Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

Wales v Argentina

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
walesargentina
72 Posts 15 Posters 2.0k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • gt12G gt12

    @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

    @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

    I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

    Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

    ChrisC Offline
    ChrisC Offline
    Chris
    wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

    @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

    @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

    I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

    Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

    Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

    gt12G 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • gt12G gt12

      @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

      @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

      I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

      Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

      StargazerS Offline
      StargazerS Offline
      Stargazer
      wrote on last edited by
      #22

      @gt12 I think if both incidents (in the ABs game and the one we just saw) were officiated the same way, consistently with the framework, both should probably have been yellow.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • StargazerS Offline
        StargazerS Offline
        Stargazer
        wrote on last edited by
        #23

        Good try to the Argies!

        1 Reply Last reply
        1
        • ChrisC Offline
          ChrisC Offline
          Chris
          wrote on last edited by
          #24

          Matera

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • ChrisC Chris

            @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

            @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

            @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

            I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

            Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

            Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

            gt12G Offline
            gt12G Offline
            gt12
            wrote on last edited by
            #25

            @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

            @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

            @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

            @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

            I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

            Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

            Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

            I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

            ChrisC O 2 Replies Last reply
            0
            • O Offline
              O Offline
              Old Samurai Jack
              wrote on last edited by
              #26

              That ref ....... an accidental head on head is a red?... you'd think he was protecting NH rugby. Idiot!

              1 Reply Last reply
              2
              • gt12G gt12

                @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                ChrisC Offline
                ChrisC Offline
                Chris
                wrote on last edited by
                #27

                @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                gt12G 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • gt12G gt12

                  @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                  @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                  @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                  @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                  I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                  Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                  Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                  I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                  O Offline
                  O Offline
                  Old Samurai Jack
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #28

                  @gt12 You married her without proper screening?

                  ChrisC gt12G 2 Replies Last reply
                  3
                  • O Old Samurai Jack

                    @gt12 You married her without proper screening?

                    ChrisC Offline
                    ChrisC Offline
                    Chris
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #29

                    @old-samurai-jack said in Wales v Argentina:

                    @gt12 You married her without proper screening?

                    Hahaha

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                      @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                      @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                      @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                      @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                      I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                      Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                      Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                      I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                      I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                      At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                      Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                      gt12G Offline
                      gt12G Offline
                      gt12
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #30

                      @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                      @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                      @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                      @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                      @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                      @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                      I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                      Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                      Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                      I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                      I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                      At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                      Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                      I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                      ChrisC Victor MeldrewV 2 Replies Last reply
                      1
                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                        I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                        NTAN Offline
                        NTAN Offline
                        NTA
                        wrote on last edited by NTA
                        #31

                        @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                        assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                        Except for tip tackles apparently.

                        This ref is shit. Treating every breakdown like big English forwards are flopping all over it.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • O Old Samurai Jack

                          @gt12 You married her without proper screening?

                          gt12G Offline
                          gt12G Offline
                          gt12
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #32

                          @old-samurai-jack said in Wales v Argentina:

                          @gt12 You married her without proper screening?

                          Given that you are in Japan, I think you know how much of a crapshoot things are with what is said and done before marriage and kids.

                          O 1 Reply Last reply
                          1
                          • gt12G gt12

                            @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                            I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                            Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                            Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                            I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                            I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                            At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                            Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                            I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                            ChrisC Offline
                            ChrisC Offline
                            Chris
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #33

                            @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                            @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                            I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                            Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                            Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                            I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                            I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                            At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                            Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                            I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                            She has a good point.
                            But keep the red card replacement rule at least it will not ruin the games as spectacles.
                            Then give them a appropriate ban after the game.

                            gt12G 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                              I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                              Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                              Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                              I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                              I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                              At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                              Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                              I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                              She has a good point.
                              But keep the red card replacement rule at least it will not ruin the games as spectacles.
                              Then give them a appropriate ban after the game.

                              gt12G Offline
                              gt12G Offline
                              gt12
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #34

                              @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                              @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                              I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                              Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                              Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                              I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                              I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                              At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                              Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                              I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                              She has a good point.
                              But keep the red card replacement rule at least it will not ruin the games as spectacles.
                              Then give them a appropriate ban after the game.

