Springboks v British & Irish Lions III
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@gibbonrib said in Springboks v BIL III:
@mikethesnow said in Springboks v BIL III:
Agree with the above
We need speed and guile
If fit,
Jones LCD Furlong
AWJ Beard
Beirne Faletau WatsonPrice Biggar
Henshaw Harris
Adams Williams LRZMako George Sinckler
Itoje
Curry SimmondsDavies Smith
No Navidi?
Instead of whom?
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@mikethesnow said in Springboks v BIL III:
Agree with the above
We need speed and guile
If fit,
Jones LCD Furlong
AWJ Beard
Beirne Faletau WatsonPrice Biggar
Henshaw Harris
Adams Williams LRZMako George Sinckler
Itoje
Curry SimmondsDavies Smith
I’m not a forward so no comment there. But backs price, Farrell, adams, aki, henshaw, lrz, williams
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@billy-tell said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@mikethesnow said in Springboks v BIL III:
Agree with the above
We need speed and guile
If fit,
Jones LCD Furlong
AWJ Beard
Beirne Faletau WatsonPrice Biggar
Henshaw Harris
Adams Williams LRZMako George Sinckler
Itoje
Curry SimmondsDavies Smith
I’m not a forward so no comment there. But backs price, Farrell, adams, aki, henshaw, lrz, williams
I've changed my mind about the centres to your suggestion
Aki, Henshaw
But Farrell should be in the stands sitting in the middle of Murray and Daly
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A statement from World Rugby read: "British and Irish Lions player Kyle Sinckler will attend an independent disciplinary hearing after he was cited by Scott Nowland (Australia) for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.12 (biting) in the second test against South Africa in Cape Town on 31 July, 2021
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@bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
From what I'm seeing on social media, the lions loss was completely engineered by Rassie, so probably no point turning up for the 3rd test.
Way too many useless Scotsmen too but I could have told them that.
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@oompb said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
A statement from World Rugby read: "British and Irish Lions player Kyle Sinckler will attend an independent disciplinary hearing after he was cited by Scott Nowland (Australia) for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.12 (biting) in the second test against South Africa in Cape Town on 31 July, 2021
Dirty underhand shit from Sinckler? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!
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@machpants said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@oompb said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
A statement from World Rugby read: "British and Irish Lions player Kyle Sinckler will attend an independent disciplinary hearing after he was cited by Scott Nowland (Australia) for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.12 (biting) in the second test against South Africa in Cape Town on 31 July, 2021
Dirty underhand shit from Sinckler? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!
Biting? Really? Gross.
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Springboks receive Duane Vermeulen boost
The Springboks have received a boost with the news that Duane Vermeulen will join their squad ahead of Saturday's third Test against the Lions.
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We got lucky in I
We got stuffed in II, and let's not forget that SA's best player - PSDT - had no impact on the match
If Gatland approaches III with just needing to tighten up the existing game plan we may well narrow the margin but the result will be the same, and the series will be lost
We have the personnel & ability to play like France - grit and guile - which I think is the answer, but does Warren have the appetite to go away from his bread & butter?
As we saw with his stint at the Chiefs, I'm not optimistic
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@mikethesnow agree with all this. I desperately want to see the Lions try something different. Not radically different, I don't want to see Finn Russell steering us to a 40 point hiding, just get Biggar to reduce the amount he kicks down to, say, 95%
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@mikethesnow it's funny how a narrative develops over the course of a tour.
I feel the Lions completely lost their bottle after Sharks II and the SA A game after they conceded four tries from turnovers. The lions were clearly under instruction not try anything in the tests.
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@sidbarret said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@mikethesnow it's funny how a narrative develops over the course of a tour.
I feel the Lions completely lost their bottle after Sharks II and the SA A game after they conceded four tries from turnovers. The lions were clearly under instruction not try anything in the tests.
Indeed
Very disappointing
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@mikethesnow said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
We have the personnel & ability to play like France - grit and guile - which I think is the answer, but does Warren have the appetite to go away from his bread & butter?
As I've said, the Lions need to attack and have the players to do it. Price has to start at 9 to ignite the backline.
As we saw with his stint at the Chiefs, I'm not optimistic
But I don't agree with this. The problem at the Chiefs was that they tried to play too much rugby in their own half and were not pragmatic enough. So the exact opposite of where the Lions are at.
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@bovidae said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@mikethesnow said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
We have the personnel & ability to play like France - grit and guile - which I think is the answer, but does Warren have the appetite to go away from his bread & butter?
As I've said, the Lions need to attack and have the players to do it. Price has to start at 9 to ignite the backline.
Unfortunately that's like saying we can use this blowtorch to ignite this mount of damp sand.
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3 changes we need to make for a more expansive game:
9 - Price - he's not pulling up trees, but he's Got quicker service than Murray and our best option
14 - Adams - VDM offers nothing except chasing kicks, and that's going to win us the match
8 - Faletau - Conan's been ok, hasn't done much wrong, but he's not going to give you any more. Faletau can actually play a bit, hit the channels, offload, great brain and big match experience
Problem is that there's no creative options in 10*-12-13 (well, that and being smashed up front, but I've no idea what to do about that). But at the least we need to change the game plan and be a bit more thoughtful about when to kick it away.
*well there are at 10, but Smith would be a huge gamble, and Russell would be a huge disaster.
Also Williams in for Hogg is a no brainer. Not because Williams is a more creative player, just because anyone who can catch a ball is by default more creative than a bloke who spills it every time.
LRZ would be fun too, but like Smith probably too much of a risk given his inexperience.
