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Blues v Waratahs

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @kirwan said in Blues v Waratahs:

    Talking versatility (tongue in cheek here) , but Akira did end up at seven last week…

    He also moved to 7 twice in the early rounds, when he was getting his Fern MoTM points.

    Two things I've noticed - last night Akira probably took about 10 minutes to get into the game. Maybe someone needs to tackle him a couple of times in the changing sheds.

    And the typical perception of Akira in comparison with other players, Sotutu has had a much poorer season overall, but once he played a couple of good games in a row and everyone went mad for him again. Akira has a couple of quiet games and all of a sudden he's a dunce.

    @kirwan said in Blues v Waratahs:

    @bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

    @old-samurai-jack said in Blues v Waratahs:

    @bones Hate to call it. The abundance of talent defies belief at the moment.

    It's all pretty fresh, untested talent in the greater scheme of things but hey the boks don't even know what test rugby is.

    Edit: and it's pretty exciting.

    Robinson also could be the lock/blindside cover that they were looking for years.

    I wish that Rangi would actually move him to lock in games, or start him, so we can see if he is that guy.

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    @nepia who's saying Akira is a dunce? I haven't seen that on any threads so far this morning.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @african-monkey said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @bones Hmmm interesting regarding Akira. I thought he carried strongly (mainly early on) and did plenty on defence.

      Someone who I do find sad to watch these days is Blake Gibson. He missed plenty of tackles out there. Sadly I think injuries have finally caught up with him.

      He was working hard in the 81st minute and had what 17 tackles? Hardly looking unfit.

      Starting to make his open field breaks again too, which had gone as he tightened his game up.

      Talking versatility (tongue in cheek here) , but Akira did end up at seven last week…

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      @kirwan said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @african-monkey said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @bones Hmmm interesting regarding Akira. I thought he carried strongly (mainly early on) and did plenty on defence.

      Someone who I do find sad to watch these days is Blake Gibson. He missed plenty of tackles out there. Sadly I think injuries have finally caught up with him.

      He was working hard in the 81st minute and had what 17 tackles? Hardly looking unfit.

      Starting to make his open field breaks again too, which had gone as he tightened his game up.

      Talking versatility (tongue in cheek here) , but Akira did end up at seven last week…

      FFS Mrs Ioane. You just saw I posted about Ioane and assumed I was having a go didn't you? If you read properly, you'd see it's a fitness concern regarding injury, not workrate. As I said, he got stopped/dropped a few times last night (even went backwards a couple of times) where you would usually expect him to shake off a tackle or two, or drive forward. So just wondering if he has/had an issue he's recovering from (I'm gonna guess at groin/hip) as his power in contact seems to fail him sometimes.

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      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

        Now thats a good lift -
        dadf6eb0-93af-493f-94aa-7b98de7dac2b-image.png

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        @daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:

        Now thats a good lift -
        dadf6eb0-93af-493f-94aa-7b98de7dac2b-image.png

        Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
        It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.

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        • KruseK Kruse

          @daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:

          Now thats a good lift -
          dadf6eb0-93af-493f-94aa-7b98de7dac2b-image.png

          Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
          It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.

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          @kruse didnt the Saffas lift when in isolation and then when they re-entered the rugby world it was an innovation they adopted?

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @kruse didnt the Saffas lift when in isolation and then when they re-entered the rugby world it was an innovation they adopted?

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            @taniwharugby Yes. Let's face it the lineouts used to be a free-for-all.

            I remember the SA provincial teams using lifting in the lineouts on the 1992 SA tour before the test between the Boks and the ABs. It was like the teams were often playing different games.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @taniwharugby Yes. Let's face it the lineouts used to be a free-for-all.

              I remember the SA provincial teams using lifting in the lineouts on the 1992 SA tour before the test between the Boks and the ABs. It was like the teams were often playing different games.

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              @bovidae i reckon even watching U13 rugby with no lifting then u14 with lifting it looks much more organised.

