that game for the Chiefs, three things become apparent:
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The chiefs have been hurt by injuries - rather than Moli finishing up, we have Geldenhys
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The chiefs have been hurt by injuries and coaches don’t know what the fuck they are doing - Nel is playing club rugby while old man Thomson gets a run
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There is no way we have enough depth for 8 strong teams, what a fucking dream
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What a comeback!
Smith is playing fucking well this year. Has to be the form player in NZ.Frizell and MMT were good too. I’ve said it before but it is crazy the depth coming through for that 6/8 spot that has been such an issue since Kaino left.
Boshier would be a good shot at the third choice 7
for the ABs. Not sure he is actually supporting his own body weight for some of those turnovers though.On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
remember George Clancy in SA and the Forward Pass?
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/tmo-calls-a-forward-pass-after-all-blacks-appear-to-have-scored/OK with the protocols being ignored? What if it was 5 phases back, or 6 ... or offside at the kickoff? How far back do you go?
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/content.php?184-George-Clancy-the-TMO&langid=3
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@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
remember George Clancy in SA and the Forward Pass?
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/tmo-calls-a-forward-pass-after-all-blacks-appear-to-have-scored/OK with the protocols being ignored? What if it was 5 phases back, or 6 ... or offside at the kickoff? How far back do you go?
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/content.php?184-George-Clancy-the-TMO&langid=3
@nzzp said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
remember George Clancy in SA and the Forward Pass?
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/tmo-calls-a-forward-pass-after-all-blacks-appear-to-have-scored/OK with the protocols being ignored? What if it was 5 phases back, or 6 ... or offside at the kickoff? How far back do you go?
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/content.php?184-George-Clancy-the-TMO&langid=3
It’s not ideal i agree. However, making the correct call is 1000x more important IMO. This game was a perfect example. If they ignore their initial fuck up, which the touch judge clearly saw because he subsequently pointed it out, because it went through one phase too many then the game is over and we never get to see one of the best comebacks in years. Or they go back 10-20m and make the correct call.
This situation also highlights that the two phase protocol is a stupid arbitrary line. Why two phases? That is hardly anything in the context of the game. Why isn’t it the last break in play like they do with foul play? Two phases is likely to lead to legitimate infringements getting missed
or the ref being over cautious and blowing a play up when he otherwise could have let it go and checked back. -
@nzzp said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
remember George Clancy in SA and the Forward Pass?
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/tmo-calls-a-forward-pass-after-all-blacks-appear-to-have-scored/OK with the protocols being ignored? What if it was 5 phases back, or 6 ... or offside at the kickoff? How far back do you go?
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/content.php?184-George-Clancy-the-TMO&langid=3
It’s not ideal i agree. However, making the correct call is 1000x more important IMO. This game was a perfect example. If they ignore their initial fuck up, which the touch judge clearly saw because he subsequently pointed it out, because it went through one phase too many then the game is over and we never get to see one of the best comebacks in years. Or they go back 10-20m and make the correct call.
This situation also highlights that the two phase protocol is a stupid arbitrary line. Why two phases? That is hardly anything in the context of the game. Why isn’t it the last break in play like they do with foul play? Two phases is likely to lead to legitimate infringements getting missed
or the ref being over cautious and blowing a play up when he otherwise could have let it go and checked back.@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@nzzp said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
remember George Clancy in SA and the Forward Pass?
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/tmo-calls-a-forward-pass-after-all-blacks-appear-to-have-scored/OK with the protocols being ignored? What if it was 5 phases back, or 6 ... or offside at the kickoff? How far back do you go?
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/content.php?184-George-Clancy-the-TMO&langid=3
It’s not ideal i agree. However, making the correct call is 1000x more important IMO. This game was a perfect example. If they ignore their initial fuck up, which the touch judge clearly saw because he subsequently pointed it out, because it went through one phase too many then the game is over and we never get to see one of the best comebacks in years. Or they go back 10-20m and make the correct call.
This situation also highlights that the two phase protocol is a stupid arbitrary line. Why two phases? That is hardly anything in the context of the game. Why isn’t it the last break in play like they do with foul play? Two phases is likely to lead to legitimate infringements getting missed
or the ref being over cautious and blowing a play up when he otherwise could have let it go and checked back.because it's rugby, it's not supposed to be perfect. If you miss it in real time, tough shit. Call it, or don't call it. Stop being half pregnant.
