Hurricanes v Crusaders
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@stargazer would he have any better chance at those other franchises? If Laumape leaves he will be third in the pecking order at the Canes. I think Toala needs to lock a Magpies starting position down first before he demands a starting position at any other franchise.
@canes4life I think he'll already be happy - for now - if he makes the bench. Knowing the Canes, they'll find a way to leave him out of the 23, even if Laumape leaves.
He isn't just a good 12, he's also a good fullback. In club rugby he's playing at first five, so there are multiple options of using him.
Also, the Landers should just drop Tomkinson (who wants to play for Samoa, so should just bugger off to Moana Pasifika). I think Toala has more potential than Gregory, but I agree with your last sentence. He has the curse of Ili playing out of his skin for the Magpies (hence why he's starting for the Rebels each and every week, too). Not sure whether Ili is coming back this year ...
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@canes4life I think he'll already be happy - for now - if he makes the bench. Knowing the Canes, they'll find a way to leave him out of the 23, even if Laumape leaves.
He isn't just a good 12, he's also a good fullback. In club rugby he's playing at first five, so there are multiple options of using him.
Also, the Landers should just drop Tomkinson (who wants to play for Samoa, so should just bugger off to Moana Pasifika). I think Toala has more potential than Gregory, but I agree with your last sentence. He has the curse of Ili playing out of his skin for the Magpies (hence why he's starting for the Rebels each and every week, too). Not sure whether Ili is coming back this year ...
@stargazer to be fair from the limited minutes I’ve seen of Toala he looks like a genuine talent. I’m sure injuries will happen at some stage and he will get an opportunity some where, just hope he takes it with both hands, whether it’s at the Canes or another kiwi franchise.
It’s would suck if he decided to go elsewhere but maybe the Pasifika team could be an option for him.
Speaking of former Hastings boys players, what happened to Kini Nahalo?
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The below highlights of Ardie show exactly why he should be in the number 7 jersey for the All Blacks. Is it me or has he really improved the physical side of his game? The way he man handled Scott Barrett was something else.
Apart from maybe Jordie vs the Landers, that performance on Sunday by Ardie was the best showing by any Canes player for some time.
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@stargazer to be fair from the limited minutes I’ve seen of Toala he looks like a genuine talent. I’m sure injuries will happen at some stage and he will get an opportunity some where, just hope he takes it with both hands, whether it’s at the Canes or another kiwi franchise.
It’s would suck if he decided to go elsewhere but maybe the Pasifika team could be an option for him.
Speaking of former Hastings boys players, what happened to Kini Nahalo?
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The below highlights of Ardie show exactly why he should be in the number 7 jersey for the All Blacks. Is it me or has he really improved the physical side of his game? The way he man handled Scott Barrett was something else.
Apart from maybe Jordie vs the Landers, that performance on Sunday by Ardie was the best showing by any Canes player for some time.
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@canes4life did a lot of that with a duff knee
@machpants hope it isn’t the last we see of him this season.
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Laumape is like Lomu
Get him angry and boy you need to watch out
@mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
Laumape is like Lomu
Get him angry and boy you need to watch out
You don't really have to try hard
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@booboo the Stan feed didn't cut out - they just cut to a stadium camera in place of the ads. Once the 'ad' break was over they carried on the coverage.
@kiwimurph said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@booboo the Stan feed didn't cut out - they just cut to a stadium camera in place of the ads. Once the 'ad' break was over they carried on the coverage.
Wasn't watching live, but my feed cut back to menu about a minute after the Dg.
Edit: dg not dr
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@steven-harris said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
Be remiss not to mention Joe moody ,Nga mihinui ki a koe Joe..100 games nothing to be sneezed at
His Trademe jersey is past $10K now.
Jordie and Ardie had whales of games for the Hurricanes.
Through the middle 40 minutes, I thought the game had shades of that AB-England game, where the smaller Crusaders backs were struggling to contain the bigger Canes backs - and the Canes were making lots of ground playing direct.
Canes' lineout definitely cost them.
Once Ardie went off the Canes just had a few too many holes in the dyke and with the rookie halves it always seemed likely the Crusaders would finish over the top.
Scott Barrett made the right decision to kick off in extra time, I think. You don't want to risk the early penalty - or charge down, as it turned out.
Nice cool finish from David Havili.
@chris-b spot on with your summary, small moments come down to having the leaders making the right decisions.
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@canes4life I think he's in the Chiefs Dev squad, but still or again injured? @Bovidae can maybe confirm.
@stargazer said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@canes4life I think he's in the Chiefs Dev squad, but still or again injured? @Bovidae can maybe confirm.
Naholo must be training with the Chiefs as he was in a photo last week. You can check their SM pages if you want. He didn't play for Taranaki in the CCCC or for the Chiefs Dev team.
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@chris-b said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@arhs said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
Campbell was much better than Hall too. Thought Whitelock and Bridge both went well.
For some reason, Hall looked really laboured out there.
Bridge started really well. I noticed him less as the game went on. Will Jordan was the opposite - which makes me wonder if they play the same role a bit much and Big Leicester is a better fit if Jordan is at fullback?
Maybe the converse when Havili is at fullback.
