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Hurricanes v Crusaders

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  • M mikey07

    @chris oh ok and never mind that fact he looked to create chances...

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    @mikey07 said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

    @chris oh ok and never mind that fact he looked to create chances...

    Yeah Strange he was always dangerous, glad he is not playing from a Crusaders viewpoint

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @mikey07 said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

      @winger said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

      @tim said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

      16 ASAFO AUMUA
      17 TEVITA MAFILEO
      18 ALEX FIDOW
      20 VAEA FIFITA

      I guess 16,18 & 20 have all been injured

      And Mafileo covers loosehead

      Everyone knows my views on Blackwell. But regardless this looks the best side for some time. Unsure if Rayasi was available or not. But Goosen might be seen as a better defender. And Rakete-Stones might if available might be unhappy. And hopefully some of the other players (like Toala) get a run in the Aussie games

      Wheres Le'aupepe. Is he not considered good enough. Or injured again this year?

      Rayasi is available he was running around no problem in the videos on Instagram...knowing Holland probably thinks he’s tired and needs a rest 🙄

      quote from Holland
      "In the backs, Salesi Rayasi was dropped from the 23 for what Holland described as his work off the ball in Auckland"

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      African Monkey
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      @chris Far out haha he should leave. He's wasting his time at the Canes.

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      • A African Monkey

        @chris Far out haha he should leave. He's wasting his time at the Canes.

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        @african-monkey he probably will and I for one wouldn’t blame him, same for the likes of Toloa

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        • A African Monkey

          @chris Far out haha he should leave. He's wasting his time at the Canes.

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          Tim
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          @african-monkey The Chiefs or Highlanders should look to pick up him, Jacob Pierce, Jarred Adams, Ethan Roots, Tanielu Tele'a, and Teague McElroy.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @mikey07 said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

            @winger said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

            @tim said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

            16 ASAFO AUMUA
            17 TEVITA MAFILEO
            18 ALEX FIDOW
            20 VAEA FIFITA

            I guess 16,18 & 20 have all been injured

            And Mafileo covers loosehead

            Everyone knows my views on Blackwell. But regardless this looks the best side for some time. Unsure if Rayasi was available or not. But Goosen might be seen as a better defender. And Rakete-Stones might if available might be unhappy. And hopefully some of the other players (like Toala) get a run in the Aussie games

            Wheres Le'aupepe. Is he not considered good enough. Or injured again this year?

            Rayasi is available he was running around no problem in the videos on Instagram...knowing Holland probably thinks he’s tired and needs a rest 🙄

            quote from Holland
            "In the backs, Salesi Rayasi was dropped from the 23 for what Holland described as his work off the ball in Auckland"

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            foobaNZ
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            @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

            Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

            We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

            That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

            to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

            He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

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            • F foobaNZ

              @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

              Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

              We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

              That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

              to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

              He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

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              Chris
              wrote on last edited by Duluth
              #34

              @foobanz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

              @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

              Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

              We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

              That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

              to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

              He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

              Yeah totally agree. the Canes have always been hard to beat because of their X factor players as they are unpredictable. It seems now these coaches are dampening the X factor down for journeyman.

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              • F foobaNZ

                @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

                Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

                We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

                That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

                to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

                He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

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                Canes4life
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                @foobanz yeah to publicly criticize him is well out of order, especially for someone that isn't exactly doing a good job in his own role.

                Get your head out of your arse Jason Holland and start selecting the team on ability instead of players that you have a love affair with. The selections are beyond a joke, the guy has a piss poor winning record and if this was any other competition he would have been booted by now, let alone warrenting a contract extension.

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                  Holland commented about Rayasi's workrate off the ball earlier in the season so this isn't new. I do think it is a big work-on for him. I'd still select Rayasi over Savea though!

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @foobanz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                    @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

                    Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

                    We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

                    That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

                    to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

                    He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

                    Yeah totally agree. the Canes have always been hard to beat because of their X factor players as they are unpredictable. It seems now these coaches are dampening the X factor down for journeyman.

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                    Crucial
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                    @chris said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                    @foobanz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                    @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

                    Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

                    We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

                    That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

                    to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

                    He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

                    Yeah totally agree. the Canes have always been hard to beat because of their X factor players as they are unpredictable. It seems now these coaches are dampening the X factor down for journeyman.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @foobanz yeah to publicly criticize him is well out of order, especially for someone that isn't exactly doing a good job in his own role.