Also there is so much subjective stuff in a game of rugby, that a try could be rubbed out for a difference of opinion.
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@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@nzzp said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
remember George Clancy in SA and the Forward Pass?
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/tmo-calls-a-forward-pass-after-all-blacks-appear-to-have-scored/OK with the protocols being ignored? What if it was 5 phases back, or 6 ... or offside at the kickoff? How far back do you go?
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/content.php?184-George-Clancy-the-TMO&langid=3
It’s not ideal i agree. However, making the correct call is 1000x more important IMO. This game was a perfect example. If they ignore their initial fuck up, which the touch judge clearly saw because he subsequently pointed it out, because it went through one phase too many then the game is over and we never get to see one of the best comebacks in years. Or they go back 10-20m and make the correct call.
This situation also highlights that the two phase protocol is a stupid arbitrary line. Why two phases? That is hardly anything in the context of the game. Why isn’t it the last break in play like they do with foul play? Two phases is likely to lead to legitimate infringements getting missed
or the ref being over cautious and blowing a play up when he otherwise could have let it go and checked back.because it's rugby, it's not supposed to be perfect. If you miss it in real time, tough shit. Call it, or don't call it. Stop being half pregnant.
Also there is so much subjective stuff in a game of rugby, that a try could be rubbed out for a difference of opinion.
@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@nzzp said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
remember George Clancy in SA and the Forward Pass?
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/tmo-calls-a-forward-pass-after-all-blacks-appear-to-have-scored/OK with the protocols being ignored? What if it was 5 phases back, or 6 ... or offside at the kickoff? How far back do you go?
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/content.php?184-George-Clancy-the-TMO&langid=3
It’s not ideal i agree. However, making the correct call is 1000x more important IMO. This game was a perfect example. If they ignore their initial fuck up, which the touch judge clearly saw because he subsequently pointed it out, because it went through one phase too many then the game is over and we never get to see one of the best comebacks in years. Or they go back 10-20m and make the correct call.
This situation also highlights that the two phase protocol is a stupid arbitrary line. Why two phases? That is hardly anything in the context of the game. Why isn’t it the last break in play like they do with foul play? Two phases is likely to lead to legitimate infringements getting missed
or the ref being over cautious and blowing a play up when he otherwise could have let it go and checked back.because it's rugby, it's not supposed to be perfect. If you miss it in real time, tough shit. Call it, or don't call it. Stop being half pregnant.
Also there is so much subjective stuff in a game of rugby, that a try could be rubbed out for a difference of opinion.
Yeah sweet, no need for TMOs or touch judges then. Or the citing commissioner. If it doesn’t get dealt with then and there by the ref then get over it.
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@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@nzzp said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
remember George Clancy in SA and the Forward Pass?
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/tmo-calls-a-forward-pass-after-all-blacks-appear-to-have-scored/OK with the protocols being ignored? What if it was 5 phases back, or 6 ... or offside at the kickoff? How far back do you go?
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/content.php?184-George-Clancy-the-TMO&langid=3
It’s not ideal i agree. However, making the correct call is 1000x more important IMO. This game was a perfect example. If they ignore their initial fuck up, which the touch judge clearly saw because he subsequently pointed it out, because it went through one phase too many then the game is over and we never get to see one of the best comebacks in years. Or they go back 10-20m and make the correct call.
This situation also highlights that the two phase protocol is a stupid arbitrary line. Why two phases? That is hardly anything in the context of the game. Why isn’t it the last break in play like they do with foul play? Two phases is likely to lead to legitimate infringements getting missed
or the ref being over cautious and blowing a play up when he otherwise could have let it go and checked back.because it's rugby, it's not supposed to be perfect. If you miss it in real time, tough shit. Call it, or don't call it. Stop being half pregnant.
Also there is so much subjective stuff in a game of rugby, that a try could be rubbed out for a difference of opinion.
Yeah sweet, no need for TMOs or touch judges then. Or the citing commissioner. If it doesn’t get dealt with then and there by the ref then get over it.
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@nzzp said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@pukunui said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
On the Dmac non try. The fuck up was them missing the offside in the first place. Having a whinge about them correcting the mistake is stupid.
remember George Clancy in SA and the Forward Pass?
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/tmo-calls-a-forward-pass-after-all-blacks-appear-to-have-scored/OK with the protocols being ignored? What if it was 5 phases back, or 6 ... or offside at the kickoff? How far back do you go?
