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Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour

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  • P pakman

    https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1453754278766465025/photo/1

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    @pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

    https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1453754278766465025/photo/1

    BB was always going to start with this being his 100th, so not surprised.
    Great to see Blackadder start at 6; not so great seeing TJP start, but maybe that's because of preferred combos? TJP-BB and Weber-RM?

    I'd probably have picked Reece over Jordan, but they picked the right set of wingers.

    Is Ofa injured?

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      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1453754278766465025?t=EStmUpFnsc0i9X2GuJMJ5g&s=19

      Happy in the main with that team. Hats off for BB for making 100 tests.

      Disappointing that we are not starting Akira. We need to trust the power. I continue to be disappointed that we are not selecting younger Half Backs ahead of TJP.

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        Wales are going to target TJP and his shaky clearance work and then some.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          Wales are going to target TJP and his shaky clearance work and then some.

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          they really love Ardie at 8.
          But no Bridge? Slowpoke Rieko? Are they freaking insane?! The power, the pace, the playmaking..

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            they really love Ardie at 8.
            But no Bridge? Slowpoke Rieko? Are they freaking insane?! The power, the pace, the playmaking..

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            @nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

            they really love Ardie at 8.
            But no Bridge? Slowpoke Rieko? Are they freaking insane?! The power, the place, the playmaking..

            Dry powder.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1453754278766465025?t=EStmUpFnsc0i9X2GuJMJ5g&s=19

              Happy in the main with that team. Hats off for BB for making 100 tests.

              Disappointing that we are not starting Akira. We need to trust the power. I continue to be disappointed that we are not selecting younger Half Backs ahead of TJP.

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              @sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1453754278766465025?t=EStmUpFnsc0i9X2GuJMJ5g&s=19

              Happy in the main with that team. Hats off for BB for making 100 tests.

              Disappointing that we are not starting Akira. We need to trust the power. I continue to be disappointed that we are not selecting younger Half Backs ahead of TJP.

              I agree with TJ, hopefully he either clicks, or is last chance saloon. Disagree about Blackadder, Ioane was exposed badly versus boks. He maybe a horse's for courses player, or someone who is better off the bench. Still this probsbly isn't top team, they'll leave that until Ireland or maybe even just France, still rotating and defining imo.

              I wonder if samisoni is moving up the pecking order

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                Yeah pretty happy with that side eh. Quite interested to see what Aoane brings off the bench and how they use him. The starting trio is going to bring an absurd level of workrate.

                Would prefer Reece to start, but I have a feeling this game might suit Jordan, no idea why... just please stop the awful errors.

                That forward bench looks good, feel they can all be finishers.

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                  @sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                  https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1453754278766465025?t=EStmUpFnsc0i9X2GuJMJ5g&s=19

                  Happy in the main with that team. Hats off for BB for making 100 tests.

                  Disappointing that we are not starting Akira. We need to trust the power. I continue to be disappointed that we are not selecting younger Half Backs ahead of TJP.

                  I agree with TJ, hopefully he either clicks, or is last chance saloon. Disagree about Blackadder, Ioane was exposed badly versus boks. He maybe a horse's for courses player, or someone who is better off the bench. Still this probsbly isn't top team, they'll leave that until Ireland or maybe even just France, still rotating and defining imo.

                  I wonder if samisoni is moving up the pecking order

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                  @machpants I'm a big fan of Akira Ioane. I think he has been our best player this year as a whole and has the potential to be world-beating come the 2023 RWC World Cup.

                  You are right, he was less effective againat the Boks but slight fluctuations in form happen. What there is no denying is his raw power.

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                    Yeah pretty happy with that side eh. Quite interested to see what Aoane brings off the bench and how they use him. The starting trio is going to bring an absurd level of workrate.

                    Would prefer Reece to start, but I have a feeling this game might suit Jordan, no idea why... just please stop the awful errors.

                    That forward bench looks good, feel they can all be finishers.

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                    @bones said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                    Would prefer Reece to start, but I have a feeling this game might suit Jordan, no idea why... just please stop the awful errors.

                    Jordan needs to sort out his defensive issues before he can be considered for the RWC knockouts. But for a high-scoring game, under the roof in Cardiff with Rees-Zammitt out for them, Jordan the Gasman is the man.

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                      The roof is open

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        @machpants I'm a big fan of Akira Ioane. I think he has been our best player this year as a whole and has the potential to be world-beating come the 2023 RWC World Cup.

                        You are right, he was less effective againat the Boks but slight fluctuations in form happen. What there is no denying is his raw power.

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                        @sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                        @machpants I'm a big fan of Akira Ioane. I think he has been our best player this year as a whole and has the potential to be world-beating come the 2023 RWC World Cup.

                        You are right, he was less effective againat the Boks but slight fluctuations in form happen. What there is no denying is his raw power.

                        Sure he's been great, but he's really got points to prove after boks. He needs to apply that power versus big packs, same as the entire ABs team really!

