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SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs

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  • sharkS shark

    Anyone mentioned the Dagg post-match interview with (I think, from memory) Richie, which might just be the least professional piece of sports broadcasting of all time?

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    @pakman said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

    @stag said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

    All the talk on the breakdown about MacKenzie and the clutch. When it really counted in the final Mounga had the clutch and MacKenzie melted under the pressure.

    Those three missed penalties were huge.

    Form Dagg it's not uncommon, unfortunately some former players like Dagg and Wheeler get to tied up in the result of their teams, and may just forget their jobs. Happens a bit with former players who are still mixing with the teams on social basis I think.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @canes4life said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

      @booboo Samisoni is fourth behind Taylor, Coles & Aumua

      You'd have thought, huh? Common wisdom would rank them that way. But I could envisage him higher up that ranking.

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      @booboo he’s been good but he’s not in front of Aumua. Aumua has been a beast despite his injury this year and nothing that Samisoni has done changes that order for me. Others may have different opinions.

      Coles is nearing the end of his international career though so he may get a look in then.

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        I'm still comfortable with both Taylor and Reece's yellow cards, however, I think both, particularly Reece's warrants further inspection from the citing commissioner...that said, if either, particularly Reece's had been a red, I'd have agreed with it too.

        I reckon if Reece hadn't of been done through the ridiculous captains referral, then he'd be cited for sure, and likely had some enforced leave.

        Maybe they need to put any yellow for dangerous play up in front of the commissioner?

        As for the captains referral, this is gone for the TT Comp isn't it?

        Given this is a rule that doesn't really work when you put it down through the levels, surely it shouldn't be part of the game at the top?

        Sure we want the officials to get it right, but jeez the only thing these referrals have added to the game is time and more frustration at the officials.

        I can understand the theory behind the referrals but the nature of our game ensures they won't work.

        I'm actually looking forward to the TT rugby!

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          I'm still comfortable with both Taylor and Reece's yellow cards, however, I think both, particularly Reece's warrants further inspection from the citing commissioner...that said, if either, particularly Reece's had been a red, I'd have agreed with it too.

          I reckon if Reece hadn't of been done through the ridiculous captains referral, then he'd be cited for sure, and likely had some enforced leave.

          Maybe they need to put any yellow for dangerous play up in front of the commissioner?

          As for the captains referral, this is gone for the TT Comp isn't it?

          Given this is a rule that doesn't really work when you put it down through the levels, surely it shouldn't be part of the game at the top?

          Sure we want the officials to get it right, but jeez the only thing these referrals have added to the game is time and more frustration at the officials.

          I can understand the theory behind the referrals but the nature of our game ensures they won't work.

          I'm actually looking forward to the TT rugby!

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          @taniwharugby I with you, I hope referrals are tossed out, and certainly hope we don't get the rubbish kicking to touch ones from Australia. Just play rugby!

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            Haven't seen the game so won't comment on it but I have read the thread. Some of you should be posting on the Conspiracies thread. You will be most welcome.

            @Yeetyaah, what did you think of the refs?

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              Haven't seen the game so won't comment on it but I have read the thread. Some of you should be posting on the Conspiracies thread. You will be most welcome.

              @Yeetyaah, what did you think of the refs?

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              @crazy-horse said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

              @Yeetyaah, what did you think of the refs?

              He's dead on top of a hill after "LMAO" too many times. Only so many asses that you can laugh off.

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              • boobooB booboo

                Various random thunks before reading the thread ...

                Enjoyable game, aside from the result

                Both yellows were yellows, although Ref had to tie himself in knots to not red Reece given TMO's advice, yellow was the right call.

                Damo missing those penalties didn't help much.

                Jordan is such a fluke artist. The ball just breaks for him (like Reece last year), that try just bounced horribly for DMac but perfectly for Jordan.

                Thought T-cube was good (apart from that last knock on). Would have liked to have seen more of him.

                Liked the Sith midfield.

                Liked the Chiefies' midfield.

                Like Jacobsen at 8.

                Is Samsoni Taukei'aho 3rd or 4th hooker in line? Or higher?

                Just the vibe I got from the game is I'm not as down about the All Blacks as I was. Played at pace with great skill.

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                @booboo said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                Just the vibe I got from the game is I'm not as down about the All Blacks as I was. Played at pace with great skill.

                Foster.

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                  @chris said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                  11th title nice

                  2nd title.

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                  @kiwimurph said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                  @chris said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                  11th title nice

                  12th title in total SRA and SR

                  and maybe the only team to ever win SRA

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                    Imagine the kerfuffle if Razor finally gets the job and the ABs don't conquer all and sundry in style.

                    No pressure Mr Robertson.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      I'm still comfortable with both Taylor and Reece's yellow cards, however, I think both, particularly Reece's warrants further inspection from the citing commissioner...that said, if either, particularly Reece's had been a red, I'd have agreed with it too.

                      I reckon if Reece hadn't of been done through the ridiculous captains referral, then he'd be cited for sure, and likely had some enforced leave.

                      Maybe they need to put any yellow for dangerous play up in front of the commissioner?

                      As for the captains referral, this is gone for the TT Comp isn't it?

                      Given this is a rule that doesn't really work when you put it down through the levels, surely it shouldn't be part of the game at the top?

                      Sure we want the officials to get it right, but jeez the only thing these referrals have added to the game is time and more frustration at the officials.

                      I can understand the theory behind the referrals but the nature of our game ensures they won't work.

                      I'm actually looking forward to the TT rugby!

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                      @taniwharugby I'm also looking forward to it! Might head along to the Brumbies game next week. It'll have been a couple of years since I've attended a SR game against international opposition

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                      • SnowyS Snowy

                        @booboo said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                        Just the vibe I got from the game is I'm not as down about the All Blacks as I was. Played at pace with great skill.

