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Chiefs v Crusaders

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  • P pakman

    @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

    @pakman I wouldn't go that far and I think the chiefs were lucky to even be in the game, but it's worrying that kiwi refs have had some absolute clangers that don't at all fit with the laws... and even worse typically when on review! It's like they get confused and focus in on one small thing and disregard the bigger picture.

    Agree that Chiefs were on the ropes, but one point game and good clearance from scrum and game on!

    Felt Chch had the better of that otherwise, so can’t say the result was an injustice.

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    @pakman said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

    good clearance from scrum

    You were going so well

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      @pakman said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

      good clearance from scrum

      You were going so well

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      @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

      @pakman said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

      good clearance from scrum

      You were going so well

      Yes, it wasn’t the given one might expect at this level. Cruds and Weber seemed to be on different frequencies at times.

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        One point from my perspective.

        Mounga and Jordan the most dangerous players on the park, looking like top level players.

        While our starting all black wingers just look average.

        And for all our talk of midfield depth, the guys most likely to start the first test aren't showing much.

        Okay 2 points.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          One point from my perspective.

          Mounga and Jordan the most dangerous players on the park, looking like top level players.

          While our starting all black wingers just look average.

          And for all our talk of midfield depth, the guys most likely to start the first test aren't showing much.

          Okay 2 points.

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          @mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

          Jordan the most dangerous players on the park, looking like top level players.

          Such an enigma. Like others have said, he just looks like he's going for a brisk walk with little to no purpose and then beats a kazillion people or emerges from within 8 players having beaten them for a kick. He's the anti Ben Smith who made every jink or break look like he was trying to stop the earth turning.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            One point from my perspective.

            Mounga and Jordan the most dangerous players on the park, looking like top level players.

            While our starting all black wingers just look average.

            And for all our talk of midfield depth, the guys most likely to start the first test aren't showing much.

            Okay 2 points.

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            @mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

            One point from my perspective.

            Mounga and Jordan the most dangerous players on the park, looking like top level players.

            While our starting all black wingers just look average.

            And for all our talk of midfield depth, the guys most likely to start the first test aren't showing much.

            Okay 2 points.

            I would actually consider Jordan to play right wing

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            • BonesB Bones

              Holy fuck. @Frank just booboo'd, but what caused the booboo was a @booboo post. My head hurts.

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              @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

              Holy fuck. @Frank just booboo'd, but what caused the booboo was a @booboo post. My head hurts.

              I get in first occasionally

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                Good pace off the back of that scrum from Sowakula

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                @Duluth said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                Good pace off the back of that scrum from Sowakula

                He's been improving from that first round where everyone wanted him banished from the squad

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  Embarrassing defence there

                  Edit: not DMac, that was a good effort

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                  @Kirwan said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                  Embarrassing defence there

                  Edit: not DMac, that was a good effort

                  Poor bugger. Showed some guts. Just too small.

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                    thanks to whoever posted the laws before - I learned something today. Based on those laws, clear no try -- it's not the same as a throw forward.

                    Refereeing has been in the spotlight, and not in a good way. Our referees haven't been great for a while, and it's wider than that generally. We are making the game harder to ref, and giving the refs less support. Not sure what to do, but if I had to invest in one place, referee developmnet would be it!

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                    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                      @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                      Gah Weber you dick

                      Yep, not sure why Smithy is praising him.

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                      @Donsteppa said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                      @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                      Gah Weber you dick

                      Yep, not sure why Smithy is praising him.

                      Hawkes?

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                      • J junior

                        Someone should start a drinking game for every tine Marshall mentions how quick Bridge is

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                        @junior said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                        Someone should start a drinking game for every tine Marshall mentions how quick Bridge is

                        Expensive supplying the piss

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          Who is the female commentator? "Jordan, peeled back by Cane" 😳

                          DMac is playing like a fuckwit that doesn't trust his teammates. Shitty kicks to nowhere, ignoring massive overlaps to run backwards and have a skip. Gross.