                              I absolutely think we should have that rule but that’s different to the current discussion - we’ll struggle to get kids playing if parents think that the sport itself is a danger to their long term health.

                              To illustrate, I have a few USA friends who won’t let their kids play football as they know the potential danger. They’ll watch it and cheer etc, but not let their kids play it. At some point, that’s not sustainable.

                              ChrisC 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • gt12G gt12

                                @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                                I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                                Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                                Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                                I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                                I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                                At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                                Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                                I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                                Victor MeldrewV Offline
                                Victor MeldrewV Offline
                                Victor Meldrew
                                wrote on last edited by Victor Meldrew
                                #35

                                @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                                @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                                I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                                Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                                Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                                I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                                I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                                At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                                Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                                I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                                You just wished it was Foster and not DMac who got hammered by Botia....

                                ChrisC 1 Reply Last reply
                                1
                                • gt12G gt12

                                  @old-samurai-jack said in Wales v Argentina:

                                  @gt12 You married her without proper screening?

                                  Given that you are in Japan, I think you know how much of a crapshoot things are with what is said and done before marriage and kids.

                                  O Offline
                                  O Offline
                                  Old Samurai Jack
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @gt12 Ha! Nobody else will understand that as deeply.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  1
                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                                    I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                                    Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                                    Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                                    I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                                    I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                                    At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                                    Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                                    I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                                    She has a good point.
                                    But keep the red card replacement rule at least it will not ruin the games as spectacles.
                                    Then give them a appropriate ban after the game.

                                    I absolutely think we should have that rule but that’s different to the current discussion - we’ll struggle to get kids playing if parents think that the sport itself is a danger to their long term health.

                                    To illustrate, I have a few USA friends who won’t let their kids play football as they know the potential danger. They’ll watch it and cheer etc, but not let their kids play it. At some point, that’s not sustainable.

                                    ChrisC Offline
                                    ChrisC Offline
                                    Chris
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #37

                                    @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                                    @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                                    I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                                    Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                                    Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                                    I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                                    I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                                    At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                                    Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                                    I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                                    She has a good point.
                                    But keep the red card replacement rule at least it will not ruin the games as spectacles.
                                    Then give them a appropriate ban after the game.

                                    I absolutely think we should have that rule but that’s different to the current discussion - we’ll struggle to get kids playing if parents think that the sport itself is a danger to their long term health.

                                    To illustrate, I have a few USA friends who won’t let their kids play football as they know the potential danger. They’ll watch it and cheer etc, but not let their kids play it. At some point, that’s not sustainable.

                                    I don’t disagree at all.
                                    Just would like to see a better way of dealing with it,
                                    And clear decision making it’s a mess right now.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                                      I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                                      Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                                      Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                                      I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                                      I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                                      At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                                      Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                                      I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                                      You just wished it was Foster and not DMac who got hammered by Botia....

                                      ChrisC Offline
                                      ChrisC Offline
                                      Chris
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #38

                                      @victor-meldrew said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @chris said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @gt12 said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @stargazer said in Wales v Argentina:

                                      @chris Yep, and this is the way things are officiated in the NH. SH teams going to be in big trouble when they play there and get NH refs.

                                      I assume this is because Unions are so scared of law suits from ex-players? Ruin the game with over-the-top officiating, because of possible lawsuits later?

                                      Its like a different game. How on earth was there no card in today’s AB Game?

                                      Yeah it’s like Rugby and the other you can’t be too rough rugby.

                                      I don’t disagree but my wife could well be one of those women who won’t let their kids play rugby if there is the situation where unions don’t act about headshots.

                                      I understand that but let’s have some common sense
                                      At let’s keep the red card replacement rule we trialed in super Rugby.
                                      Then we are back to 15 men after 20 min.

                                      I agree, but today when my wife saw Dmac get hammered and nothing happened she literally said ‘do people not care if you get hit in the head’?

                                      You just wished it was Foster and not DMac who got hammered by Botia....

                                      Me too

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • StargazerS Offline
                                        StargazerS Offline
                                        Stargazer
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #39

                                        Another great to the Pumas. Chocobares.

                                        20 - 6 to the Pumas

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        1
                                        • O Offline
                                          O Offline
                                          Old Samurai Jack
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #40

                                          Bugger me. Can the Argies do this?

                                          ChrisC 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search