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SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs

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  • O Old Samurai Jack

    For the Blues, Sotutu and Robinson were really good. Sotutu seemed to rise to the challenge of facing the big Chiefs No. 8. Best game this year IMHO. Robinson just goes and goes at 100% and making some really dominant tackles.
    The lack of awareness of space and putting the person outside of you into space by the Blues backs was just criminal. Really like Riko on the wing but as a centre, his default position is to pull the ears back and go for the line. The new fullback completely ignored a free Clarke outside of him on a number of occasions as well. For the backs, the parts are there but the machine has a few things to work on.
    Clarke is soooo out of form! Even defensively he is running around like a headless chook. Is he looking to beat the man or just run into people? Why is he never in the right place?
    The Chiefs are really on their way up, aren't they?. The head coach is getting a good rap now (McMillian?). There seems to be a really good crop of very young looseheads coming through the ranks at Super level (and esp. at the Chiefs). Surely Foster needs to take a punt of one or two with the 2023 World Cup in mind. If Moody goes down just prior or loses form.....

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    @old-samurai-jack said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    Clarke is soooo out of form! Even defensively he is running around like a headless chook. Is he looking to beat the man or just run into people? Why is he never in the right place?

    Caleb Clarke massively out of form this season. Don't know what's going if its injury or a mental thing or poor coaching but his work rate is significantly below that expected of an AB starting wing.

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      The biggest takeaway for me is trying to get my head around the contribution of Tanielu Teleสปa..
      Leon MacDonald told us in an interview after Crusaders game that the loss of Teleโ€™a early in the game had disrupted the Blues attacking game plan ..

      After Saturday evening ,I saw nothing that even resembled any sort of creativeness from the backs with Teleโ€™a being a pivotal part of the Blues attack ..!
      Or maybe I am just missing something..๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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      @steven-harris Yeah Tele'a at this level is no more than a 20 minute impact player off the bench. He doesn't have the skill set to play in the midfield.

      For now, he's a winger who can fill in at centre, no more. He's certainly no 12.

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        @old-samurai-jack said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

        Clarke is soooo out of form! Even defensively he is running around like a headless chook. Is he looking to beat the man or just run into people? Why is he never in the right place?

        Caleb Clarke massively out of form this season. Don't know what's going if its injury or a mental thing or poor coaching but his work rate is significantly below that expected of an AB starting wing.

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        @sparky said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

        Caleb Clarke massively out of form this season. Don't know what's going if its injury or a mental thing or poor coaching but his work rate is significantly below that expected of an AB starting wing.

        Clarke has acknowledged this too.

        โ€œPersonally I feel like I havenโ€™t really got to my full potential, itโ€™s been a lot harder this year, trying to get into these games.
        
        โ€œI came into this year with a goal to be working off the ball and getting the ball a lot,โ€ he said.
        
        โ€œWhereas Iโ€™ve been working off the ball, but every time Iโ€™m running off my wing, I can hear everyone talking, like โ€˜Calebโ€™s comingโ€™.
        
        โ€œLast weekend I could hear Sam Whitelock say that every time I tried to sneak around the rucks.
        
        โ€œStuff like that is frustrating, but at the same time it is quite cool that Iโ€™m being so heavily marked. But itโ€™s been one of those years where Iโ€™ve wanted to do tackle busting runs and get over the gain line, but itโ€™s been tougher not getting the ball.โ€
        
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          @sparky said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

          Caleb Clarke massively out of form this season. Don't know what's going if its injury or a mental thing or poor coaching but his work rate is significantly below that expected of an AB starting wing.

          Clarke has acknowledged this too.

          โ€œPersonally I feel like I havenโ€™t really got to my full potential, itโ€™s been a lot harder this year, trying to get into these games.
          
          โ€œI came into this year with a goal to be working off the ball and getting the ball a lot,โ€ he said.
          
          โ€œWhereas Iโ€™ve been working off the ball, but every time Iโ€™m running off my wing, I can hear everyone talking, like โ€˜Calebโ€™s comingโ€™.
          