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                          @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                          Who is the female commentator? "Jordan, peeled back by Cane" 😳

                          Rikki Swannell. Agree with the sentiment about that comment but I reckon she does a reasonable job. Much preferable to Laban.

                          Edit: forgot to mention she's done quite a bit of the 7s recently.

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                          • ToddyT Toddy

                            @mariner4life backwards out of the hands. That's what matters

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                            @Toddy said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                            @mariner4life backwards out of the hands. That's what matters

                            I see @Bones posted the law that refutes that

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                            • BonesB Bones
                              A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.
                              
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                              @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                              A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.
                              

                              Worth re qoting

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                thanks to whoever posted the laws before - I learned something today. Based on those laws, clear no try -- it's not the same as a throw forward.

                                Refereeing has been in the spotlight, and not in a good way. Our referees haven't been great for a while, and it's wider than that generally. We are making the game harder to ref, and giving the refs less support. Not sure what to do, but if I had to invest in one place, referee developmnet would be it!

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                                @nzzp yea kudos to whoever's that was, def wasnt @bones so that's all good.

                                Although I would add that it seems silly not to apply the same logic surrounding momentum and motion in this situation.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  Is there a reason why Tahuriorangi isn't playing?

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                  Is there a reason why Tahuriorangi isn't playing?

                                  Worth asking again.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @Bones when have I steered you wrong?

                                    In this thread!

                                    @No-Quarter yeah I posted up the law. Refs ruling it like forward pass when it's different.

                                    Sorry I missed that. Yup amateur hour.

                                    Crusaders too good in the end, but that kind of decision is similar to what drives people crazy when it happens to their team against the ABs. You just can't afford really basic mistakes like that going against you if you want to have a chance, especially when it directly leads to a try.

                                    Also brings into question the supposed intentional knock on by Stevenson. His hand was facing backwards...

                                    No downwards fair call Yc

                                    Any chance you can explain where to find the law about downwards?

                                    palm facing the ground on contact In front of your
                                    body is a knock down not back wards
                                    If he had attempted to knock it upwards to retain
                                    The ball fair enough but he didn’t
                                    So he knocked it downwards so penalty
                                    I suppose it cost the chiefs the game well
                                    no it didn’t
                                    So who cares

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                                    @Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    @Bones when have I steered you wrong?

                                    In this thread!

                                    @No-Quarter yeah I posted up the law. Refs ruling it like forward pass when it's different.

                                    Sorry I missed that. Yup amateur hour.

                                    Crusaders too good in the end, but that kind of decision is similar to what drives people crazy when it happens to their team against the ABs. You just can't afford really basic mistakes like that going against you if you want to have a chance, especially when it directly leads to a try.

                                    Also brings into question the supposed intentional knock on by Stevenson. His hand was facing backwards...

                                    No downwards fair call Yc

                                    Any chance you can explain where to find the law about downwards?

                                    palm facing the ground on contact In front of your
                                    body is a knock down not back wards
                                    If he had attempted to knock it upwards to retain
                                    The ball fair enough but he didn’t
                                    So he knocked it downwards so penalty
                                    I suppose it cost the chiefs the game well
                                    no it didn’t
                                    So who cares

                                    Downwards is legal. Forwards is not. (It was a deliberate knock forward- 100% legit YC.)

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      Excellent Maul for try 3

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                                      @Machpants said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                      Excellent Maul for try 3

                                      A thing of beauty

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                                      • SiamS Siam

                                        Nothing can tell the story of the game more appropriately than 5 tries to 1.

                                        Everything that the Chiefs have achieved in this cruel season has been due to pride and team spirit rather than "imported" coaching.

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                                        @Siam said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                        Nothing can tell the story of the game more appropriately than 5 tries to 1.

                                        Everything that the Chiefs have achieved in this cruel season has been due to pride and team spirit rather than "imported" coaching.

                                        Apart from the Welsh guy

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                          A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.
                                          

                                          Worth re qoting

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                                          @booboo said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                          @Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                          A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.
                                          

                                          Worth re qoting

                                          makes sense , applying the backwards out of the hands would be a can of worms in regards to knock ons

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