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                          The roof is open

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                          @berniescorner said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                          The roof is open

                          Confirmed or just the rumour it is open for covid?

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                            Think having RMo come off bench will be interesting, I see him as someone who will cut loose against a tiring defence, a little like DMac, he does tend to run crossfield at times looking for holes etc. Can't say I too upset with team, perhaps would like to see TJ get his passing act together a bit more than he has, but nothing to scream about.

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                              @machpants I'm a big fan of Akira Ioane. I think he has been our best player this year as a whole and has the potential to be world-beating come the 2023 RWC World Cup.

                              You are right, he was less effective againat the Boks but slight fluctuations in form happen. What there is no denying is his raw power.

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                              @sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                              @machpants I'm a big fan of Akira Ioane. I think he has been our best player this year as a whole and has the potential to be world-beating come the 2023 RWC World Cup.

                              You are right, he was less effective againat the Boks but slight fluctuations in form happen. What there is no denying is his raw power.

                              Only thing I can think is that he either has a niggle or has flatlined on his numbers.

                              The loose mix while not bad at all is a bit odd given the stated desire for adding power to that area. A relatively lightweight 6, an 8 that gets metres from fighting his way forward rather than sheer dominance and a 7 whose form seems to have dulled a little.
                              Is this just part of the management of players toward the last two tests?

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                              • Dan54D Dan54

                                Think having RMo come off bench will be interesting, I see him as someone who will cut loose against a tiring defence, a little like DMac, he does tend to run crossfield at times looking for holes etc. Can't say I too upset with team, perhaps would like to see TJ get his passing act together a bit more than he has, but nothing to scream about.

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                                @dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                Think having RMo come off bench will be interesting, I see him as someone who will cut loose against a tiring defence, a little like DMac, he does tend to run crossfield at times looking for holes etc. Can't say I too upset with team, perhaps would like to see TJ get his passing act together a bit more than he has, but nothing to scream about.

                                He will look better running off Weber's distribution than TJ's

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                                • sparkyS sparky

                                  @machpants I'm a big fan of Akira Ioane. I think he has been our best player this year as a whole and has the potential to be world-beating come the 2023 RWC World Cup.

                                  You are right, he was less effective againat the Boks but slight fluctuations in form happen. What there is no denying is his raw power.

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                                  @sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                  @machpants I'm a big fan of Akira Ioane. I think he has been our best player this year as a whole and has the potential to be world-beating come the 2023 RWC World Cup.

                                  You are right, he was less effective againat the Boks but slight fluctuations in form happen. What there is no denying is his raw power.

                                  I thought maybe it was just starting to happen just before the Boks , just looked like his intensity levels were starting to drop a tad ,

                                  But credit where it was due , he did set some high standards prior to that and was a bit of a revelation ,

                                  The competition for loose forward spots is an interesting one as we move forward , creating some real depth there

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                                    How many chances does TJP get, it's ridiculous.

                                    Would have liked to have seen them give Quinn Tupaea a go at 12 against a good midfield. The rest of the team I'm happy with.

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                                      @bones said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                      Would prefer Reece to start, but I have a feeling this game might suit Jordan, no idea why... just please stop the awful errors.

                                      Jordan needs to sort out his defensive issues before he can be considered for the RWC knockouts. But for a high-scoring game, under the roof in Cardiff with Rees-Zammitt out for them, Jordan the Gasman is the man.

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                                      @sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                      @bones said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                      Would prefer Reece to start, but I have a feeling this game might suit Jordan, no idea why... just please stop the awful errors.

                                      Jordan needs to sort out his defensive issues before he can be considered for the RWC knockouts. But for a high-scoring game, under the roof in Cardiff with Rees-Zammitt out for them, Jordan the Gasman is the man.

                                      I'm not as concerned about his defence as I am about his high error rate, many of the kind that would see Jordie/DMac/Rieko effigies being burned in the street.

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                                        I thought that Lomax was one of the least impressive players in DC. If Ofa is also injured there wasn't any other option for the reserve TH.

                                        Come on TJP, prove us wrong!!

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @machpants I'm a big fan of Akira Ioane. I think he has been our best player this year as a whole and has the potential to be world-beating come the 2023 RWC World Cup.

                                          You are right, he was less effective againat the Boks but slight fluctuations in form happen. What there is no denying is his raw power.

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                                          @sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                          @machpants I'm a big fan of Akira Ioane. I think he has been our best player this year as a whole and has the potential to be world-beating come the 2023 RWC World Cup.

                                          You are right, he was less effective againat the Boks but slight fluctuations in form happen. What there is no denying is his raw power.

                                          Been really impressed at how he's matured in the last year and hope he can kick on and fulfil his potential. It's one selection Foster has got right but he looked a bit flat against the Boks for some reason, IMHO, so perhaps needed a break?

                                          There's a heck of a lot of depth and competition at 6/7/8 but I think Akira probably best placed to nail down the 6 jersey.

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