              I guess the one thing that would happen without lifting would bring back the spring heeled 90kg lock...

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                Bell and Gordon the standouts for the Tahs. After an initial good showing, Donaldson has faded under greater scrutiny from NZ teams.

                Charlie Gamble had a great game too I thought - several excellent turnovers and some good tackling.

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                  I reckon that of all the modern changes to the game,lineout lifting has improved the game immensely.The scrum the complete opposite.

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                    Remember the wingers throwing a dead duck into a complete shambles.Pushing,jumping across and even falling out on purpose!!They were crap.

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                    • KruseK Kruse

                      @daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:

                      Now thats a good lift -
                      dadf6eb0-93af-493f-94aa-7b98de7dac2b-image.png

                      Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
                      It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.

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                      @kruse said in Blues v Waratahs:

                      @daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:

                      Now thats a good lift -
                      dadf6eb0-93af-493f-94aa-7b98de7dac2b-image.png

                      Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
                      It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.

                      To help speed up the game - one less thing to penalise.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @bovidae i reckon even watching U13 rugby with no lifting then u14 with lifting it looks much more organised.

                        I guess the one thing that would happen without lifting would bring back the spring heeled 90kg lock...

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                        @taniwharugby said in Blues v Waratahs:

                        I guess the one thing that would happen without lifting would bring back the spring heeled 90kg lock...

                        My AB hopes reignited.

                        Lifting will probably be removed eventually. Workplace health and safety issues.

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                        • SnowyS Snowy

                          @taniwharugby said in Blues v Waratahs:

                          I guess the one thing that would happen without lifting would bring back the spring heeled 90kg lock...

                          My AB hopes reignited.

                          Lifting will probably be removed eventually. Workplace health and safety issues.

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                          @snowy said in Blues v Waratahs:

                          Lifting will probably be removed eventually. Workplace health and safety issues.

                          similarly tackling, scrummaging, well, all contact, even touch can get dangerous with eye pokes, broken fingers!

                          Not sure we can even spectate 2 people playing it on video games, RSI!

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                          • KruseK Kruse

                            @daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:

                            Now thats a good lift -
                            dadf6eb0-93af-493f-94aa-7b98de7dac2b-image.png

                            Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
                            It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.

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                            @kruse said in Blues v Waratahs:

                            @daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:

                            Now thats a good lift -
                            dadf6eb0-93af-493f-94aa-7b98de7dac2b-image.png

                            Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
                            It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.

                            You're just looking back with rose tinted glasses. Lineouts used to be an absolute shit fest. Scrappy forwards elbowing at each other to win rubbish ball for the halfback to deal with or get smashed by the opposing players.

                            Lifting in lineouts is the best change they ever made.

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                            • DamoD Damo

                              @kruse said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              @daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              Now thats a good lift -
                              dadf6eb0-93af-493f-94aa-7b98de7dac2b-image.png

                              Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
                              It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.

                              You're just looking back with rose tinted glasses. Lineouts used to be an absolute shit fest. Scrappy forwards elbowing at each other to win rubbish ball for the halfback to deal with or get smashed by the opposing players.

                              Lifting in lineouts is the best change they ever made.

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                              @damo said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              @kruse said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              @daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              Now thats a good lift -
                              dadf6eb0-93af-493f-94aa-7b98de7dac2b-image.png

                              Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
                              It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.

                              You're just looking back with rose tinted glasses. Lineouts used to be an absolute shit fest. Scrappy forwards elbowing at each other to win rubbish ball for the halfback to deal with or get smashed by the opposing players.

                              Lifting in lineouts is the best change they ever made.

                              Fair 'nuff
                              Like I said - honest question... I think a few people have said similar things - I'll bow to the masses.
                              Could the same effect have been achieved done other ways? Probably.
                              Doesn't matter... we are where we are, and it is better than before. Like so many things, I sometimes wonder if it could have been fixed by just proper application of the laws at the time.

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