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Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield)

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    Otago (deservedly) punished for not making the scoreboard reflect their possession dominance in the first half

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      Passes shouldn't be ruled forward if they 'drift' forward

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        Good reward for Lowe's good game tonight.

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          Lowe deserved that, he's played bloody well although mostly defensively until then.

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            Sweet, part one of the double feature was successful, come on the ABs.

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              Was Lowe originally a centre? He looks like a midfielder.

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                Was Lowe originally a centre? He looks like a midfielder.

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                @tim Yes. Spot on.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  Sweet, part one of the double feature was successful, come on the ABs.

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                  @nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                  Sweet, part one of the double feature was successful, come on the ABs.

                  triple feature. Curtain raiser as well. 80-6 to the Tui's

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                    @nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                    Sweet, part one of the double feature was successful, come on the ABs.

                    triple feature. Curtain raiser as well. 80-6 to the Tui's

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                    @stockcar86 said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                    @nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                    Sweet, part one of the double feature was successful, come on the ABs.

                    triple feature. Curtain raiser as well. 80-6 to the Tui's

                    The triple feature was actually Hasting Boys for me … well the short before the main features.

                    Good win to the Tui though.

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                      We’ll shit

                      Had to go get some beers so only just finished

                      Colonial xpa by the way , nice

                      Injuries and playing people in new positions and we wonder why the back line does almost nothing from set price, all out breaks were from open play

                      I get so sick of hearing sio listed as this huge attacking threat by commentators…did nothing good…never has, only looks good when you have someone like Aaron smith firing balls into gaps for him, every set piece back line move died at 1

                      I actually like a lot of our team…but faddes is wasted on the wing and sio can’t create anything for the guys outside him, hell swap them and something might change

                      HB with a huge effort sucking up all that pressure in the first half…and leading at the break…and then just launching again

                      To make as many effectively try saving tackles in the first half (maybe 4?) and turn it around to a comfortable win takes some ticker, proud to have been born in the bay 😉

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        Where is Walker-Leawere for this match? Is he injured?

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                        @canes4life said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                        Where is Walker-Leawere for this match? Is he injured?

                        Didn't see him at the ground, or at least he was not amongst the hangers on during the warm ups.

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                          Also, was it me or did enari (HB 9) have a really good game, fast ball all night

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            Is there fake crowd noise? Sounds like Eden park when the bay make a break

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                            @kiwiwomble said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                            Is there fake crowd noise? Sounds like Eden park when the bay make a break

                            Possibly, it was rather subdued where I was sitting on the Bank, aside from a group carrying on supporting chants in favour of the Magpies. There was very little vocal encouragement coming from the grandstands. I tried to instil a bit of encouragement but drew a scowl and an finger waving from one the the uniformed police officers that probably jammied their way in for free. Any further vocal support from me was slightly less salty in language!

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              Also, was it me or did enari (HB 9) have a really good game, fast ball all night

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                              @kiwiwomble said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                              Also, was it me or did enari (HB 9) have a really good game, fast ball all night

                              Yeah I thought he played well, worked hard to get to rucks quickly, and only learnt 90 seconds before kick off that he'd have to play the full 80.

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                                @kiwiwomble said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                Also, was it me or did enari (HB 9) have a really good game, fast ball all night

                                Yeah I thought he played well, worked hard to get to rucks quickly, and only learnt 90 seconds before kick off that he'd have to play the full 80.

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                                @delicatessen I saw Connor McLeod being helped by the physio back into the changing rooms as the team went back inside to complete whatever they do about 7 minutes prior to kick off. I can only summise that you must declare your matchday 23 to the referee and opposition maybe half an hour before kick off and any injuries etc after that time it is just bad luck and there is no provision for any late additions. Guess that must be to even things up for visiting teams who obviously would not have access to a third halfback for example that late in the game.

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                                  @delicatessen I saw Connor McLeod being helped by the physio back into the changing rooms as the team went back inside to complete whatever they do about 7 minutes prior to kick off. I can only summise that you must declare your matchday 23 to the referee and opposition maybe half an hour before kick off and any injuries etc after that time it is just bad luck and there is no provision for any late additions. Guess that must be to even things up for visiting teams who obviously would not have access to a third halfback for example that late in the game.