          โ€œLast weekend I could hear Sam Whitelock say that every time I tried to sneak around the rucks.
          
          โ€œStuff like that is frustrating, but at the same time it is quite cool that Iโ€™m being so heavily marked. But itโ€™s been one of those years where Iโ€™ve wanted to do tackle busting runs and get over the gain line, but itโ€™s been tougher not getting the ball.โ€
          
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          @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

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            @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

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            @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

            @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

            Yep. Use the extra attention to distribute / offload and find the space that is created elsewhere. Maybe that is why he keeps heading infield rather than trying to go outside? Trying to link up, rather than go over or through a couple of defenders.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

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              @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

              @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

              Like he did the week before against the Highlanders

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              • S Steven Harris

                The biggest takeaway for me is trying to get my head around the contribution of Tanielu Teleสปa..
                Leon MacDonald told us in an interview after Crusaders game that the loss of Teleโ€™a early in the game had disrupted the Blues attacking game plan ..

                After Saturday evening ,I saw nothing that even resembled any sort of creativeness from the backs with Teleโ€™a being a pivotal part of the Blues attack ..!
                Or maybe I am just missing something..๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                @steven-harris what a head scratcher...doesn't feature at all then all of a sudden is a pivotal part of the game plan against the champs...ol Rangi didn't do himself (or Telea) any favours! SMH....

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                  @steven-harris what a head scratcher...doesn't feature at all then all of a sudden is a pivotal part of the game plan against the champs...ol Rangi didn't do himself (or Telea) any favours! SMH....

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                  @nogusta said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                  @steven-harris what a head scratcher...doesn't feature at all then all of a sudden is a pivotal part of the game plan against the champs...ol Rangi didn't do himself (or Telea) any favours! SMH....

                  I think what gets said to the media is deflection in some ways - probably didn't help losing a starter, but I'd be very surprised if he wasn't playing a bit of a game with the journo's, trying to turn the heat up on others

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

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                    @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                    @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

                    Second year syndrome in his 4th Super season?

                    TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

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                      @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                      @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

                      Second year syndrome in his 4th Super season?

                      TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

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                      @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                      TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

                      did he even play much? I think he spent a lot of time with the 7s, and I just remember a yellow (or red) for taking out a south african player in the air.
                      but yeah, I think 2020 was his breakout year - now he's actually getting the attention

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                        @steven-harris Yeah Tele'a at this level is no more than a 20 minute impact player off the bench. He doesn't have the skill set to play in the midfield.

                        For now, he's a winger who can fill in at centre, no more. He's certainly no 12.

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                        @african-monkey said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                        @steven-harris Yeah Tele'a at this level is no more than a 20 minute impact player off the bench. He doesn't have the skill set to play in the midfield.

                        For now, he's a winger who can fill in at centre, no more. He's certainly no 12.

                        He's a lot like Moala. He doesn't quite look like a true midfielder or winger, but talented enough to be out there.

                        He looked handy on the wing back in 2019, but we have plenty of wingers now.

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                          TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

                          did he even play much? I think he spent a lot of time with the 7s, and I just remember a yellow (or red) for taking out a south african player in the air.
                          but yeah, I think 2020 was his breakout year - now he's actually getting the attention

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                          @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                          @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                          TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

                          did he even play much? I think he spent a lot of time with the 7s, and I just remember a yellow (or red) for taking out a south african player in the air.
                          but yeah, I think 2020 was his breakout year - now he's actually getting the attention

                          Played 5 games in 2018 and 8 in 2019. All starts.

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                            @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                            @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                            TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

                            did he even play much? I think he spent a lot of time with the 7s, and I just remember a yellow (or red) for taking out a south african player in the air.
                            but yeah, I think 2020 was his breakout year - now he's actually getting the attention

                            Played 5 games in 2018 and 8 in 2019. All starts.

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                            @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                            @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                            @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                            TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

                            did he even play much? I think he spent a lot of time with the 7s, and I just remember a yellow (or red) for taking out a south african player in the air.
                            but yeah, I think 2020 was his breakout year - now he's actually getting the attention

                            Played 5 games in 2018 and 8 in 2019. All starts.

