Chiefs v Crusaders

[Bones]

@antipodean said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

The culture at the Crusaders must be superb. Average players content to work on their basic skills and do their core roles.

Chiefs have been very unlucky, but losses are a cancer. They're not well served by All Blacks playing like headless . Webber and DMac should be watching the North vs South on tv.

Yeah, it was pretty unpleasant watching DMac phone it in. Most notably...what the fuck were those kicks? I think he now needs to earn his spot back and show he's a team player.

[antipodean]

@sparky said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@ACT-Crusader said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Boshier is a quality player. Would like to see him get a chance in the Nth / Sth game.

So much strength in the Nth backrow. Some quality players will miss out.

Chances should go to players who make good decisions first and foremost.

[Chris]

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@No-Quarter said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones when have I steered you wrong?

In this thread!

@No-Quarter yeah I posted up the law. Refs ruling it like forward pass when it's different.

Sorry I missed that. Yup amateur hour.

Crusaders too good in the end, but that kind of decision is similar to what drives people crazy when it happens to their team against the ABs. You just can't afford really basic mistakes like that going against you if you want to have a chance, especially when it directly leads to a try.

Also brings into question the supposed intentional knock on by Stevenson. His hand was facing backwards...

No downwards fair call Yc

Any chance you can explain where to find the law about downwards?

palm facing the ground on contact In front of your
body is a knock down not back wards
If he had attempted to knock it upwards to retain
The ball fair enough but he didn’t
So he knocked it downwards so penalty
I suppose it cost the chiefs the game well
no it didn’t
So who cares

[sparky]

@antipodean said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@sparky said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@ACT-Crusader said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Boshier is a quality player. Would like to see him get a chance in the Nth / Sth game.

So much strength in the Nth backrow. Some quality players will miss out.

Chances should go to players who make good decisions first and foremost.

In the recent AB podcast, Ted hit the nail on the head when he said that the problem in the 2019 RWC Semi was that the ABs were not mentally as strong as England were in that game.

The real challenge for the AB selectors will be not just picking out the best athletes in the next few years but guys who can possess the sort of steel that McCaw, Kaino and Nonu always had for RWC knockout games.

[mariner4life]

The chiefs have no penetration in attack; their defensive structures are too easily pulled apart; and their set piece is appalling.

On top of that there isn't anyone they can go to at the moment who can blow a game apart.

[Chris]

@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

The chiefs have no penetration in attack; their defensive structures are too easily pulled apart; and their set piece is appalling.

On top of that there isn't anyone they can go to at the moment who can blow a game apart.

D Mac ? that’s his go too isn’t it , or is that flame burnt out

[mariner4life]

@Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

The chiefs have no penetration in attack; their defensive structures are too easily pulled apart; and their set piece is appalling.

On top of that there isn't anyone they can go to at the moment who can blow a game apart.

D Mac ? that’s his go too isn’t it , or is that flame burnt out

Not this year. Flashes of it. But mostly shit.

[Chris]

@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

The chiefs have no penetration in attack; their defensive structures are too easily pulled apart; and their set piece is appalling.

On top of that there isn't anyone they can go to at the moment who can blow a game apart.

D Mac ? that’s his go too isn’t it , or is that flame burnt out

Not this year. Flashes of it. But mostly shit.

Maybe too much pressure on him to do the game breaking
Moves with fuck all support

[Duluth]

[mariner4life]

@Duluth fucked if I'm watching that

[ACT Crusader]

@sparky said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@antipodean said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@sparky said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@ACT-Crusader said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Boshier is a quality player. Would like to see him get a chance in the Nth / Sth game.

So much strength in the Nth backrow. Some quality players will miss out.

Chances should go to players who make good decisions first and foremost.

In the recent AB podcast, Ted hit the nail on the head when he said that the problem in the 2019 RWC Semi was that the ABs were not mentally as strong as England were in that game.

The real challenge for the AB selectors will be not just picking out the best athletes in the next few years but guys who can possess the sort of steel that McCaw, Kaino and Nonu always had for RWC knockout games.

Ah yes because players like that just grow on trees. And 2019 RWC analysis is just so 2019...

[Machpants]

Excellent Maul for try 3

[sparky]

@ACT-Crusader said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@sparky said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@antipodean said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@sparky said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@ACT-Crusader said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Boshier is a quality player. Would like to see him get a chance in the Nth / Sth game.

