Wallabies v France 3

Bones

@barbarian said in Wallabies v France 3:

I don't think anyone here believes it was because of play-acting.

When you say "here" do you mean the fern or Oz? Cos I've spoken to quite a few mates who think the Frenchie should receive punishment and MK was fine.

Derpus

@bones Simulation should be against the rules. It is even in Football (scarcely enforced).

Bones

@derpus said in Wallabies v France 3:

@bones Simulation should be against the rules. It is even in Football (scarcely enforced).

It is in rugby too I thought (unsportsmanlike conduct).

Edit: but that wasn't something I was debating.

antipodean

Regardless, every coach should be pointing out to their teams that attempting tackles like that you're playing russian roulette with the ref.

Bovidae

@barbarian said in Wallabies v France 3:

This is a great point, but it highlights the error I think BOK and his team made: with each angle showing something slightly different (especially in regards to first point of contact), why did they not acknowledge the presence of doubt and opt for a YC?

If it was a red card and reduced to yellow because of mitigating factors I think the majority of people would have accepted that decision and moved on. IIRC it was Fraser who first said that there was direct contact to the head so O'Keeffe might have been swayed by that comment. Certainly some of those camera angles supported that.

barbarian

@bones People hate what the Frenchie did here (Oz), but I haven't spoken to anyone that thinks the RC was issued because of the play acting.

Bones

@barbarian said in Wallabies v France 3:

@bones People hate what the Frenchie did here (Oz), but I haven't spoken to anyone that thinks the RC was issued because of the play acting.

Interesting, the people I've spoken it feels like they think it influenced the decision.

MiketheSnow

@antipodean said in Wallabies v France 3:

Regardless, every coach should be pointing out to their teams that attempting tackles like that you're playing russian roulette with the ref.

This to the nth degree

GibbonRib

@bones said in Wallabies v France 3:

@barbarian said in Wallabies v France 3:

@bones People hate what the Frenchie did here (Oz), but I haven't spoken to anyone that thinks the RC was issued because of the play acting.

Interesting, the people I've spoken it feels like they think it influenced the decision.

From what I've seen on social media, this is a common view

Machpants

I don't think it influenced the decision, but if he didn't go down like a right cocksucking soccer piston wristed gibbon there would have been no decision to be made. The game would have carried on

Bones

@machpants said in Wallabies v France 3:

I don't think it influenced the decision, but if he didn't go down like a right cocksucking soccer piston wristed gibbon there would have been no decision to be made. The game would have carried on

Not so sure on that. I'd say that's heavily influencing the decision!

Derpus

@antipodean and to take a dive when its on.

ACT Crusader

@machpants your post contradicts itself!

I think it was said earlier in the thread but as soon as MK made the tackle I immediately thought of the Ofa one. So I thought it was going to be a fairly straightforward RC or there would be lots of replays looking for other factors to downgrade to a YC.

French player reaction didn’t matter.

Crucial

@bones said in Wallabies v France 3:

@barbarian said in Wallabies v France 3:

@bones People hate what the Frenchie did here (Oz), but I haven't spoken to anyone that thinks the RC was issued because of the play acting.

Interesting, the people I've spoken it feels like they think it influenced the decision.

I think it more influenced the decision to look at it (which I guess is the pre-cursor to the decision)
We all saw a very similar shot on DMac in that Fiji game that went unchallenged because DMac is Mataura tough. Pretty sure that if he had stayed down or grabbed at his head the protocols would have been followed and a card dished out.