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/content.php?184-George-Clancy-the-TMO&langid=3
It’s not ideal i agree. However, making the correct call is 1000x more important IMO. This game was a perfect example. If they ignore their initial fuck up, which the touch judge clearly saw because he subsequently pointed it out, because it went through one phase too many then the game is over and we never get to see one of the best comebacks in years. Or they go back 10-20m and make the correct call.
This situation also highlights that the two phase protocol is a stupid arbitrary line. Why two phases? That is hardly anything in the context of the game. Why isn’t it the last break in play like they do with foul play? Two phases is likely to lead to legitimate infringements getting missed
or the ref being over cautious and blowing a play up when he otherwise could have let it go and checked back.because it's rugby, it's not supposed to be perfect. If you miss it in real time, tough shit. Call it, or don't call it. Stop being half pregnant.
Also there is so much subjective stuff in a game of rugby, that a try could be rubbed out for a difference of opinion.
Yeah sweet, no need for TMOs or touch judges then. Or the citing commissioner. If it doesn’t get dealt with then and there by the ref then get over it.
sure, go to that extreme, knock yourself out
(i could do without the TMO though, it adds nothing)
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two late thoughts after watching the highlights
Loved collins mind games at the end, running into the maul so the chiefs would think we were going for an all in drive....and the nuggie plays it...
and i honestly think sio almost forgot to put it down...
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two late thoughts after watching the highlights
Loved collins mind games at the end, running into the maul so the chiefs would think we were going for an all in drive....and the nuggie plays it...
and i honestly think sio almost forgot to put it down...
@Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
two late thoughts after watching the highlights
Loved collins mind games at the end, running into the maul so the chiefs would think we were going for an all in drive....and the nuggie plays it...
and i honestly think sio almost forgot to put it down...
who was the dipshit for us that completely unnecessarily went in on Smith leaving the world's biggest hole right on our lie? That's a read that will haunt you for ages
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@Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
two late thoughts after watching the highlights
Loved collins mind games at the end, running into the maul so the chiefs would think we were going for an all in drive....and the nuggie plays it...
and i honestly think sio almost forgot to put it down...
who was the dipshit for us that completely unnecessarily went in on Smith leaving the world's biggest hole right on our lie? That's a read that will haunt you for ages
@mariner4life i dont know, just as likely smith tries to go in himself, i woldn't beat up the guy too much
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@Toddy said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
Wasn't it ALB all at sea in the last play
i thought it was the 23? But i could be mistaken because i had walked away in disgust
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@Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
two late thoughts after watching the highlights
Loved collins mind games at the end, running into the maul so the chiefs would think we were going for an all in drive....and the nuggie plays it...
and i honestly think sio almost forgot to put it down...
who was the dipshit for us that completely unnecessarily went in on Smith leaving the world's biggest hole right on our lie? That's a read that will haunt you for ages
@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
two late thoughts after watching the highlights
Loved collins mind games at the end, running into the maul so the chiefs would think we were going for an all in drive....and the nuggie plays it...
and i honestly think sio almost forgot to put it down...
who was the dipshit for us that completely unnecessarily went in on Smith leaving the world's biggest hole right on our lie? That's a read that will haunt you for ages
I think the two outside him bunched and left the hole
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@mariner4life i dont know, just as likely smith tries to go in himself, i woldn't beat up the guy too much
@Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@mariner4life i dont know, just as likely smith tries to go in himself, i woldn't beat up the guy too much
smith was well covered, and got hit hard after the pass, it was completely unnecessary. The system totally broke down
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@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
two late thoughts after watching the highlights
Loved collins mind games at the end, running into the maul so the chiefs would think we were going for an all in drive....and the nuggie plays it...
and i honestly think sio almost forgot to put it down...
who was the dipshit for us that completely unnecessarily went in on Smith leaving the world's biggest hole right on our lie? That's a read that will haunt you for ages
I think the two outside him bunched and left the hole
@Crucial said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
two late thoughts after watching the highlights
Loved collins mind games at the end, running into the maul so the chiefs would think we were going for an all in drive....and the nuggie plays it...
and i honestly think sio almost forgot to put it down...
who was the dipshit for us that completely unnecessarily went in on Smith leaving the world's biggest hole right on our lie? That's a read that will haunt you for ages
I think the two outside him bunched and left the hole
now i want to see a replay because that wasn't my impression at all.