                            huh, nice work. I googled and coudln't find much. What a raw talent back them...

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                              @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                              TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

                              did he even play much? I think he spent a lot of time with the 7s, and I just remember a yellow (or red) for taking out a south african player in the air.
                              but yeah, I think 2020 was his breakout year - now he's actually getting the attention

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                              @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                              @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                              TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

                              did he even play much? I think he spent a lot of time with the 7s, and I just remember a yellow (or red) for taking out a south african player in the air.
                              but yeah, I think 2020 was his breakout year - now he's actually getting the attention

                              I think that was Tanielu Tele'a in his rookie year when he played on the wing.

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                                @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

                                did he even play much? I think he spent a lot of time with the 7s, and I just remember a yellow (or red) for taking out a south african player in the air.
                                but yeah, I think 2020 was his breakout year - now he's actually getting the attention

                                I think that was Tanielu Tele'a in his rookie year when he played on the wing.

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                                @kiwimurph I don't remember him taking out a South African in the air in Super Rugby, but Tele'a got red-carded for a late, shoulder charge in the game against Wales during the World Rugby U20 Championship (JWC) in 2018. Got a 3-game suspension for that.

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                                  @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                  @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                  TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

                                  did he even play much? I think he spent a lot of time with the 7s, and I just remember a yellow (or red) for taking out a south african player in the air.
                                  but yeah, I think 2020 was his breakout year - now he's actually getting the attention

                                  I think that was Tanielu Tele'a in his rookie year when he played on the wing.

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                                  @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                  @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                  @dice said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                  TBF, his first two seasons weren't too memorable and he was basically a teenager back then.

                                  did he even play much? I think he spent a lot of time with the 7s, and I just remember a yellow (or red) for taking out a south african player in the air.
                                  but yeah, I think 2020 was his breakout year - now he's actually getting the attention

                                  I think that was Tanielu Tele'a in his rookie year when he played on the wing.

                                  far out I'm getting old. Telea it was indeed

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                                    @african-monkey said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                    @steven-harris Yeah Tele'a at this level is no more than a 20 minute impact player off the bench. He doesn't have the skill set to play in the midfield.

                                    For now, he's a winger who can fill in at centre, no more. He's certainly no 12.

                                    He's a lot like Moala. He doesn't quite look like a true midfielder or winger, but talented enough to be out there.

                                    He looked handy on the wing back in 2019, but we have plenty of wingers now.

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                                    @dice Yup have to agree there.

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                                      And yes, Tele'a got a red card for taking the Stormers winger out in the air in 2019.

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                                        @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                        @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

                                        Yep. Use the extra attention to distribute / offload and find the space that is created elsewhere. Maybe that is why he keeps heading infield rather than trying to go outside? Trying to link up, rather than go over or through a couple of defenders.

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                                        @snowy said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                        @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                        @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

                                        Yep. Use the extra attention to distribute / offload and find the space that is created elsewhere. Maybe that is why he keeps heading infield rather than trying to go outside? Trying to link up, rather than go over or through a couple of defenders.

                                        yeah but it helps if you have the ball..

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                                          @snowy said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                          @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                          @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          Yep. Use the extra attention to distribute / offload and find the space that is created elsewhere. Maybe that is why he keeps heading infield rather than trying to go outside? Trying to link up, rather than go over or through a couple of defenders.

                                          yeah but it helps if you have the ball..

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                                          @nostrildamus said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                          @snowy said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                          @nzzp said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                          @bovidae second year syndrome - suddenly you get marked, and you lift your game ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          Yep. Use the extra attention to distribute / offload and find the space that is created elsewhere. Maybe that is why he keeps heading infield rather than trying to go outside? Trying to link up, rather than go over or through a couple of defenders.

                                          yeah but it helps if you have the ball..

                                          True. Limited opportunities, but making the most of them is also key. The Blues aren't great at converting breaks into points.

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