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Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    A few 'minor' surprises in there, but the big one for me is TJ, guess it's time for him to step up and repay the faith the coaches are putting in him.

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    @taniwharugby said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

    A few 'minor' surprises in there, but the big one for me is TJ, guess it's time for him to step up and repay the faith the coaches are putting in him.

    Could well be his last chance. He's used to playing with BB and vice versa so I guess there's really no excuse if things go pear-shaped at 9/10.

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      @crucial QT is not on the bench though .

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      @akan004 said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

      @crucial QT is not on the bench though .

      Fuck. Have no idea where I got that from. Maybe it was a residual dream. I could swear I saw his name in the 23 and was pleased to see it there.

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        baring TJ at 9 and savea at 8 this would be close to me best 15 so pretty happy

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          Congrats to Beauden Barrett.

          Man he’s provided some highlights over his AB career. Is he a 10, is he a 15, who cares really, I’ve just enjoyed watching him out on the park and play with a pace and enjoyment that we haven’t really seen before. He’s been pretty durable too for a guy that is pretty slight in size and that plays with a fearlessness in defence.

          Hopefully he and the team can make it a memorable one.

          By the way are we doing the haka in the change rooms 😉

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            Congrats to Beauden Barrett.

            Man he’s provided some highlights over his AB career. Is he a 10, is he a 15, who cares really, I’ve just enjoyed watching him out on the park and play with a pace and enjoyment that we haven’t really seen before. He’s been pretty durable too for a guy that is pretty slight in size and that plays with a fearlessness in defence.

            Hopefully he and the team can make it a memorable one.

            By the way are we doing the haka in the change rooms 😉

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            @act-crusader said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:.

            By the way are we doing the haka in the change rooms 😉

            Yeah Covid protocols, no singing 😉

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              Congrats to Beauden Barrett.

              Man he’s provided some highlights over his AB career. Is he a 10, is he a 15, who cares really, I’ve just enjoyed watching him out on the park and play with a pace and enjoyment that we haven’t really seen before. He’s been pretty durable too for a guy that is pretty slight in size and that plays with a fearlessness in defence.

              Hopefully he and the team can make it a memorable one.

              By the way are we doing the haka in the change rooms 😉

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              @act-crusader wasnt it v Wales that was a kinda coming of age game for him when he was still 2nd fiddle to Cruden (I think)

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                I don't have many issues with that team, would prefer Reece wasn't there, but glad he's only on the bench.

                It will be interesting to see if Akira can operate as an impact player coming on, because I don't think he's done it very often.

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                  Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".

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                    @antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                    Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".

                    Oh fuck, I missed that TJP was starting. Um, I'd like to change my calm post above to one of hysterics and fear please.

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".

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                      @antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                      Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".

                      Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.

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                        Happy with Beauden starting and Mo'unga on the bench, but they need to give Mo'unga at least 20 minutes to make an impact. He's lethal in open play, but needs some time to get the opportunities to exploit.

                        Samisoni and Akira could also provide a real point of difference at the end of the game as well.

                        @antipodean I think you are right, they are hoping TJP will play a more settled game starting rather than trying to come on from the bench and try to make things happen to have an "impact". Also Weber coming on in the final 20 to speed the game up at that point could work well.

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                        • P pakman

                          @antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                          Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".

                          Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.

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                          @pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                          @antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                          Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".

                          Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.

                          BB knows to be ready for a catch somewhere between ankles and overhead. RM expects the ball from knees to face.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                            @antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                            Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".

                            Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.

                            BB knows to be ready for a catch somewhere between ankles and overhead. RM expects the ball from knees to face.

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                            @crucial said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                            @pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                            @antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                            Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".

                            Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.

                            BB knows to be ready for a catch somewhere between ankles and overhead. RM expects the ball from knees to face.

                            RM plays with Bryn Hall often so not sure if that statement rings that true.

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                              Don't mind this starting lineup minus TJP.

                              Front row will hopefully show up a little, Laualala in particular needs a big game.

                              I like the midfield pairing, though I think things are heating up in the 12 race between Havili and Tupaea so I'm a little gutted to not see Tupaea at least on the bench.

                              Crazy to think the Beauden is playing his 100th.

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                                @act-crusader said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                Man he’s provided some highlights over his AB career. Is he a 10, is he a 15, who cares really, I’ve just enjoyed watching him out on the park

                                a fantastic rugby player. Pace, good vision for a half opportunity, and a willingness to chance his arm.

                                His highlight reel would be pretty fucking sweet.

                                100 for the ABs is really quite something considering how hard we have been on selection.

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                                • sparkyS sparky

                                  https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1453754278766465025?t=EStmUpFnsc0i9X2GuJMJ5g&s=19

                                  Happy in the main with that team. Hats off for BB for making 100 tests.

                                  Disappointing that we are not starting Akira. We need to trust the power. I continue to be disappointed that we are not selecting younger Half Backs ahead of TJP.

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                                  @sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                  https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1453754278766465025?t=EStmUpFnsc0i9X2GuJMJ5g&s=19

                                  Happy in the main with that team. Hats off for BB for making 100 tests.

                                  Disappointing that we are not starting Akira. We need to trust the power. I continue to be disappointed that we are not selecting younger Half Backs ahead of TJP.

                                  Akira's stock went down a bit vs Blackadder's against the Boks.
                                  Foster is rewarding performance and rightly so.
                                  Still hoping can go beast mode against very physical teams.
                                  Glad to see Whitelock back. I felt we missed his maturity.

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                                  • P pakman

                                    @antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                    Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".

                                    Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.

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                                    @pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                    Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.

                                    As long as Beauden does more when he gets the ball from TJP than just passing to a static Havili.

                                    An open roof and the expected rain will mean more kicking from both TJP and BB.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                      Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.

                                      As long as Beauden does more when he gets the ball from TJP than just passing to a static Havili.

                                      An open roof and the expected rain will mean more kicking from both TJP and BB.

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                                      @bovidae said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                      @pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                      Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.

                                      As long as Beauden does more when he gets the ball from TJP than just passing to a static Havili.

                                      Hopefully Havili has been practising timing his runs...

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                                        my only real quibble is with the loose trio. All pretty handy footballers, but we've picked the same guy 3 times. For all the talk of developing "power" we are still all-in on "workrate" it seems

                                        Ardie Savea is the most kissed-on-the-dick player in NZ. Very handy 7 if a bit light in the tackle. Ordinary 8. I give far less care to the "post contact metres" as they very rarely result in quick ball.

                                        Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          my only real quibble is with the loose trio. All pretty handy footballers, but we've picked the same guy 3 times. For all the talk of developing "power" we are still all-in on "workrate" it seems

                                          Ardie Savea is the most kissed-on-the-dick player in NZ. Very handy 7 if a bit light in the tackle. Ordinary 8. I give far less care to the "post contact metres" as they very rarely result in quick ball.

                                          Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.

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                                          @mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:

                                          Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.

                                          Yeah, we have a lot of midfielders who are good at Super Rugby level, but are mediocre athletes at test level. Would be good to see Lienert-Brown develop the ability to be able to take at least one outside break per season.

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