Leicester at centre was a real handful for the Canes defence. He always seems to beat the first tackle (or at the very least stand them up).
@act-crusader said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@chris-b said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@arhs said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
Campbell was much better than Hall too. Thought Whitelock and Bridge both went well.
For some reason, Hall looked really laboured out there.
Bridge started really well. I noticed him less as the game went on. Will Jordan was the opposite - which makes me wonder if they play the same role a bit much and Big Leicester is a better fit if Jordan is at fullback?
Maybe the converse when Havili is at fullback.
Leicester at centre was a real handful for the Canes defence. He always seems to beat the first tackle (or at the very least stand them up).
Yeah. Liked him at 13
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@crazy-horse Douglas is a good NPC player and that’s it in my opinion.
We are missing Todd’s breakdown work and more importantly his link play. None of our current crop seem to support in attack.
@act-crusader said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@crazy-horse Douglas is a good NPC player and that’s it in my opinion.
We are missing Todd’s breakdown work and more importantly his link play. None of our current crop seem to support in attack.
Been good enough in previous years. Super I'd his ceiling if he's playing to capacity and those around him are too.
I terms of 6/8 at the Sader's he's being Grace (even given second season syndrome). Bkackadder and Sanders. At least.
Good player, but just there only.
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@crazy-horse Douglas is a good NPC player and that’s it in my opinion.
We are missing Todd’s breakdown work and more importantly his link play. None of our current crop seem to support in attack.
@act-crusader said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@crazy-horse Douglas is a good NPC player and that’s it in my opinion.
We are missing Todd’s breakdown work and more importantly his link play. None of our current crop seem to support in attack.
Thought Christie looked like he had some mongrel about him.
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@act-crusader said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@tim said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@act-crusader Sione Havili is a good tackler but is more of a 6.5 type of player.
I agree. He’s active in defence but we need a bit more attack from our loosies.
His problem is that he isn't a pilfering threat at the breakdown and he doesn't feature with ball in hand. Which to be honest you could say the same about all our backrow options
@cantab79 said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@act-crusader said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@tim said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@act-crusader Sione Havili is a good tackler but is more of a 6.5 type of player.
I agree. He’s active in defence but we need a bit more attack from our loosies.
His problem is that he isn't a pilfering threat at the breakdown and he doesn't feature with ball in hand. Which to be honest you could say the same about all our backrow options
Liked how Bkackadder had been carrying
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@act-crusader said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@crazy-horse Douglas is a good NPC player and that’s it in my opinion.
We are missing Todd’s breakdown work and more importantly his link play. None of our current crop seem to support in attack.
A few years back Dunshea had a storming game for an invitation XV vs the B&I Lions, yet he's barely featured in the loose forwards since as far as I can recall. They're shifting SBarrett to 6.
He's been excellent from the bench the last couple of games has Dunshea.
Sanders should be better for his run.
@chris-b said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@act-crusader said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@crazy-horse Douglas is a good NPC player and that’s it in my opinion.
We are missing Todd’s breakdown work and more importantly his link play. None of our current crop seem to support in attack.
A few years back Dunshea had a storming game for an invitation XV vs the B&I Lions, yet he's barely featured in the loose forwards since as far as I can recall. They're shifting SBarrett to 6.
He's been excellent from the bench the last couple of games has Dunshea.
Sanders should be better for his run.
Dunshea
Loose forwardsQue?
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@chris this is the Canes coaching mindset problem in a nutshell IMHO
Rayasi is dangerous, he's hard to defend. He can score tries, and create tries
We aren't go to win if we don't have players like this
That should overshadow any perceived work rate issue, which a good coach would be able to solve.
to be honest I haven't noticed this with Rayasi. Rayasi is not why we're losing and for Holland to mention this publicly is incredibly disappointing
He can't see problems which 99% of fans point out here and on Facebook each week
@foobanz Rayasi is on the outer as they didn't like that he made himself available for the 7s last year and Holland hates a showboat. And hes been offered an extension (not sure how long hes currently signed for) but hasn't re-signed which has seen him slip down the pecking order.
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@foobanz Rayasi is on the outer as they didn't like that he made himself available for the 7s last year and Holland hates a showboat. And hes been offered an extension (not sure how long hes currently signed for) but hasn't re-signed which has seen him slip down the pecking order.
@nogusta said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@foobanz Rayasi is on the outer as they didn't like that he made himself available for the 7s last year and Holland hates a showboat. And hes been offered an extension (not sure how long hes currently signed for) but hasn't re-signed which has seen him slip down the pecking order.
Rayasi's contract expires after this SR season.
The Hurricanes are the franchise with the most player contracts expiring this year; quite a lot more than other franchises (disclaimer: as far as contract duration has been made public).
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@foobanz Rayasi is on the outer as they didn't like that he made himself available for the 7s last year and Holland hates a showboat. And hes been offered an extension (not sure how long hes currently signed for) but hasn't re-signed which has seen him slip down the pecking order.
@nogusta said in Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@foobanz Rayasi is on the outer as they didn't like that he made himself available for the 7s last year and Holland hates a showboat. And hes been offered an extension (not sure how long hes currently signed for) but hasn't re-signed which has seen him slip down the pecking order.
Holland sounds like a retard if that is the attitude.