So much strength in the Nth backrow. Some quality players will miss out.

Chances should go to players who make good decisions first and foremost.

In the recent AB podcast, Ted hit the nail on the head when he said that the problem in the 2019 RWC Semi was that the ABs were not mentally as strong as England were in that game.

The real challenge for the AB selectors will be not just picking out the best athletes in the next few years but guys who can possess the sort of steel that McCaw, Kaino and Nonu always had for RWC knockout games.

Ah yes because players like that just grow on trees. And 2019 RWC analysis is just so 2019...

Between 2004 and 2015, the ABs were ahead of the rest of the world on mental skills. Other teams gave caught up. Time to open up a gap again.

[sparky]

@Duluth said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

At 5:15 she tells Marshall to Shhhhh.

[booboo]

Will try and read through the thread ... ust finished watching the recording...

But totally ironical ( ) that a bullshit try should be awarded to the Sith immediately after the Chiefs escape a red card.

[canefan]

@sparky said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@antipodean said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@sparky said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@ACT-Crusader said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Boshier is a quality player. Would like to see him get a chance in the Nth / Sth game.

So much strength in the Nth backrow. Some quality players will miss out.

Chances should go to players who make good decisions first and foremost.

In the recent AB podcast, Ted hit the nail on the head when he said that the problem in the 2019 RWC Semi was that the ABs were not mentally as strong as England were in that game.

The real challenge for the AB selectors will be not just picking out the best athletes in the next few years but guys who can possess the sort of steel that McCaw, Kaino and Nonu always had for RWC knockout games.

That steel was forged in the fires of RWC and test match failure. We will see how this next group of players react to adversity.

BTW how did they give that Crusaders try in the 60th minute? That's a bad beat

[Bones]

@Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@No-Quarter said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones when have I steered you wrong?

In this thread!

@No-Quarter yeah I posted up the law. Refs ruling it like forward pass when it's different.

Sorry I missed that. Yup amateur hour.

Crusaders too good in the end, but that kind of decision is similar to what drives people crazy when it happens to their team against the ABs. You just can't afford really basic mistakes like that going against you if you want to have a chance, especially when it directly leads to a try.

Also brings into question the supposed intentional knock on by Stevenson. His hand was facing backwards...

No downwards fair call Yc

Any chance you can explain where to find the law about downwards?

palm facing the ground on contact In front of your
body is a knock down not back wards
If he had attempted to knock it upwards to retain
The ball fair enough but he didn’t
So he knocked it downwards so penalty
I suppose it cost the chiefs the game well
no it didn’t
So who cares

Ignoring that he attempted to catch and not knock it down - I see you unskilfully avoided answering the question. Show me the law where it's a penalty for knocking the ball down.

[kev]

@antipodean said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

The culture at the Crusaders must be superb. Average players content to work on their basic skills and do their core roles.

Chiefs have been very unlucky, but losses are a cancer. They're not well served by All Blacks playing like headless . Webber and DMac should be watching the North vs South on tv.

Just not sure they are average. Winners is a better description.

[Chris]

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@No-Quarter said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones when have I steered you wrong?

In this thread!

@No-Quarter yeah I posted up the law. Refs ruling it like forward pass when it's different.

Sorry I missed that. Yup amateur hour.

Crusaders too good in the end, but that kind of decision is similar to what drives people crazy when it happens to their team against the ABs. You just can't afford really basic mistakes like that going against you if you want to have a chance, especially when it directly leads to a try.

Also brings into question the supposed intentional knock on by Stevenson. His hand was facing backwards...

No downwards fair call Yc

Any chance you can explain where to find the law about downwards?

palm facing the ground on contact In front of your
body is a knock down not back wards
If he had attempted to knock it upwards to retain
The ball fair enough but he didn’t
So he knocked it downwards so penalty
I suppose it cost the chiefs the game well
no it didn’t
So who cares

Ignoring that he attempted to catch and not knock it down - I see you unskilfully avoided answering the question. Show me the law where it's a penalty for knocking the ball down.

Crusaders 32 Chiefs 19
5 tries to 1
Thanks for coming

[Siam]

Nothing can tell the story of the game more appropriately than 5 tries to 1.

Everything that the Chiefs have achieved in this cruel season has been due to pride and team spirit rather than "imported" coaching.