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                                  @higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                  @delicatessen I saw Connor McLeod being helped by the physio back into the changing rooms as the team went back inside to complete whatever they do about 7 minutes prior to kick off. I can only summise that you must declare your matchday 23 to the referee and opposition maybe half an hour before kick off and any injuries etc after that time it is just bad luck and there is no provision for any late additions. Guess that must be to even things up for visiting teams who obviously would not have access to a third halfback for example that late in the game.

                                  I think they said Kienan Higgins came on to the bench to replace him, which was why he wasn't wearing a number, so I assume the Magpies didn't have a halfback on hand.

                                  *Any relation?

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                    @delicatessen I saw Connor McLeod being helped by the physio back into the changing rooms as the team went back inside to complete whatever they do about 7 minutes prior to kick off. I can only summise that you must declare your matchday 23 to the referee and opposition maybe half an hour before kick off and any injuries etc after that time it is just bad luck and there is no provision for any late additions. Guess that must be to even things up for visiting teams who obviously would not have access to a third halfback for example that late in the game.

                                    I think they said Kienan Higgins came on to the bench to replace him, which was why he wasn't wearing a number, so I assume the Magpies didn't have a halfback on hand.

                                    *Any relation?

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                                    @nepia No All my grandparents (and father) are from the UK and Ireland and we have very few relations in NZ. Having said that Higgins is simply a moniker I got lumbered with by the guys at Napier Tech about 40 years ago and carries no connection to my real name, other than it's obvious Irish origin!

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                                      @nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                      @higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                      @delicatessen I saw Connor McLeod being helped by the physio back into the changing rooms as the team went back inside to complete whatever they do about 7 minutes prior to kick off. I can only summise that you must declare your matchday 23 to the referee and opposition maybe half an hour before kick off and any injuries etc after that time it is just bad luck and there is no provision for any late additions. Guess that must be to even things up for visiting teams who obviously would not have access to a third halfback for example that late in the game.

                                      I think they said Kienan Higgins came on to the bench to replace him, which was why he wasn't wearing a number, so I assume the Magpies didn't have a halfback on hand.

                                      *Any relation?

                                      Yep that's right. They were talking about Higgins only being told 90 seconds beforehand, so I'm presuming that's when Enari discovered he was the only halfback as well.

                                      Which would make sense given our other two are unavailable (fakatava injured, weber doing his press internship with the ABs - https://www.allblacks.com/videos/exclusive-in-the-sheds-with-brad-weber-bledisloe-cup-two/).

                                      Any ideas who they'll bring in next if Mcleod isn't a quick fix?

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                                        @nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                        @higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                        @delicatessen I saw Connor McLeod being helped by the physio back into the changing rooms as the team went back inside to complete whatever they do about 7 minutes prior to kick off. I can only summise that you must declare your matchday 23 to the referee and opposition maybe half an hour before kick off and any injuries etc after that time it is just bad luck and there is no provision for any late additions. Guess that must be to even things up for visiting teams who obviously would not have access to a third halfback for example that late in the game.

                                        I think they said Kienan Higgins came on to the bench to replace him, which was why he wasn't wearing a number, so I assume the Magpies didn't have a halfback on hand.

                                        *Any relation?

                                        Yep that's right. They were talking about Higgins only being told 90 seconds beforehand, so I'm presuming that's when Enari discovered he was the only halfback as well.

                                        Which would make sense given our other two are unavailable (fakatava injured, weber doing his press internship with the ABs - https://www.allblacks.com/videos/exclusive-in-the-sheds-with-brad-weber-bledisloe-cup-two/).

                                        Any ideas who they'll bring in next if Mcleod isn't a quick fix?

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                                        @delicatessen said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                        @nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                        @higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                        @delicatessen I saw Connor McLeod being helped by the physio back into the changing rooms as the team went back inside to complete whatever they do about 7 minutes prior to kick off. I can only summise that you must declare your matchday 23 to the referee and opposition maybe half an hour before kick off and any injuries etc after that time it is just bad luck and there is no provision for any late additions. Guess that must be to even things up for visiting teams who obviously would not have access to a third halfback for example that late in the game.