                        Foster.

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                        @snowy said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                        @booboo said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                        Just the vibe I got from the game is I'm not as down about the All Blacks as I was. Played at pace with great skill.

                        Foster.

                        Don't buy in to the hate.

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          Haven't seen the game so won't comment on it but I have read the thread. Some of you should be posting on the Conspiracies thread. You will be most welcome.

                          @Yeetyaah, what did you think of the refs?

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                          @crazy-horse I didn't think they were too bad. After sobering up I don't think the Chiefs played to win. However, if Will Jordan's tackle on Jonah Lowe was high infront of the tryline, that's a penalty try. If the contact is direct to the head, that's a red card. Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            I'm still comfortable with both Taylor and Reece's yellow cards, however, I think both, particularly Reece's warrants further inspection from the citing commissioner...that said, if either, particularly Reece's had been a red, I'd have agreed with it too.

                            I reckon if Reece hadn't of been done through the ridiculous captains referral, then he'd be cited for sure, and likely had some enforced leave.

                            Maybe they need to put any yellow for dangerous play up in front of the commissioner?

                            As for the captains referral, this is gone for the TT Comp isn't it?

                            Given this is a rule that doesn't really work when you put it down through the levels, surely it shouldn't be part of the game at the top?

                            Sure we want the officials to get it right, but jeez the only thing these referrals have added to the game is time and more frustration at the officials.

                            I can understand the theory behind the referrals but the nature of our game ensures they won't work.

                            I'm actually looking forward to the TT rugby!

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                            @taniwharugby said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                            I'm still comfortable with both Taylor and Reece's yellow cards, however, I think both, particularly Reece's warrants further inspection from the citing commissioner...that said, if either, particularly Reece's had been a red, I'd have agreed with it too.

                            Reece could have been a red given previous examples of similar tackles. It would have been unjust for Taylor to get a red in my opinion, it was a bouncing ball that Dmac jumped for and all Taylor knew was it was overthrown and he needed to make a tackle. Yellow was fair.

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                            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                              @crazy-horse I didn't think they were too bad. After sobering up I don't think the Chiefs played to win. However, if Will Jordan's tackle on Jonah Lowe was high infront of the tryline, that's a penalty try. If the contact is direct to the head, that's a red card. Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.

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                              @yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                              Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.

                              Its only a penalty if he deliberately bats it dead, he doesn't have to try and ground it.

                              IMO he tried to hook at it to get it bagk to him, much like that attempt to intercept that doesn't quite come off.

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                              • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                @crazy-horse I didn't think they were too bad. After sobering up I don't think the Chiefs played to win. However, if Will Jordan's tackle on Jonah Lowe was high infront of the tryline, that's a penalty try. If the contact is direct to the head, that's a red card. Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.

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                                @yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                                @crazy-horse I didn't think they were too bad. After sobering up I don't think the Chiefs played to win. However, if Will Jordan's tackle on Jonah Lowe was high infront of the tryline, that's a penalty try. If the contact is direct to the head, that's a red card. Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.

                                Yeah you totally should have won. Any team who can't or won't take advantage of a two man advantage really deserves to win.

                                Kind of reminds me of what I deem the Crusaders' nadir under Blackadder which was a miserable home game against the Sharks where they were down to 14 and 13 at one stage and we never even looked like winning.

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                                • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                  @taniwharugby said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                                  I'm still comfortable with both Taylor and Reece's yellow cards, however, I think both, particularly Reece's warrants further inspection from the citing commissioner...that said, if either, particularly Reece's had been a red, I'd have agreed with it too.

                                  Reece could have been a red given previous examples of similar tackles. It would have been unjust for Taylor to get a red in my opinion, it was a bouncing ball that Dmac jumped for and all Taylor knew was it was overthrown and he needed to make a tackle. Yellow was fair.

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                                  @kiwipie Dmac leapt to take another long throw later too.

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                                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                    Imagine the kerfuffle if Razor finally gets the job and the ABs don't conquer all and sundry in style.

                                    No pressure Mr Robertson.

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                                    @crazy-horse said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                                    Imagine the kerfuffle if Razor finally gets the job and the ABs don't conquer all and sundry in style.

                                    No pressure Mr Robertson.

                                    Well the bar is set pretty low after last year .And if Foster carries on to the WC AB's will be in a mess.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @kiwipie Dmac leapt to take another long throw later too.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                                      @kiwipie Dmac leapt to take another long throw later too.

                                      The 8% beer I had consumed by then has fogged my memory of that event so I'll take your word for it!

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                                        Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.

                                        Its only a penalty if he deliberately bats it dead, he doesn't have to try and ground it.

                                        IMO he tried to hook at it to get it bagk to him, much like that attempt to intercept that doesn't quite come off.

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                                        @taniwharugby said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                                        @yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                                        Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.

                                        Its only a penalty if he deliberately bats it dead, he doesn't have to try and ground it.

                                        IMO he tried to hook at it to get it bagk to him, much like that attempt to intercept that doesn't quite come off.

                                        In the end he missed it so how can you give a penalty for something that didn't happen.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                                          Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.

                                          Its only a penalty if he deliberately bats it dead, he doesn't have to try and ground it.

                                          IMO he tried to hook at it to get it bagk to him, much like that attempt to intercept that doesn't quite come off.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                                          @yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:

                                          Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.

                                          Its only a penalty if he deliberately bats it dead, he doesn't have to try and ground it.

                                          Exactly. Glad you agree Canterbury should have been given a penalty try when Auckland stole the Shield off us after Kirwan deliberately batted ball over the dead ball line at the end. We were robbed!

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