                      Get your head out of your arse Jason Holland and start selecting the team on ability instead of players that you have a love affair with. The selections are beyond a joke, the guy has a piss poor winning record and if this was any other competition he would have been booted by now, let alone warrenting a contract extension.

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                      Winger
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                      #38

                      @canes4life said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                      yeah to publicly criticize him is well out of order, especially for someone that isn't exactly doing a good job in his own role.

                      On the other hand at least hes telling the fans whats going on. I want more of this. I don't agree but we know Holland is a defence first, high work rate man. As does Rayasi so he can now plan accordingly

                      The main issue is his defence first approach isn't really working too well this year

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @chris said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                        @foobanz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                        @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

                        Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

                        We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

                        That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

                        to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

                        He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

                        Yeah totally agree. the Canes have always been hard to beat because of their X factor players as they are unpredictable. It seems now these coaches are dampening the X factor down for journeyman.

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                        @crucial said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                        @chris said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                        @foobanz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                        @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

                        Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

                        We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

                        That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

                        to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

                        He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

                        Yeah totally agree. the Canes have always been hard to beat because of their X factor players as they are unpredictable. It seems now these coaches are dampening the X factor down for journeyman.

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                        thats where it started with Mr Hammet and has carried on with these coaches.His influence must still be immense at the Canes

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @foobanz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                          @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

                          Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

                          We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

                          That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

                          to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

                          He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

                          Yeah totally agree. the Canes have always been hard to beat because of their X factor players as they are unpredictable. It seems now these coaches are dampening the X factor down for journeyman.

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                          @chris said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                          @foobanz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                          @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

                          Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

                          We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

                          That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

                          to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

                          He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

                          Yeah totally agree. the Canes have always been hard to beat because of their X factor players as they are unpredictable. It seems now these coaches are dampening the X factor down for journeyman.

                          'His work rate off the ball' ?!?!?

                          Has the coach watched Julian? He does nothing

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                            @chris said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                            @foobanz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                            @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

                            Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

                            We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

                            That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

                            to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

                            He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

                            Yeah totally agree. the Canes have always been hard to beat because of their X factor players as they are unpredictable. It seems now these coaches are dampening the X factor down for journeyman.

                            'His work rate off the ball' ?!?!?

                            Has the coach watched Julian? He does nothing

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                            @mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                            @chris said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                            @foobanz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                            @chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO

                            Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries

                            We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this

                            That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.

                            to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing

                            He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week

                            Yeah totally agree. the Canes have always been hard to beat because of their X factor players as they are unpredictable. It seems now these coaches are dampening the X factor down for journeyman.

                            'His work rate off the ball' ?!?!?

                            Has the coach watched Julian? He does nothing

                            Doesn’t look like it he’s blinded I think

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                              Surely Rayasi switches teams next year, it's criminal that he's not being played. Would fit right in at the Chiefs.

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                              • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                Surely Rayasi switches teams next year, it's criminal that he's not being played. Would fit right in at the Chiefs.

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                                @yeetyaah said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                                Surely Rayasi switches teams next year, it's criminal that he's not being played. Would fit right in at the Chiefs.

                                Would be a good fit

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                                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                  Surely Rayasi switches teams next year, it's criminal that he's not being played. Would fit right in at the Chiefs.

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                                  @yeetyaah The Chiefs like the Hurricanes discards

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                                  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                    Surely Rayasi switches teams next year, it's criminal that he's not being played. Would fit right in at the Chiefs.

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                                    @yeetyaah said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                                    Surely Rayasi switches teams next year, it's criminal that he's not being played. Would fit right in at the Chiefs.

                                    I’d take him at the Blues in a heartbeat. Quality player.

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                                      But no mention of the Crusaders benching the form winger in the comp?

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                                      • M mikey07

                                        @yeetyaah The Chiefs like the Hurricanes discards

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                                        Yeetyaah
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                                        @mikey07 by that do you mean the Hawkes Bay players who get overlooked for mediocre Wellington players?

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                                        • M mikey07

                                          @yeetyaah The Chiefs like the Hurricanes discards

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                                          @mikey07 said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:

                                          @yeetyaah The Chiefs like the Hurricanes discards

                                          Orbyn Leger says hi.

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