                                        I think they said Kienan Higgins came on to the bench to replace him, which was why he wasn't wearing a number, so I assume the Magpies didn't have a halfback on hand.

                                        *Any relation?

                                        Yep that's right. They were talking about Higgins only being told 90 seconds beforehand, so I'm presuming that's when Enari discovered he was the only halfback as well.

                                        Which would make sense given our other two are unavailable (fakatava injured, weber doing his press internship with the ABs - https://www.allblacks.com/videos/exclusive-in-the-sheds-with-brad-weber-bledisloe-cup-two/).

                                        Any ideas who they'll bring in next if Mcleod isn't a quick fix?

                                        No idea, some of the guys more familiar with the club scene ( @Number-10 @Stargazer ) will have a better idea.

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                                        • Number 10N Number 10

                                          Ash Dixon is a late withdrawal.

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                                          @number-10 said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                          Ash Dixon is a late withdrawal.

                                          One newspaper article says illness, the other says injury. Hopefully, he was just out for this game, and will be back next weekend, because we play Canterbury away.

                                          Anyway, because Kereru-Symes was injured too, our third choice hooker Devery was starting and I thought he did a great job. The reserve hooker (Symington) would normally have played for our development team in the afternoon game against Poverty Bay.


                                          @canes4life said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                          Where is Walker-Leawere for this match? Is he injured?

                                          Shoulder injury sufferend in the club rugby semi-final between his club Clive and Hastings R&S on 10 July. Officially (in the media), he has been ruled out for the season, but as said earlier, they may be hoping for an early return.


                                          @kiwimurph said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                          Enari much better this week.

                                          Agreed. He showed this week what I hoped to see. It will be interesting to see how he goes against his old team, next weekend, playing against Drummond instead of being stuck behind him.


                                          @nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                          Sheesh, Higgins looks a bit slow for midfielder.

                                          He hasn't convinced me yet, but he's not really slow going by what I've seen in the Shield defences against Heartland teams. Still very, very green.


                                          @taniwharugby said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                          Lowe deserved that, he's played bloody well although mostly defensively until then.

                                          Every time he has a great game like that, I think how stupid the Canes have been by not giving him enough game time. Admittedly, he's had injuries, but they had plenty of opportunities to select him and didn't. Several years of his career wasted in the stands. Glad the Chiefs picked him up and I really hope they've re-signed him (I don't trust Gatland).


                                          @stockcar86 said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                          @nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                          Sweet, part one of the double feature was successful, come on the ABs.

                                          triple feature. Curtain raiser as well. 80-6 to the Tui's

                                          Quadruple for me. The Tui had a very good game, but it was against the weakest team in the FPC. They just smashed them better than the rest. Got 3 out of 4, yesterday. If Hastings Boys' can pick themselves up after this loss (and I think Karl Lowe and Sona Taumalolo will make sure that happens), they should play in the Top 4 anyway, because they should beat any Wellington school they'll face in the Hurricanes semi-final and - most likely - Napier Boys' in the Final.


                                          @delicatessen said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                          @nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                          @higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Otago (Ranfurly Shield):

                                          @delicatessen I saw Connor McLeod being helped by the physio back into the changing rooms as the team went back inside to complete whatever they do about 7 minutes prior to kick off. I can only summise that you must declare your matchday 23 to the referee and opposition maybe half an hour before kick off and any injuries etc after that time it is just bad luck and there is no provision for any late additions. Guess that must be to even things up for visiting teams who obviously would not have access to a third halfback for example that late in the game.

                                          I think they said Kienan Higgins came on to the bench to replace him, which was why he wasn't wearing a number, so I assume the Magpies didn't have a halfback on hand.

                                          Correct, I heard that, too.

                                          Any ideas who they'll bring in next if Mcleod isn't a quick fix?

                                          The next in line is Zach Donaldson. He's been our back-up's back-up for a few years now. He was also the reserve halfback in the Ranfurly Shield game against North Otago. Not a player you want to start a game with.

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